# Which Party Has the Mobs?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 1, 2018, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828 "2018-11-01T10:45:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/161 "2018-11-03T18:01:24Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> [Shark cat on Roomba chasing baby duck.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3tU_SYSfOU)

Good stuff! 😃

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/162 "2018-11-03T18:16:08Z")

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> [@Wolf333](#):
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> Second one is fake.
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> [Does This Video Show a Man Ripping the MAGA Hat Off a Trump Supporter? | Snopes.com](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/maga-hat-starbucks-video/)
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> The first one is from gateway pundit. The same idiots who fell for the Mueller scam.

What an odd thing to fake. Glad to hear it, though. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/163 "2018-11-03T18:18:38Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> And here are two more recent examples of behavior that has no place in civilized society:
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> [Vile, pussy Antifa shithead.](https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/10/woman-whose-husband-died-on-9-11-assaulted-by-antifa-thug-when-thug-confronted-instant-karma-video/)
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> [Bullying shithead white liberal accosting smaller black guy.](https://clashdaily.com/2018/10/watch-white-leftist-confronts-black-man-with-maga-hat-and-its-disgusting/)

Gateway Pundit and Clash Daily??

Dude, I’m not even gonna bother. Gateway Pundit uncritically bought into the rape accusation against Bob Mueller, until the whole thing became a laughingstock. And just go to Clash Daily’s [front page](https://clashdaily.com/).

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/164 "2018-11-03T18:27:14Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Outside of stormfront where do you find Nazis?

[Wikipedia has a list.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_white_nationalist_organizations#United_States) 🙂

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/165 "2018-11-03T18:28:27Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Sorry to ruin your day with facts, douchebag. Actually, I lied, I’m not sorry at all. 🙂 But don’t be too afraid to click on the other links, you _might_ learn something

:rolleyes: Those “facts” are actually just silly distortions. For example, the link about Chris Cuomo quotes him as talking about the need for hatred and bigotry to be “stamped out”, and then squeals hysterically that what he wants is for **“the left’s” political opponents** to be stamped out. Hardly the same thing, unless “the left’s” political opponents are in fact voluntarily equating themselves with hatred and bigotry.

And that’s what you consider, or hope you can con us into considering, an example of Democrats “encouraging mob violence”? Not impressed, dude.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/166 "2018-11-03T18:32:28Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> Let’s be real here, they were going up against equally aggressive counter-demonstrators.

Cite?

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> They weren’t roaming around in bands assaulting passers-by and destroying property for the sake of destroying property.

The driver of the car [wasn’t the only Nazi who put someone in the hospital](https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/white-supremacist-is-guilty-in-charlottesville-parking-garage-beating-of-black-man/2018/05/01/033396b4-4af9-11e8-8b5a-3b1697adcc2a_story.html?utm_term=.492578145ef7).

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> The assault on Harris, 20, a former special education instructional assistant, was so ferocious that he suffered a spinal injury, a broken arm and head lacerations that required eight staples

He was down on the ground, and the Nazis were beating him with rods.

This was because

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> Just before Harris ran into the garage shortly after 11 a.m. that day, he was standing at its entrance. He saw a fellow counterprotester being speared in the abdomen with a flagpole by Harold Crews, the North Carolina state chairman of the white-nationalist group League of the South. To protect his friend, Harris swung a flashlight, trying to knock the flagpole away.

Yes, they were a **mob** of thugs looking to start fights and beat people up.

Fuck you and your attempts to define this as some peaceful protest.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/167 "2018-11-03T18:32:35Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> or any Trump rally.
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> [Redirect Notice](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjQmt3L5bjeAhWQFHwKHYA0DlsQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fnews%2Fthe-fix%2Fwp%2F2016%2F03%2F07%2Fthe-hitler-ification-of-donald-trump%2F&psig=AOvVaw3B1J6LkDvx-I_X1DH8X88D&ust=1541354071314617)
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> [https://www.alternet.org/sites/default/files/styles/story\_image/public/story\_images/24713789745\_5139bab503\_z.jpg?itok=uyoTF6T7](https://www.alternet.org/sites/default/files/styles/story_image/public/story_images/24713789745_5139bab503_z.jpg?itok=uyoTF6T7)
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> [https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjC1Pz95bjeAhUGBnwKHc2FBToQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0-ldnkxjypA&psig=AOvVaw37A2hD6mX8P\_GtpbGKFeNq&ust=1541354184413264](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjC1Pz95bjeAhUGBnwKHc2FBToQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0-ldnkxjypA&psig=AOvVaw37A2hD6mX8P_GtpbGKFeNq&ust=1541354184413264)
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> [Video Shows Alt-Right Group Engaging in 'Hail Trump' Salute | Snopes.com](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/alt-right-hail-trump-salute/)  
> Video Shows Alt-Right Group Engaging in ‘Hail Trump’ Salute  
> Video clips of a meeting of the National Policy Institute, a white supremacist/alt-right group, show speaker Richard Spencer leading a Nazi salute.  
> video: [https://youtu.be/1o6-bi3jlxk](https://youtu.be/1o6-bi3jlxk)

Hey, here’s a wild idea: let’s draw a line between speech and action, where you’re allowed to say anything, no matter how offensive, but you just can’t assault people? I think’s a good idea. I know it might sound a little wild to you, but I think it could catch on, maybe even become part of the Constitution. Whataya think?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/168 "2018-11-03T18:38:08Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Hey, here’s a wild idea: let’s draw a line between speech and action, where you’re allowed to say anything, no matter how offensive, but you just can’t assault people? I think’s a good idea. I know it might sound a little wild to you, but I think it could catch on, maybe even become part of the Constitution. Whataya think?

Pointing out that your political party is welcoming haven for violent white supremacists is not a violation of the first amendment. But nice attempt at deflection!

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/169 "2018-11-03T18:41:19Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Regrets? Naw, fuck him and his kind.

Whoosh. 🙂

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/170 "2018-11-03T18:47:37Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Hey, here’s a wild idea: let’s draw a line between speech and action, where you’re allowed to say anything, no matter how offensive, but you just can’t assault people? I think’s a good idea. I know it might sound a little wild to you, but I think it could catch on, maybe even become part of the Constitution. Whataya think?

Yeah, and I’ve talked about the actions. 49 dead, and as many wounded, by right wing violence since Trump became President.

But there are obvious reasons to draw a line between violent actions, and Trumpian, Foxian, and Republican Party speech that planted the notion that actions such as these might be necessary to save America from Soros and Jews and CNN and Democrats.

You bet, free speech is part of the Constitution. That doesn’t mean speech is always harmless.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/171 "2018-11-03T20:19:25Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Pointing out that your political party is welcoming haven for violent white supremacists is not a violation of the first amendment. But nice attempt at deflection!

It has to be noted, for all the more recent readers, that **magellan01** came to the SDMB while he was/is [a consumer of racist information](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb///showpost.php?p=8685398&postcount=29), nowhere has he demonstrated later that he has stopped [to feed the wrong wolf.](http://www.nativeamericanembassy.net/www.lenni-lenape.com/www/html/LenapeArchives/LenapeSet-01/feedwich.html)

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/172 "2018-11-03T20:23:46Z")

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He’s a homophobe, too, as long as we’re discussing histories.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/173 "2018-11-03T22:19:50Z")

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There’s an ad playing on a local radio station here in Topeka, sponsored by the Republicans.

It states that voting Republican is the only thing that can save us from violent Democratic mob rule. Talk about ugly.

And speaking about ugly rhetoric, and what it can whip people up to I’ll tell you about the current weekly sign posted by the Westboro Baptist Church. I drive by their compound often, on the way to the local dog park. Did you think that gays were their only target? Then you ought to see:

**GOD TO JEWS! NO SHABBAT SHALOM UNTIL YOU REPENT!**

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/174 "2018-11-03T23:00:31Z")

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If you had “yoga studio” in the “Guess where an alt-right monster will open fire next?” game, you’re a winner!

[https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/davidmack/tallahassee-yoga-shooter-incel-far-right-misogyny-video?\_\_twitter\_impression=true](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/davidmack/tallahassee-yoga-shooter-incel-far-right-misogyny-video?__twitter_impression=true)

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/175 "2018-11-03T23:32:37Z")

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I’d be really happy to never again fill in a square in that sort of bingo card.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2018, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/176 "2018-11-04T00:06:17Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> [And here is a video of cats riding Roombas](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk4XB2wZqF4), which has just as much to do with the topic of this thread as the links you have provided.

…fake news. The cat at 1:47 most definitely was not riding a Roomba.

:: skips to 1:52 :: Huh. I suppose it depends on how one defines “riding.”

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2018, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/177 "2018-11-04T01:19:41Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> And he also pardoned the Bundy’s for their takeover.

Uh what? He did? Are you _sure_? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2018, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/178 "2018-11-04T01:54:17Z")

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What is rather unfortunate, is that when trump and his ilk are removed and imprisoned, his supporters will just crawl back under their rocks to hope someone like trump will dig them out again.

Not quite sure how to educate people like Magellan and Octopus. It seems it can’t be done. It will take strength for us on the side of good to ignore them and make a better world until they finally die off in the light of day.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2018, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/179 "2018-11-04T02:21:39Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Pointing out that your political party is welcoming haven for violent white supremacists is not a violation of the first amendment. But nice attempt at deflection!

When that speech fuels violence. there’s a problem. When the person speaking it amps up and refuses to “tone it down”, and the exact individuals he NAMES are getting bombs - including ex presidents -the connection between words and action is obvious. And deliberate. When he is the PRESIDENT, it is a fucking PROBLEM.

As for Octopus, go fuck yourself you alt right Nazi bastard.

Hitler “just said words” too. So again, go fuck your self you sorry ass piece of filth.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2018, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-party-has-the-mobs/823828/180 "2018-11-04T02:45:46Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> What is rather unfortunate, is that when trump and his ilk are removed and imprisoned, his supporters will just crawl back under their rocks to hope someone like trump will dig them out again.
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> Not quite sure how to educate people like Magellan and Octopus. It seems it can’t be done. It will take strength for us on the side of good to ignore them and make a better world until they finally die off in the light of day.

Side of good? This isn’t D&D.

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