# Which ONE Crime Would You Like The True Answer To? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 8, 2010, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-crime-would-you-like-the-true-answer-to/524101 "2010-01-08T00:25:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![manila](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e5b9ba/32.png) [@manila](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manila)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-crime-would-you-like-the-true-answer-to/524101/101 "2010-01-09T23:29:56Z")
Jesus, more specifically who dug him up and where did they hide the body? ---
**Author:** ![Busy\_Scissors](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@Busy\_Scissors](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Busy_Scissors)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-crime-would-you-like-the-true-answer-to/524101/102 "2010-01-10T01:10:12Z")
What was the exact hand that John Bennett played at the Bridge table, that lead to his wife [shooting him deid](http://www.snopes.com/luck/bennett.asp)? 4 spades minus two = death :eek: Serious one - [Madeleine Mcann](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Madeleine_McCann). The family gets a fair bit of stick and snide innuendo directed their way, but there’s never been anything serious implicating them in her disapperance - certainly nothing as dodgy as some of the cases mentioned already in this thread. I guess the massive media coverage makes me wonder about it more. ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-crime-would-you-like-the-true-answer-to/524101/103 "2010-01-10T02:04:41Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Your jeans were in the glove compartment? Yes. The truck didn’t have locks, at all, so I put them in the glove compartment to sorta hide them from casual passers-by. No, I don’t remember why I had spare jeans in the car; probably had something to do with working two jobs and sometimes sleeping over at my sweetie’s rather than drive 40 miles home to sleep. It was quite a while ago. BUT I STILL MISS THOSE JEANS! ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-crime-would-you-like-the-true-answer-to/524101/104 "2010-01-10T03:06:10Z")
> [@Markxxx](#): > > OK we all know \ buncha crimes\ > > I would also include things like the [Black Dhalia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Dhalia), which was never solved > > **But for the purposes of this thread it has to be a crime, not like a disappearance, like Jimmy Hoffa**. We would assume some crime was involved but no one can be 100%. > [@blondebear](#): > > I’d like to know what happened to Jimmy Hoffa. > [@Landshark](#): > > I’ll also say the Jimmy Hoffa disappearance. Come back and try again. ---
**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-crime-would-you-like-the-true-answer-to/524101/105 "2010-01-10T04:47:20Z")
> [@nyctea scandiaca](#): > > Wow, **Gus** , that is horrible. Do you have any theories on her case? Yes, but it is still open and I don’t really speculate about it. ---
**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-crime-would-you-like-the-true-answer-to/524101/106 "2010-01-10T04:49:52Z")
> [@scifisam2009](#): > > God, that’s the stuff of nightmares. I hope the crime is solved someday. Thanks. I hope so also… ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-crime-would-you-like-the-true-answer-to/524101/107 "2010-01-10T05:44:07Z")
JonBenet Ramsey. That family was so insanely creepy! Did you all ever see _Coraline_? The Ramseys were like the button-eyed version of a nice upper-upper-middle-class family. Underneath the veneer of perfection lurked sheer horror. I want to know to what extent the values and ideals embraced by the Ramseys contributed to JonBenet’s assault and murder. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-crime-would-you-like-the-true-answer-to/524101/108 "2010-01-10T06:11:06Z")
JonBenet Ramsey, again. ---
**Author:** ![Scougs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scougs/32/3158_2.png) [@Scougs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scougs)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-crime-would-you-like-the-true-answer-to/524101/109 "2010-01-10T14:06:00Z")
I’m going to come back and post again, because I’m really surprised that I’m the only one that seems to have mentioned Lockerbie. Or maybe more folks around here know it better as Pan Am Flight 103. 270 dead. An awful lot of political to-ing and fro-ing, before the flimsiest of evidence is deemed enough to lock up a single individual, Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi. Massive international backlash when he was released on compassionate grounds due to terminal illness (or apparent terminal illness… he’s still alive five months later). Given some of the debate in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=528775), I thought a few more people on the Dope would have been interested in having this one solved. ---
**Author:** ![thirdname](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@thirdname](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdname)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-crime-would-you-like-the-true-answer-to/524101/110 "2010-01-10T15:01:02Z")
How about the burning of the Library at Alexandria? ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-crime-would-you-like-the-true-answer-to/524101/111 "2010-01-10T16:32:15Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > Come back and try again. I plead guilty to the crime of not reading the entire OP. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![california\_jobcase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9d8465/32.png) [@california\_jobcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/california_jobcase)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-crime-would-you-like-the-true-answer-to/524101/112 "2010-01-10T19:07:42Z")
I want to know what happened to Tara Grinstead- it’s a local thing for me. [http://www.findtara.com/](http://www.findtara.com/) ---
**Author:** ![maplekiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@maplekiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maplekiwi)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-crime-would-you-like-the-true-answer-to/524101/113 "2010-01-10T20:03:18Z")
David Tamihere was convicted of the Swedish Tourist Murders. [Shock new theory on Tamihere's Swedish murders | Stuff.co.nz](http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/562234) i’d like to know if he really did it. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-crime-would-you-like-the-true-answer-to/524101/114 "2010-01-10T22:42:41Z")
> [@dragonlady](#): > > Nope, he’s in prison in Nevada on other charges. He’s always got spot on instincts on where to look for the real killer. ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-crime-would-you-like-the-true-answer-to/524101/115 "2010-01-10T23:30:03Z")
I don’t claim to be an expert on the JonBenet Ramsey murder. But what I have learned about it has convinced me that the Ramseys were not involved, and were victims of a particularly brutal instance of being tried in the media. The police were shockingly sloppy in securing the crime scene, which was probably to blame for the killer’s evasion. There was a time when I thought otherwise. Their hiring of a lawyer right after the murder sounded fishy to me. But I’ve since learned, as a cop friend told me at the time, that’s what rich people do when they are in any way involved in a crime, even if they’re innocent victims. The creepiness of those children’s beauty pageants certainly raised a lot of people’s eyebrows. But while JonBenet’s exposure in those contests may have been a factor in her being targeted, I don’t think there was anything worse than the age-old situation of an ex-beauty queen (Mrs. Ramsey was a former Miss West Virginia) wanting to live her youth over again through her kid. There was also some weirdness in the amount demanded in ransom being identical to the father’s recent bonus. But the Ramseys were scrutinized \*very \*closely. Nothing in their past - either one of them - indicated the kinds of disorders that could lead to such a crime. If I am wrong about anything factual here, please feel free to correct me. And yes, I would indeed like to know who _did_ commit the crime. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-crime-would-you-like-the-true-answer-to/524101/116 "2010-01-10T23:39:17Z")
JFK, for the reasons others have put forth. ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-crime-would-you-like-the-true-answer-to/524101/117 "2010-01-11T02:05:53Z")
> [@F.U.Shakespeare](#): > > I don’t claim to be an expert on the JonBenet Ramsey murder. > > But what I have learned about it has convinced me that the Ramseys were not involved, and were victims of a particularly brutal instance of being tried in the media. The police were shockingly sloppy in securing the crime scene, which was probably to blame for the killer’s evasion. > > There was a time when I thought otherwise. Their hiring of a lawyer right after the murder sounded fishy to me. But I’ve since learned, as a cop friend told me at the time, that’s what rich people do when they are in any way involved in a crime, even if they’re innocent victims. The creepiness of those children’s beauty pageants certainly raised a lot of people’s eyebrows. But while JonBenet’s exposure in those contests may have been a factor in her being targeted, I don’t think there was anything worse than the age-old situation of an ex-beauty queen (Mrs. Ramsey was a former Miss West Virginia) wanting to live her youth over again through her kid. > > There was also some weirdness in the amount demanded in ransom being identical to the father’s recent bonus. > > But the Ramseys were scrutinized \*very \*closely. Nothing in their past - either one of them - indicated the kinds of disorders that could lead to such a crime. > > If I am wrong about anything factual here, please feel free to correct me. > > And yes, I would indeed like to know who _did_ commit the crime. I think I remember that the stationary or writing paper that the uber-bizzare “ransom note that wasn’t actually a ransom note” ('cause the kid’s dead body was still in the house) was written on proved to be taken from the Ramsay’s own home. If some random stranger (or disgruntled employee or even a pedo who was specifically targeting JonBenet) comitted this crime, would they really search the house for writing paper (either before, during or after a murder) and then take the time to hand write a multi-page note? You are right that the Ramsay family was under microscopic scrutiny, but my sense is that the family was somehow involved in JonBenet’s death (which in my mind was probably accidentally caused by one of the parents) and were actually able to get away with it. ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-crime-would-you-like-the-true-answer-to/524101/118 "2010-01-11T04:05:20Z")
> [@BMalion](#): > > Who let the dogs out? OK ------ I had hoped someone else would point out the obvious. It was Roger Daltrey, Pete Townshend, John Entwistle, and Keith Moon. I believe PETA tried to claim responsibility but the question almost answered itself. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-crime-would-you-like-the-true-answer-to/524101/119 "2010-01-11T04:20:54Z")
> [@kopek](#): > > OK ------ I had hoped someone else would point out the obvious. It was Roger Daltrey, Pete Townshend, John Entwistle, and Keith Moon. I believe PETA tried to claim responsibility but the question almost answered itself. > 😃 … that was…perfect. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-crime-would-you-like-the-true-answer-to/524101/120 "2010-01-11T14:22:20Z")
Wow, third page and I’m the first to say [Judge Crater](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Crater). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-crime-would-you-like-the-true-answer-to/524101.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-crime-would-you-like-the-true-answer-to/524101.md?page=7)