# Which one is paradise for you, which one is hell, and where do you think you live? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [May 13, 2020, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-is-paradise-for-you-which-one-is-hell-and-where-do-you-think-you-live/853704 "2020-05-13T11:19:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-is-paradise-for-you-which-one-is-hell-and-where-do-you-think-you-live/853704/81 "2020-06-18T18:21:15Z")
> [@AlexPontik](#): > > Let’s see: > > 1. Mindless bliss, has been tried by many, but it’s not bliss, because if it was, the majority would be doing mindless bliss with drugs, but they don’t. So this one is not realistic, for now. > 2. people physically incapable of laughter is not people in your example, read what you wrote after this…so this is not realistic either for now. > 3. For the church argument, people being able to listen to endless speeches are not people. > > You need to assume that people are still people using your imagination as you know people in your lives. > > Assuming consciousness transferring, demons and gods, sure we can do that, but I think you should have already understood that we are not doing that. Why? Because if you make such assumptions, how do you know that people are laughing honestly or not? > To know if people are laughing honestly you should imagine people laughing honestly. > And I’m getting the sense that some of you here don’t believe that there is such a thing as laughing honestly.Why? Let’s wait for the answers of those ones here and the rest of you will find out The problem is that your very premise is not even wrong. Let’s look ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-is-paradise-for-you-which-one-is-hell-and-where-do-you-think-you-live/853704/82 "2020-06-18T18:27:29Z")
> [@AlexPontik](#): > > And I’m getting the sense that some of you here don’t believe that there is such a thing as laughing honestly. The problem is that your very premise is [not even wrong](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Not_even_wrong). Let’s look at it: > [@](#): > > Imagine a paradise where no one is ever laughing honestly, then imagine a hell where everyone is always laughing honestly. “Imagine a perfect place of endless pleasure where everyone is forever dour vs. a place of endless torture where everyone is uproarously happy.” That is [Insane Troll Logic](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InsaneTrollLogic). ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-is-paradise-for-you-which-one-is-hell-and-where-do-you-think-you-live/853704/83 "2020-06-18T18:30:47Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > The problem is that your very premise is [not even wrong](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Not_even_wrong). Let’s look at it: > > “Imagine a perfect place of endless pleasure where everyone is forever dour vs. a place of endless torture where everyone is uproarously happy.” That is [Insane Troll Logic](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InsaneTrollLogic). You demon! You sent me to TVTropes! Are you _trying_ to destroy my productivity with genuine laughter?? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-one-is-paradise-for-you-which-one-is-hell-and-where-do-you-think-you-live/853704.md?page=4)