# Which Party Has the Mobs?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 1, 2018, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828 "2018-11-01T10:45:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/141 "2018-11-03T17:10:37Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
>
> Here you go:
> 
> [Maxine Waters](https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/25/judicial-watch-files-house-ethics-complaint-agains/) (MAXINE 2020!!!)
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> [Hillary Clinton](https://www.chicksonright.com/youngconservatives/2018/10/10/hillary-calls-for-end-of-civility-in-politics-incites-violence-against-republicans-scalise-fires-back/)  
> [Corey Booker](https://thepoliticalinsider.com/cory-booker-republicans-get-up-in-face/)
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> [Eric Holder](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/eric-holder-rejects-michelle-obamas-call-for-civility)
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> [Barack Obama](https://menrec.com/5-times-obama-encouraged-violence-republicans/)
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> [Tim Kaine](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/01/31/kaine_take_advantage_of_public_outcry_at_trump_to_get_outside_the_bubble.html#!)
> 
> [Chris Cuomo](https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2018/08/14/cnn-chris-cuomo-antifa-violence-right/)

Scrolled over the links, saw the sources…and decided **Rittersport** has got the right idea.  
Buh bye.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/142 "2018-11-03T17:12:04Z")

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Do Magellan and Ditka and these other idiots come through a membrane from a different reality? Because their grasp of our reality is completely confused.

Or maybe this is the way stupidity gets reinforced in post-rational America. Even for the most mundane stories, Magellan, Clothahump, etc. provide cites that point to [StupidityIsUs.com](http://StupidityIsUs.com), Nonsense\_Lies.ru, Dumb\_rightwing\_troll\_posting \_from\_his\_parents\_garage.org and “news sources” of that ilk. Do they have no self-awareness? Do they have even a clue how stupid they appear to the rest of us?

It would be really hard to believe that Alex Jones and Sean Hannity had millions of viewers, except that we can see the evidence right here with Magellan et al.

Heaven Help America.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/143 "2018-11-03T17:12:12Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Here you go:
> 
> [Maxine Waters](https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/25/judicial-watch-files-house-ethics-complaint-agains/) (MAXINE 2020!!!)
> 
> [Hillary Clinton](https://www.chicksonright.com/youngconservatives/2018/10/10/hillary-calls-for-end-of-civility-in-politics-incites-violence-against-republicans-scalise-fires-back/)  
> [Corey Booker](https://thepoliticalinsider.com/cory-booker-republicans-get-up-in-face/)
> 
> [Eric Holder](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/eric-holder-rejects-michelle-obamas-call-for-civility)
> 
> [Barack Obama](https://menrec.com/5-times-obama-encouraged-violence-republicans/)
> 
> [Tim Kaine](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/01/31/kaine_take_advantage_of_public_outcry_at_trump_to_get_outside_the_bubble.html#!)
> 
> [Chris Cuomo](https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2018/08/14/cnn-chris-cuomo-antifa-violence-right/)

I looked at your first two links and they clearly show that you’re a fucking liar. So, I didn’t bother with the rest, you fucking liar. Rejecting a call for civility is not inciting violence, you fucking liar.

I know I said I’m done with you, but after this latest bullshit, I’m out of here, you fucking liar.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/144 "2018-11-03T17:18:39Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> I looked at your first two links and they clearly show that you’re a fucking liar. So, I didn’t bother with the rest, you fucking liar. Rejecting a call for civility is not inciting violence, you fucking liar.
> 
> I know I said I’m done with you, but after this latest bullshit, I’m out of here, you fucking liar.

Sorry to ruin your day with facts, douchebag. Actually, I lied, I’m not sorry at all. 🙂 But don’t be too afraid to click on the other links, you _might_ learn something but your Anti-Uncomfortable-Information-Shield is probably thick enough to prevent it penetrating and doing you any good.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/145 "2018-11-03T17:23:40Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Do Magellan and Ditka and these other idiots come through a membrane from a different reality? Because their grasp of our reality is completely confused.
> 
> Or maybe this is the way stupidity gets reinforced in post-rational America. Even for the most mundane stories, Magellan, Clothahump, etc. provide cites that point to [StupidityIsUs.com](http://StupidityIsUs.com), Nonsense\_Lies.ru, Dumb\_rightwing\_troll\_posting \_from\_his\_parents\_garage.org and “news sources” of that ilk. Do they have no self-awareness? Do they have even a clue how stupid they appear to the rest of us?
> 
> It would be really hard to believe that Alex Jones and Sean Hannity had millions of viewers, except that we can see the evidence right here with Magellan et al.
> 
> Heaven Help America.

LOVE THIS!. “Us”. “They.” If you want a clue the size of the Sun to show you partisan thinking, just refer back to the words above. Bonus: serves as good evidence of the bat-shit left bias of SDMB. Double bonus: great reference for mob mentality in debating.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/146 "2018-11-03T17:24:40Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> If I’m parsing this correctly, you are trying to say that slugging a Nazi for killing a black person is worse than the Nazi actually killing a black person because it’s morally ambiguous and some people might approve of it?

That specific example does make my point look ludicrous. But no, I’m saying that there is more danger to society in giving up freedom because of noble sounding reasons than when a threat to freedom is obvious.

The reason I take a harder line with Antifa on these boards than I do with Nazis is that everyone knows real Nazis are bad and they are a very fringe movement with very little support. But the idea that free speech or freedom to assemble as concepts might be problematic is actually a real danger on college campuses and at left wing political rallies. Furthermore, the arguments used to restrict these fundamental rights are seductive and can and have spread.

Public universities have illegal speech codes. That’s s problem. Outside of stormfront where do you find Nazis?

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/147 "2018-11-03T17:27:43Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Bombs, tiki torches, mass murders, a President and his political party routinely pushing the conspiracy theories that rouse the rabble to commit mass murders and send bombs through the mail…all coming from one side of the political spectrum.

This. that side has cliven Bundy (and company), Proud Boys, KKK, Nazis, “unregulated militias” (heavily armed racist assholes), bombers, church burners, etc etc etc etc. NOTICE for all the talk about “taking back” and civil war, they are very careful to only go after “safe” (as in unarmed and unprotected) targets.

And Trump refuses to tone down any of his hate rhetoric. Instead he amps it up and blames the victims… enemy of the people media, synagogues that should have armed themselves, etc etc etc.

These cowards and their coward leader turn my stomach.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/148 "2018-11-03T17:30:27Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> The Democratic equivalent seems to be the GOP boogeyman, antifa. Which far as I can tell is like Chopper from Stand by Me. The most feared, and least seen dog in Castle Rock. It’s incredible how much airtime Foxnews devotes to this group that appears to only exist in the loosest sense.

Antifa??? The guys who want to stop Nazi attacks and give the Nazis the beatings the DESERVE??? At this point they have my full damn support. It’s too bad WW2 didn’t end them all, like it was supposed to.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/149 "2018-11-03T17:36:47Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Antifa??? The guys who want to stop Nazi attacks and give the Nazis the beatings the DESERVE??? At this point they have my full damn support. It’s too bad WW2 didn’t end them all, like it was supposed to.

Who else you want to label Nazi and beat, you unhinged coward?

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/150 "2018-11-03T17:39:22Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> …
> 
> Lower the temperature.  
> It’s important. These things get out of hand really fast. A lot of people could get killed.
> 
> In this respect, do not be on the side of the right or the left. Be on the side of those who are trying to focus on the bonds of community and who are lowering the temperature of the overheated hyperbole and political rhetoric.

Tell that to YOUR fucking side or shut up. The ones with the bombs, the white hoods, the swastikas.

Too many of us have had it with the bullshit you and your kind have been spreading.

Things are ALREADY out of hand. So tell YOUR damn side to fuck off and behave.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/151 "2018-11-03T17:40:55Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Actually 98 to 1, since that’s 49 killed and 49 wounded v. 1 wounded.
> 
> But god_ **damn** _, one shouldn’t _need_ to keep a tally of this sort of horror; it should be plainly **obvious** which side is more violent and dangerous. Our regret at your departure will be so immeasurable that nobody will bother to measure it.

Regrets? Naw, fuck him and his kind.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/152 "2018-11-03T17:46:10Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> [And here is a video of cats riding Roombas](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk4XB2wZqF4), which has just as much to do with the topic of this thread as the links you have provided.

I’d rather watch the cats than listen to that son of a bitch. The cats talk more sense too.

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/153 "2018-11-03T17:47:54Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Outside of stormfront where do you find Nazis?

At my synagogue.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/154 "2018-11-03T17:48:21Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Your ilk preaches violence; calls cops on or even shoots at blacks for no “crime” except being black; separates kids from their parents and locks them in cages; sends bombs through the mail; and loves a President who foments violence. Just a few days ago a massacre occurred in the name of Trump. (“Oh! Don’t blame us!”)
> 
> And what do you got? Somebody grabbed a hat, and two links to right-wing looney sites. :smack:
> 
> I’ll click to an obvious waste-of-time looney site, and I’ll prove I’m not a robot for a site I want to read, but I will NOT prove I’m not a robot just to access a right-wing looney site. 🙂 Hence I only clicked to your first cite (and didn’t click its video, if any). Let’s see if I got this right: Random idiot assaults a Trump-inny verbally — no hands — and this and the hat-grabbing, is what you’re going with to show that anti-Trumpists are just as bad as the right-wing apes who commit or incite physical assaults on reporters, blacks, etc. Got it.
> 
> What’s especially amusing is that your right-wing reporter (_and you_ with your “pussy … shithead”) focus your spite against the “shithead” not for his shittiness nor for the (non-existent) battery he didn’t commit, but for his alleged cowardice! 😃 Wow!
> 
> I wonder if you pretentious racist dolts have any idea how insipidly stupid you appear to sentient humans.

They yell for agression of all sorts against their “enemies” but when they get any “lack of politeness” they can’t handle it. WE know who the cowards shit heads and pussies are.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/155 "2018-11-03T17:50:57Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> Trump did.

“good people on both sides…” Uh huh. One side was Nazis. That means Nazis are “good people”. He FUCKING SAID IT.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/156 "2018-11-03T17:52:10Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> I looked at your first two links and they clearly show that you’re a fucking liar. So, I didn’t bother with the rest, you fucking liar. Rejecting a call for civility is not inciting violence, you fucking liar.
> 
> I know I said I’m done with you, but after this latest bullshit, I’m out of here, you fucking liar.

P.S.  
Fuck civility. It’s too late for that.

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**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/157 "2018-11-03T17:53:29Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> If it were just a few of the type of issues you cite, this really wouldn’t be an issue. But rampant. Grabbing someone’s hat may not seem like a big deal, but the retaliation it would rightly merit can escalate quickly. And the sheer number combined with the more serious ones makes this something that shouldn’t be hand waved away. Look at the crowds outside the rallies leading up to the election. And here are two more recent examples of behavior that has no place in civilized society:
> 
> [Vile, pussy Antifa shithead.](https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/10/woman-whose-husband-died-on-9-11-assaulted-by-antifa-thug-when-thug-confronted-instant-karma-video/)
> 
> [Bullying shithead white liberal accosting smaller black guy.](https://clashdaily.com/2018/10/watch-white-leftist-confronts-black-man-with-maga-hat-and-its-disgusting/)

Second one is fake.

> **[Does This Video Show a Man Ripping the MAGA Hat Off a Trump Supporter?](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/maga-hat-starbucks-video/)**
>
> A YouTuber’s staged video has been taken seriously by several media outlets despite some telling signs of pranksterism.

The first one is from gateway pundit. The same idiots who fell for the Mueller scam.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/158 "2018-11-03T17:58:50Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
>
> Has the Republican Party endorsed the Charlottesville event or Bundy takeover?

> [@Derleth](#):
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> Trump did.

And he also pardoned the Bundy’s for their takeover. I’d consider that to be an endorsement.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/159 "2018-11-03T17:59:11Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> I’d rather watch the cats than listen to that son of a bitch. The cats talk more sense too.

[Shark cat on Roomba chasing baby duck.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3tU_SYSfOU)

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/160 "2018-11-03T18:00:07Z")

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> [@Eonwe](#):
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> At my synagogue.

or any Trump rally.

[https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjQmt3L5bjeAhWQFHwKHYA0DlsQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fnews%2Fthe-fix%2Fwp%2F2016%2F03%2F07%2Fthe-hitler-ification-of-donald-trump%2F&psig=AOvVaw3B1J6LkDvx-I\_X1DH8X88D&ust=1541354071314617](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjQmt3L5bjeAhWQFHwKHYA0DlsQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fnews%2Fthe-fix%2Fwp%2F2016%2F03%2F07%2Fthe-hitler-ification-of-donald-trump%2F&psig=AOvVaw3B1J6LkDvx-I_X1DH8X88D&ust=1541354071314617)

[https://www.alternet.org/sites/default/files/styles/story\_image/public/story\_images/24713789745\_5139bab503\_z.jpg?itok=uyoTF6T7](https://www.alternet.org/sites/default/files/styles/story_image/public/story_images/24713789745_5139bab503_z.jpg?itok=uyoTF6T7)

[https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjC1Pz95bjeAhUGBnwKHc2FBToQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0-ldnkxjypA&psig=AOvVaw37A2hD6mX8P\_GtpbGKFeNq&ust=1541354184413264](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjC1Pz95bjeAhUGBnwKHc2FBToQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0-ldnkxjypA&psig=AOvVaw37A2hD6mX8P_GtpbGKFeNq&ust=1541354184413264)

> **[Video Shows Alt-Right Group Engaging in 'Hail Trump' Salute](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/alt-right-hail-trump-salute/)**
>
> Video clips of a meeting of the National Policy Institute, a white supremacist/alt-right group, show speaker Richard Spencer leading a Nazi salute.

Video Shows Alt-Right Group Engaging in ‘Hail Trump’ Salute  
Video clips of a meeting of the National Policy Institute, a white supremacist/alt-right group, show speaker Richard Spencer leading a Nazi salute.  
video: [https://youtu.be/1o6-bi3jlxk](https://youtu.be/1o6-bi3jlxk)

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