# Which of Trump's political sins disqualifies him most? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 27, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-trumps-political-sins-disqualifies-him-most/761066 "2016-07-27T22:35:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-trumps-political-sins-disqualifies-him-most/761066/1 "2016-07-27T22:35:33Z")
Donald Jackass Trump has done and said a lot of outrageous stuff. Outrageous enough that a significant number of establishment Republicans have repudiated him, refused to endorse him, and some have gone as far as to say they’ll vote for Hillary Clinton. Which of Trump’s political sins disqualifies him most in your opinion? Multiple responses allowed. Poll incoming. I’ll try to think of as many Trump-outrages for this poll as I can, so it will take a bit. And I will forget some, undoubtedly. Forgive me in that case\*, and please write in your own. \*Or, you know, not. Defense of said outrages also invited. Good luck. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-trumps-political-sins-disqualifies-him-most/761066/2 "2016-07-27T22:42:33Z")
I don’t know all the details, but apparently he was in charge of a family foundation that, among other things, provided health insurance to the extended family. Trump has a nephew who has a severe form of CP, along with a seizure disorder. The brother who is the father of the disabled nephew challenged Trump on some detail of their father’s will, and Trump’s response was to cut them off from the health insurance. The nephew whose medical needs were extraordinary, including treatment for the seizures as well as therapy for the CP, had no medical coverage. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-trumps-political-sins-disqualifies-him-most/761066/3 "2016-07-27T22:45:52Z")
I’ll go with the fact he doesn’t know how our government works. Presidents aren’t allowed to write new tax laws, go to war all by themselves, and stop parole hearings for people (John (David) Hinkley Jr.). He doesn’t know what is allowed, what is federal or state. He makes deals-- bad ones when it comes to real estate leading to bankruptcy and writing off investors and contractors to the point of gaining over 3,500 lawsuits against himself. He still continues to see the globe as a real estate market-- including Israel and Syria. Have we ever had a Presidential nominee that had this many suits filed against them? I’ll let others continue… ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-trumps-political-sins-disqualifies-him-most/761066/4 "2016-07-27T22:50:53Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > I don’t know all the details, but apparently he was in charge of a family foundation that, among other things, provided health insurance to the extended family. Trump has a nephew who has a severe form of CP, along with a seizure disorder. The brother who is the father of the disabled nephew challenged Trump on some detail of their father’s will, and Trump’s response was to cut them off from the health insurance. The nephew whose medical needs were extraordinary, including treatment for the seizures as well as therapy for the CP, had no medical coverage. [NY Times](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/03/us/politics/for-donald-trump-lessons-from-a-brothers-suffering.html) > [@](#): > > Then came the unveiling of Fred Sr.’s will, which Donald had helped draft. It divided the bulk of the inheritance, at least $20 million, among his children and their descendants, “other than my son Fred C. Trump Jr.” > > Freddy’s children sued, claiming that an earlier version of the will had entitled them to their father’s share of the estate, but that Donald and his siblings had used “undue influence” over their grandfather, who had dementia, to cut them out. > > \*\*A week later, Mr. Trump retaliated by withdrawing the medical benefits critical to his nephew’s infant child. > > “I was angry because they sued,” he explained during last week’s interview.\*\* > > At the time, he attributed their exclusion from the will to his father’s “tremendous dislike” for Freddy’s ex-wife, Linda. She and Fred III declined to comment on the dispute. > > Mr. Trump said that the litigation had been settled “very amicably” and that he was fond of Fred III, who works in real estate, though not for the Trump organization. He also said that, at 69, he had grown to appreciate his brother’s free spirit. > > “He would have been an amazing peacemaker if he didn’t have the problem, **because everybody loved him,” he said. “He’s like the opposite of me.”** ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-trumps-political-sins-disqualifies-him-most/761066/5 "2016-07-27T23:21:02Z")
[ol] [li]Saying Muslims should have to register in a special database.[/li][li]Encouraging espionage against the US.[/li][li]Promising to commit war crimes.[/li][li]Saying he’d default on the national debt.[/li][li]Refusing to honor our mutual defense treaties.[/li][/ol] Dozens and dozens of other things, but these five would each individually be among the worst decisions the US has ever made. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-trumps-political-sins-disqualifies-him-most/761066/6 "2016-07-27T23:23:54Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > [ol] > [li]Saying Muslims should have to register in a special database.[/li][li]Encouraging espionage against the US.[/li][li]Promising to commit war crimes.[/li][li]Saying he’d default on the national debt.[/li][li]Refusing to honor our mutual defense treaties.[/li][/ol] > > Dozens and dozens of other things, but these five would each individually be among the worst decisions the US has ever made. I have to agree. We’ll see if these (or issues like these) take the lead in the poll. It’s kind of hard to pick the worst among so many! (It was hard even to keep the list to a semi-manageable amount. I could have included: cavalier attitude towards the First Amendment! But that is not quite as well supported as the others.) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-trumps-political-sins-disqualifies-him-most/761066/7 "2016-07-28T00:29:33Z")
You forgot the ‘All of the above’ option. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-trumps-political-sins-disqualifies-him-most/761066/8 "2016-07-28T00:55:10Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > You forgot the ‘All of the above’ option. I left it off deliberately. Better to have people go over the list, and click as many options as desired. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-trumps-political-sins-disqualifies-him-most/761066/9 "2016-07-28T00:57:05Z")
You forgot: Broad protectionist impulses accompanied by harsh anti-Chinese rhetoric and desire to inflict terror into legitimate businessmen by threatening absurdly unconstitutional attacks on their companies. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-trumps-political-sins-disqualifies-him-most/761066/10 "2016-07-28T00:59:45Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > You forgot: > > Broad protectionist impulses accompanied by harsh anti-Chinese rhetoric and desire to inflict terror into legitimate businessmen by threatening absurdly unconstitutional attacks on their companies. Yep, my bad. That should definitely be an option. ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-trumps-political-sins-disqualifies-him-most/761066/11 "2016-07-28T01:19:20Z")
The racism/xenophobia combination does it for me. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-trumps-political-sins-disqualifies-him-most/761066/12 "2016-07-28T02:28:58Z")
Only the first one, NATO obligations. All of those other things have been attributes of Presidents we’ve actually had, some of them actually popular. But reneging on an alliance is just not done. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-trumps-political-sins-disqualifies-him-most/761066/13 "2016-07-28T03:30:36Z")
Come on, guys. It’s the email thing from today. I’m going to go write a post about it on Trump’s thread, but here’s a preview: > [@](#): > > A list of “top ten most outrageous things a major party’s nominee has ever said or done” would almost certainly feature Trump at every position, especially if we are talking about modern political history (since women and racial minorities could participate). But what he said today is number one, AINEC. In any remotely sane world (and I thought, before this year, that I lived in one), his own party would figure out a way of negating his nomination. Or, if that were not legally possible, all elected Republicans (other than maybe a few in the lunatic fringe in the House or state legislatures) would declare the strongest possible condemnation for him and urge their constituents not to vote for him. ETA: > [@adaher](#): > > Only the first one, NATO obligations. All of those other things have been attributes of Presidents we’ve actually had, some of them actually popular. But reneging on an alliance is just not done. Which other president called upon an adversary to commit espionage against his political opponent? ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-trumps-political-sins-disqualifies-him-most/761066/14 "2016-07-28T03:34:04Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > All of those other things have been attributes of Presidents we’ve actually had, some of them actually popular. What the actual fuck? … :smack: Whatever. Moving on, nothing to see here… ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-trumps-political-sins-disqualifies-him-most/761066/15 "2016-07-28T03:54:32Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > What the actual fuck? … > > :smack: > > Whatever. Moving on, nothing to see here… It’s true. George Washington was often casually racist to black people. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-trumps-political-sins-disqualifies-him-most/761066/16 "2016-07-28T04:15:22Z")
This probably falls into the “Something I Didn’t Think Of” category - for me, it’s how utterly immature Trump is. He has the mental maturity of a spoiled brat. It’s all about him, him, him. No concept of what would be good for others or for his political party or other countries or anything. No, it’s all a “I want what I want and I’ll throw a fit if you don’t give it to me” mindset. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-trumps-political-sins-disqualifies-him-most/761066/17 "2016-07-28T04:24:56Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > This probably falls into the “Something I Didn’t Think Of” category - for me, it’s how utterly immature Trump is. He has the mental maturity of a spoiled brat. It’s all about him, him, him. No concept of what would be good for others or for his political party or other countries or anything. No, it’s all a “I want what I want and I’ll throw a fit if you don’t give it to me” mindset. Have you seen the cartoons replacing [Calvin (from Calvin and Hobbes) with Trump](http://uproxx.com/webculture/donald-trump-calvin-and-hobbes/)? It’s so believable to imagine Trump as very much like a Calvin who never, ever grew up, or learned empathy, or ever figured out that there’s more to the world than himself. Trump has the emotional maturity of a 6-year old. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-trumps-political-sins-disqualifies-him-most/761066/18 "2016-07-28T04:26:43Z")
Those are great. Very prescient! ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-trumps-political-sins-disqualifies-him-most/761066/19 "2016-07-28T04:30:50Z")
The interesting part is that what’s funny in a 6-year old is utterly horrifying in a grown adult, especially one who has received a major party nomination for president. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-trumps-political-sins-disqualifies-him-most/761066/20 "2016-07-28T04:39:30Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > You forgot the ‘All of the above’ option. This. Years before he ever decided to run for president, I considered Trump to be the most repulsive person on the planet. And now that he’s running, I believe his motive is entirely to manipulate the economy and foreign trade for his own personal gain. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-trumps-political-sins-disqualifies-him-most/761066.md?page=2)