# Which of these medical cloning techniques would you be comfortable allowing?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 28, 2012, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-these-medical-cloning-techniques-would-you-be-comfortable-allowing/636167 "2012-09-28T18:27:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![Szlater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Szlater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Szlater)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-these-medical-cloning-techniques-would-you-be-comfortable-allowing/636167/61 "2012-10-04T18:06:04Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> I would rather eat brainless pigs. In fact, I’ve been pulling for Vat Meat for a while now.

So would I. I would like there to be a whole farmyard of brainless animals for us to feast upon. I wonder if vat grown meat, offal and skin would be less environmentally damaging than having the animals (brainy or otherwise) intact?

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2012, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-these-medical-cloning-techniques-would-you-be-comfortable-allowing/636167/62 "2012-10-07T18:11:28Z")

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> [@Szlater](#):
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> It’s more than that, they never had any wishes, and never had the ability to have any wishes. They aren’t, and have never been sentient. Infact, I would say that they have less standing with regards their ethical treatment than a pig, and we’re happy to slaughter those for all sorts of reasons (including fun, if you’re a hunter).
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> Happily eating meat, but then rejecting the use of brainless clones in medical care seems to me to be purely speciesism, unless you can demonstrate that there is something inherently special about a brainless clone that a brainy pig doesn’t possess.
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> The burden of proof lies with those who would grant special status to brainless clones.

I am actually an unapologetic speciesist. Humanity is my team. Forced to choose between a human life and a non-human animal’s life, I will almost always choose the human.

Having said that, I have a similar concern to **rachellogram** on the issue. I’d allow the brainless clone option, but I worry that the tech would be abused in infelicitous and disturbing ways.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2012, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-these-medical-cloning-techniques-would-you-be-comfortable-allowing/636167/63 "2012-10-07T18:29:19Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> …I worry that the tech would be abused in \*infelicitous \*and disturbing ways.

Thank you for that new and nommy word! I shall add it to my collection of favorites henceforth.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2012, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-these-medical-cloning-techniques-would-you-be-comfortable-allowing/636167/64 "2012-10-07T18:47:25Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> Thank you for that new and nommy word! I shall add it to my collection of favorites henceforth.

I was going to give you Brainiac Five’s force-shield belt and flight ring for your birthday (he doesn’t need them right now, as I have his head), but since you like words, here’s _gey_, _isogenous, psychagogic,_ and _solleret_.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2012, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-these-medical-cloning-techniques-would-you-be-comfortable-allowing/636167/65 "2012-10-07T19:00:51Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> I was going to give you Brainiac Five’s force-shield belt and flight ring for your birthday (he doesn’t need them right now, as I have his head), but since you like words, here’s _gey_, _isogenous, psychagogic,_ and _solleret_.

Hmmm. I hope you got a gift receipt, 'cause \*gey \*doesn’t go with my language, and \*isogenous \*is just ugly. \*Psychagogic \*I quite like though, and I’m pretty sure I have a SCAdian friend I can regift \*solleret \*to…thanks!

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2012, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-these-medical-cloning-techniques-would-you-be-comfortable-allowing/636167/66 "2012-10-07T19:04:30Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> Hmmm. I hope you got a gift receipt, 'cause \*gey \*doesn’t go with my language, and \*isogenous \*is just ugly. \*Psychagogic \*I quite like though, and I’m pretty sure I have a SCAdian friend I can regift \*solleret \*to…thanks!

_Gey_ is a wonderful word, dearest; it’s Scots for “very.” As for _isogenous_, it’s a marvelous word, and were you not on the Short List I would have to do something cruel to you for your insolence. As it as you’ve forced me to drop one of the Nancy Grace clones into the ratel pit.

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