# Which of today's musical groups will still be around in 20 years? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [August 1, 2001, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-todays-musical-groups-will-still-be-around-in-20-years/74504 "2001-08-01T18:10:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Albert\_Rose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@Albert\_Rose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Albert_Rose)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2001, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-todays-musical-groups-will-still-be-around-in-20-years/74504/21 "2001-08-03T02:00:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by TheLoadedDog \* > \*\* > The Rolling Stones. 😃 \*\* They’ll probably look exactly the same, too. ---
**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2001, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-todays-musical-groups-will-still-be-around-in-20-years/74504/22 "2001-08-03T02:14:16Z")
When I saw the topic for this thread, the first thing to come to mind was **Radiohead**. The second was **The Spice Girls** , but that was suggested by my evil self and accompanied by peals of laughter. I will go out on a limb, and nominate three that so many that already nominated before me: **Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Metallica**. Once, I would have added **Guns N’ Roses** to the list, but not any more. ---
**Author:** ![poohpah\_chalupa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/91b2a8/32.png) [@poohpah\_chalupa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/poohpah_chalupa)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2001, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-todays-musical-groups-will-still-be-around-in-20-years/74504/23 "2001-08-03T02:40:44Z")
BoyzIIGeezerz ---
**Author:** ![teppei](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/58956e/32.png) [@teppei](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teppei)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2001, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-todays-musical-groups-will-still-be-around-in-20-years/74504/24 "2001-08-03T02:44:03Z")
Tori Amos -provided she doesn’t produce another album like her last one, which I only thought was decent [yes, I know, a tori album that’s merely ‘decent’? blasphemous!] everyone else was already spoken for, unless attempt-at-a-comeback albums count; if tehy do, I’m thinking a good many of the teeny-bopper bands will be on the list as well. ---
**Author:** ![darian00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@darian00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/darian00)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2001, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-todays-musical-groups-will-still-be-around-in-20-years/74504/25 "2001-08-03T07:05:40Z")
[QUOTE] \*Originally posted by Qwertyasdfg \* \*\* > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by TheLoadedDog \* > I disagree about Metallica. They’ve already been around quite a while already, and are really showing their age. My prediction is that they’ll last only a few years more. \*\* How ya figger? A band of Metallica’s influence doesn’t easily die. I think they’ll be around for a while yet, provided they ever find a new bass player. I think Korn will be too, seeing that they spawned a new genre of hardcore. Maybe not 20 years, but at least ten. And personally, I hope the Stones have faded into obscurity _loooooooooong_ before then. :rolleyes: I second Nirvana being played regularly into the future, but I wish Pearl Jam would be instantly wiped from humanity’s collective mind and all their albums would be burned as mindless drivel. Well, all their albums after _Vs._ ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2001, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-todays-musical-groups-will-still-be-around-in-20-years/74504/26 "2001-08-03T08:06:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by AlbertRose \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by TheLoadedDog \* > > \*\* > > The Rolling Stones. 😃 \*\* > > They’ll probably look exactly the same, too. \*\* All except for the travelling IV stand rolling back and forth across the stage in the wake of a mummified Keith Richards. (Constant resupply of blood, get it?) ---
**Author:** ![BobSchroeck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/13edae/32.png) [@BobSchroeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobSchroeck)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2001, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-todays-musical-groups-will-still-be-around-in-20-years/74504/27 "2001-08-03T12:33:21Z")
I may be way off in left field on this, but I think **Bare Naked Ladies** ’ current stuff will certainly survive to be “classic” in 20 to 30 years, and the band themselves will probably be going strong, too… – Bob ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Dead\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecb155/32.png) [@Living\_Dead\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Dead_Girl)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2001, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-todays-musical-groups-will-still-be-around-in-20-years/74504/28 "2001-08-03T13:09:11Z")
Has no-one mentioned **Tool** yet? I think they’ll definitely survive - they’ve been around for quite a while now, and are releasing better and better material all the time. Radiohead should still around be around, too. ---
**Author:** ![Flymaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c4cdca/32.png) [@Flymaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flymaster)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2001, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-todays-musical-groups-will-still-be-around-in-20-years/74504/29 "2001-08-03T13:43:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Doghouse Reilly \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by AlbertRose \* > > \*\*They’ll probably look exactly the same, too. \*\* > > All except for the travelling IV stand rolling back and forth across the stage in the wake of a mummified Keith Richards. (Constant resupply of blood, get it?) \*\* So you agree…they’ll still look the same? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2001, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-todays-musical-groups-will-still-be-around-in-20-years/74504/30 "2001-08-03T13:55:25Z")
Pearl Jam is mindless drivel? Them’s fightin’ words. 🙂 So I think we’ve got two groups here. Bands we’ll keep hearing - because their music keeps being played (Like Nirvana). And bands we’ll keep hearign **from** because they’ll still be cranking out tunes (Like Aerosmith). I dunno which the OP had in mind, though… Tool’s a good addition to the list. Lifehouse??!? they’ve released one song so far, right? How can we say for sure yet? I’ve never even heard of Train. I fear that perhaps 20 years from now, there will be “retro” stations playing the likes of Britney and NSYNC. ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2001, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-todays-musical-groups-will-still-be-around-in-20-years/74504/31 "2001-08-03T14:03:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gonzoron \* > **So I think we’ve got two groups here. Bands we’ll keep hearing - because their music keeps being played (Like Nirvana). And bands we’ll keep hearign from because they’ll still be cranking out tunes (Like Aerosmith). I dunno which the OP had in mind, though…** Whichever. ---
**Author:** ![gex\_gex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/94ad74/32.png) [@gex\_gex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gex_gex)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2001, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-todays-musical-groups-will-still-be-around-in-20-years/74504/32 "2001-08-03T14:16:38Z")
even though the op mentioned classic rock, i think that some musical developments in the past twenty or so years have changed music altogether and are now a part of pop now as rock is. **hip hop** -beastie boys - undeniably _the_ influence on mainstream hip hop… has allowed it to be accessable to a wide white audience without compromising the original ideals (such as artists like puff daddy have.) -dr dre. unfortunately -run dmc… even though they pretty much are classic now as far as producing successful modern music. -de la soul -eminem… i dunno… i’m still not sure about this. half of me says he’s already done enough to warrant being around for the next 20 years, yet i also think he’s just another flash in the pan freak show who won’t make it past his next album. \*\* **punk** -offspring, green day, blink 182 - the big ones. -rancid - as important as the clash was. -pennywise -nofx \*\* **electronica** - and i don’t pretend to be an expert. - daft punk - air \*\* also, i think **beck** will stick around, or will at leats be remembered, as will the **smashing pumpkins** and **ani di franco** , although ani will stick around in a critically acclaimed sense, rather than a commercially huge sense (think lou reed or janis joplin rather than rolling stones). and limp bizkit and korn will not be remembered… bands are remembered for doing something interesting and original, not just adding hip hop beats to jock riffs. boring… they’re declining already (korn is non-existent these days) after only 2 years or so in the spotlight… not a sticker. think about it… there aren’t that many limp songs you could imagine being played on the radio in 20 years time. maybe nookie and my generation, but that at most. same with train and matchbox 20… today’s spin doctors… remember them? you write nothing songs, nobody remembers you. then again, don mclean’s american pie is _still_ played today… ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2001, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-todays-musical-groups-will-still-be-around-in-20-years/74504/33 "2001-08-03T14:35:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \* > > I think Creed has a good chance of sticking around too. Just one more reason to pray for a quick and early death. WhatwhatWHAT? Nobody’s mentioned Rammstein? 😃 I think we’ll still be listening to Metallica, definitely, Whether they’re making new music or not. And as for Korn? I hope they disappear within six months…well, disappear or take a bath. Either one is fine. jarbaby ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2001, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-todays-musical-groups-will-still-be-around-in-20-years/74504/34 "2001-08-03T14:39:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \* > **And as for Korn? I hope they disappear within six months…well, disappear or take a bath. Either one is fine.** Either that or go back to the style they had on their first two albums. Those were awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Qwertyasdfg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ecc23a/32.png) [@Qwertyasdfg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qwertyasdfg)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2001, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-todays-musical-groups-will-still-be-around-in-20-years/74504/35 "2001-08-03T20:17:13Z")
[QUOTE] \*Originally posted by darian00 \* \*\* > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Qwertyasdfg \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by TheLoadedDog \* > > I disagree about Metallica. They’ve already been around quite a while already, and are really showing their age. My prediction is that they’ll last only a few years more. \*\* > > How ya figger? A band of Metallica’s influence doesn’t easily die. I think they’ll be around for a while yet, provided they ever find a new bass player. I think Korn will be too, seeing that they spawned a new genre of hardcore. Maybe not 20 years, but at least ten. And personally, I hope the Stones have faded into obscurity _loooooooooong_ before then. :rolleyes: I second Nirvana being played regularly into the future, but I wish Pearl Jam would be instantly wiped from humanity’s collective mind and all their albums would be burned as mindless drivel. Well, all their albums after _Vs._ \*\* Metallica’s wanton neglect for their fans will (_hopefully_) wipe them out. Personally I used to love them. But everything past the black album is crap, and this Napster shit really clenched my absolutly HATING them. I know I’m not the only one that feels this way. They’ve sold out, and there’s no going back. Maybe in twenty years they’ll be doing some kind of reunion tour, but I hope they get the same fate as when Diana Ross tried to have a reunion with artificial Supremes. (The shows were, empty.) I agree with you, on Pearl Jam, although I’d stretch their good music up to Vitalogy, rather than Vs. ---
**Author:** ![darian00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@darian00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/darian00)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2001, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-todays-musical-groups-will-still-be-around-in-20-years/74504/36 "2001-08-04T05:12:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Qwertyasdfg \* > Metallica’s wanton neglect for their fans will (_hopefully_) wipe them out. Personally I used to love them. But everything past the black album is crap, and this Napster shit really clenched my absolutly HATING them. I know I’m not the only one that feels this way. They’ve sold out, and there’s no going back. > [snip] > I agree with you, on Pearl Jam, although I’d stretch their good music up to Vitalogy, rather than Vs. \*\* See, I think Napster has polarized Metallica’s fans to a pretty high degree, but I still can’t get enough of them. I was actually behind Metallica on the Napster fiasco, because nobody asked Metallica for permission to post their songs. Despite the fact that their music is out in the public domain, that music is still Metallica’s intellectual property and as such, they can decide who has access to it and how it’s played. Napster should have just complied in the first place, or at least asked permission. But, hey, everyone’s entitled to their opinion. I do agree with you to a point as to their post-Black album career. One of the things that I loved about them was that they never did anything the same. I liked Load, and ReLoad was pretty good, but they shouldn’t have released Load just to avoid releasing a double CD. They definitely should have waited the extra year. I’ve liked what I’ve heard of Garage Inc, and S&M was a pretty good idea I thought. As for Pearl Jam, I listened to Vitalogy, and it just didn’t do anything for me. Better Man was good, and the only song on the album that had any kind of musical qualities to it. The rest of the album was mostly noise. And that bugs song just really creeped me out. See, if ANY band deserves to die for betraying their fans, it’s these guys. They swore to never tour again, fans be fuc\*ed. Then years later they decide they need more money to put out more crappy albums, and decide to release a crapload of live albums and go back on tour. WTF!? I hope there’s a circle of hell reserved for bad musicians where they have to go listen to their own crap for all eternity. **Ultrafilter** -I agree with you about Korn, and neglected to mention that in my previous post. That was what drew me to them, along with many of their fans I’m sure. Then they left it behind for some reason unbeknownst to us, and started disappearing from the scene. **gonzoron** -I dated a girl for two years who was fixated on Pearl Jam. Do your worst. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2001, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-todays-musical-groups-will-still-be-around-in-20-years/74504/37 "2001-08-04T05:28:02Z")
\*\* > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by TheLoadedDog \* > I disagree about Metallica. They’ve already been around quite a while already, and are really showing their age. My prediction is that they’ll last only a few years more. \*\* Some of my fellow Dopers have obviously offended the Gret Coding Gods. The above quote has been accredited to me in a couple of the above posts (as it is here). It was actually in **Qwertyasdfg** ’s post, not mine. Just so you know in which direction to heap your various praise and scorn… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2001, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-todays-musical-groups-will-still-be-around-in-20-years/74504/38 "2001-08-04T05:31:08Z")
…much as I have offended the Gre **a** t Spelling Gods. :o ---
**Author:** ![darian00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@darian00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/darian00)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2001, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-todays-musical-groups-will-still-be-around-in-20-years/74504/39 "2001-08-04T05:47:07Z")
[dropping huge shovel of steaming scorn] Damn. I was just about to start heaping mountains of steaming, stinky fresh scorn upon you, too. Hmph. [turns and walks away, head hung in sadness and abject misery] [turns around and starts flinging scorn at _TheLoadedDog_ at high velocity] May as well. I’ve got mountains of it here anyway. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_Rhosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@Sir\_Rhosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Rhosis)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2001, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-todays-musical-groups-will-still-be-around-in-20-years/74504/40 "2001-08-04T06:50:59Z")
In one sense of the word, I don’t think any band after about 1990 is gonna be around (or being played regularly) like say the music of the Beatles, Stones, the Who, Led Zeppelin, Blondie, Michael Jackson, Bruce Springsteen, etc., from the 60s, 70s and part of the 80s. My theory is this. In my day (I’m 37), we did not have the many choices that we have today. We either listened to AM or FM, bought the records or 8-tracks, and occasionally saw the groups on Saurday Night Live or Fridays or Night Flight, etc. In a sense of the word, my generation was somewhat homogenized as compared to today’s young teens and twenty-somethings. It seems to me that we pretty much all listened to very identifiable genres – rock, pop, country. Then in my later teens came the punk explosion and MTV. In my twenties came New Wave and Rap. As I pushed thirty there came grunge, and I’m out of touch enough today to not know what is what. Music has splintered into so many subsects that it just seems ipossible to me for more than one or two groups to so grab everyone that they last thirty-forty years like some of the above-mentioned. Nirvana is one that will be played, so is Metallica. I’ve heard the 3:00 a. m. song by Matchbox 20, but no others, and perhaps it takes groups that can even reach out to aging fans like me and be able to “sell out” to us middle-of-the-road boring-ass predominately white-bread folks who thought Queen was the epitome of risque and edgy. And when we say “being played 20 years from now,” do we really mean being played and recognized by a wide spectrum, or like some folks that I listen to from 20 years ago, do we mean being played by a few afficionados, but no one else. Just some vague thoughts, I could be wrong. Sir Rhosis [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-todays-musical-groups-will-still-be-around-in-20-years/74504.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-todays-musical-groups-will-still-be-around-in-20-years/74504.md?page=3)