# Which president did I forget?

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 18, 2006, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-president-did-i-forget/365008 "2006-07-18T14:02:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Caricci](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Caricci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caricci)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-president-did-i-forget/365008/21 "2006-07-18T14:42:51Z")

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Curse you, **Zeldar**! 😉

I love Presidents Carter and Clinton. They’re like the angel and devil on my shoulders and, as I tell my Republican husband, I’m still “reporting” to Clinton.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-president-did-i-forget/365008/22 "2006-07-18T14:43:21Z")

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[QUOTE=Caricci]  
Okay, so it’s FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, right?  
Personally, I almost forgot Ford and Reagan and I remember them both well. I even remember that Reagan was Ford’s running mate when he ran against Carter, which confused me for a minute.

There are lots I forget pre-FDR.  
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Tell me about it. It’s just that I came in with FDR, so I have firsthand experience with that particular crowd. In school I could name them all, in order, all the way back. I doubt if I could name them all now, regardless of order.

I’d probably add in somebody like Davy Crockett to fill out the list.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-president-did-i-forget/365008/23 "2006-07-18T14:43:28Z")

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[QUOTE=Zeldar]  
Wasn’t he before FDR? If not, then yes I also forgot him. (Not the one I missed, though.)  
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The thing to note about Cleveland is that he was the 22nd and the 24th president, because he had two non-consecutive terms.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-president-did-i-forget/365008/24 "2006-07-18T14:45:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Dewey Finn]  
The thing to note about Cleveland is that he was the 22nd and the 24th president, because he had two non-consecutive terms.  
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Right. I think I remembered that.

Which one of the Harrisons was it to get sick during his inauguration speech and die shortly thereafter? Benjamin or William Henry?

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-president-did-i-forget/365008/25 "2006-07-18T14:47:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Caricci]  
Curse you, **Zeldar**! 😉

I love Presidents Carter and Clinton. They’re like the angel and devil on my shoulders and, as I tell my Republican husband, I’m still “reporting” to Clinton.  
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Oh, I’m definitely ashamed. But I did wonder if others might have dropped Jimma from their own list.

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**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-president-did-i-forget/365008/26 "2006-07-18T14:47:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Dewey Finn]  
The thing to note about Cleveland is that he was the 22nd and the 24th president, because he had two non-consecutive terms.  
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And there’s a yearly ice-cream social in the house he was born in. I’ve never actually been, but I’ve noticed it while stopping at the Dunkin’ Donuts across the street. 😃

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**Author:** ![Caricci](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Caricci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caricci)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-president-did-i-forget/365008/27 "2006-07-18T14:51:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Zeldar]  
Tell me about it. It’s just that I came in with FDR, so I have firsthand experience with that particular crowd. In school I could name them all, in order, all the way back. I doubt if I could name them all now, regardless of order.

I’d probably add in somebody like Davy Crockett to fill out the list.  
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For me, it’s like Washington, Adams, Monroe, Jefferson, duhhhhhhhhhhhh, Lincoln, duhhhhhh, Cleveland, duh,Cleveland, duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II.

I’m begging you all not to ask me what my degree is in. Begging.

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**Author:** ![Caricci](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Caricci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caricci)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-president-did-i-forget/365008/28 "2006-07-18T14:53:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Draelin]  
And there’s a yearly ice-cream social in the house he was born in. I’ve never actually been, but I’ve noticed it while stopping at the Dunkin’ Donuts across the street. 😃  
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Mmmmm. Did you get one of their delicious caramel swirl iced lattes?

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**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-president-did-i-forget/365008/29 "2006-07-18T14:57:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Caricci]  
For me, it’s like Washington, Adams, Monroe, Jefferson, duhhhhhhhhhhhh, Lincoln, duhhhhhh, Cleveland, duh,Cleveland, duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II.  
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Oooh ooh, wait–Washington, Adams, _then_ Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Adams the Sequel …

Yeah. That’s all I got.

And I probably _did_ get the caramel iced latte. 🙂

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**Author:** ![scotandrsn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@scotandrsn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scotandrsn)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-president-did-i-forget/365008/30 "2006-07-18T15:00:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Zeldar]  
Right. I think I remembered that.

Which one of the Harrisons was it to get sick during his inauguration speech and die shortly thereafter? Benjamin or William Henry?  
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That would be William Henry.

Benjamin was one of line of presidents in the late nineteenth century who are easy to forget because the prevailing attitude of the time was to limit presidential influence and power relative to Congress and the Courts, resulting in very few memorable presidential acts from the period. If Congress didn’t suck so bad right now, too, I might be nostaligic for such a period… :eek:

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-president-did-i-forget/365008/31 "2006-07-18T15:06:12Z")

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What always amazes me is when I see graphs or charts of USA history and note that the timeline begins in the early 1500’s (1492, if you like the Columbus portion) but that we didn’t have a president until the late 1700’s. So we’ve been just over half our history with presidents and already we’re being compared to the Roman Empire with how long we’ll last. Look at the European systems that have lasted 1,000 years or more. And China. And even the Egyptians lasted a long time.

Do we panic too easily?

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**Author:** ![Caricci](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Caricci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caricci)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-president-did-i-forget/365008/32 "2006-07-18T15:09:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Zeldar]  
Right. I think I remembered that.

Which one of the Harrisons was it to get sick during his inauguration speech and die shortly thereafter? Benjamin or William Henry?  
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Okay, I have a question about that. How come you can’t get a cold from being cold, but you could back then?

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-president-did-i-forget/365008/33 "2006-07-18T15:10:19Z")

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[QUOTE=scotandrsn]  
That would be William Henry.

Benjamin was one of line of presidents in the late nineteenth century who are easy to forget because the prevailing attitude of the time was to limit presidential influence and power relative to Congress and the Courts, resulting in very few memorable presidential acts from the period. If Congress didn’t suck so bad right now, too, I might be nostaligic for such a period… :eek:  
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For my money, the Courts suck, too. We need an old-fashioned revolution with guns and such. This Democracy thing isn’t doing its job. “The People Rule” my ass.

But wait. We can’t do that. Not enough guns in the private sector. My bad…

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-president-did-i-forget/365008/34 "2006-07-18T15:12:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Caricci]  
Okay, I have a question about that. How come you can’t get a cold from being cold, but you could back then?  
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Maybe nowadays you have to get cold and have some germs bother you, too?  
Maybe back then they didn’t allow for the germs.

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**Author:** ![scotandrsn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@scotandrsn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scotandrsn)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-president-did-i-forget/365008/35 "2006-07-18T15:15:00Z")

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[QUOTE=Draelin]  
Oooh ooh, wait–Washington, Adams, _then_ Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Adams the Sequel …

Yeah. That’s all I got.

And I probably _did_ get the caramel iced latte. 🙂  
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Ah, another opportunity to rid my mind of some useless junk by sharing it with others.

My Mom used to have an old paperbook from the fifties called the Cool Book, whcih gave advice to teenagers of the time on how to be cool.

Their advice, if ever asked in history class to name the first several presidents in order, was to use to use the ever-so-intuitive and natural mnemonic, “When A Jolly Man Meets A Jolly Vamp, Hot Time Pop”.

So when I try to rattle them off, I at least get

Washington  
Adams  
Jefferson  
Monroe or Madison  
Monroe or Madison  
Adams  
Jackson  
Van Buren  
Harrison  
Tyler  
Polk

then,  
duuuuuuh  
Lincoln  
Johnson  
duuuuhhhhh  
eerrmmrmrmBenjamin Harrison (my wife’s related to the Harrison presidents)rmrmrmrrmrmrm\*  
McKinley  
Roosevelt  
duuuuuuhhhhhh  
oooooohWilsonaaaaaaah\*\*  
Hoover  
FDR  
Truman  
Eisenhower  
Kennedy  
Johnson  
Nixon  
Ford  
Carter  
Reagan  
Bush  
Clinton  
Bush

\*Some combination or other of Grant, Arthur, Buchanan, Hayes, Clevland (twice), Garfield, and maybe a couple of others

\*\*some combination or other of Harding, Taft, Coolidge, maybe someone else

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**Author:** ![Caricci](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Caricci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caricci)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-president-did-i-forget/365008/36 "2006-07-18T15:16:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Zeldar]  
Maybe nowadays you have to get cold and have some germs bother you, too?  
Maybe back then they didn’t allow for the germs.  
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You could be right! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Caricci](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Caricci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caricci)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-president-did-i-forget/365008/37 "2006-07-18T15:19:21Z")

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[QUOTE=scotandrsn]  
Ah, another opportunity to rid my mind of some useless junk by sharing it with others.

My Mom used to have an old paperbook from the fifties called the Cool Book, whcih gave advice to teenagers of the time on how to be cool.

Their advice, if ever asked in history class to name the first several presidents in order, was to use to use the ever-so-intuitive and natural mnemonic, “When A Jolly Man Meets A Jolly Vamp, Hot Time Pop”.

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That’s pretty much the funniest thing I’ve ever heard. Did that book have anything about, I don’t know, owning a fast car or anything?  
Seriously, “Hot Time Pop”?

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-president-did-i-forget/365008/38 "2006-07-18T15:20:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Dewey Finn]  
The thing to note about Cleveland is that he was the 22nd and the 24th president, because he had two non-consecutive terms.  
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[Grandpa Simpson]

When I was a pup, we got spanked by Presidents till the cows came home. Grover Cleveland spanked me on two nonconsecutive occasions.

[/G S]

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-president-did-i-forget/365008/39 "2006-07-18T15:22:51Z")

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[QUOTE=scotandrsn]  
Ah, another opportunity to rid my mind of some useless junk by sharing it with others.

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If I may, I’d like to offer this as a replacement for the subtitle for MPSIMS. So much more to the point.

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**Author:** ![scotandrsn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@scotandrsn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scotandrsn)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-president-did-i-forget/365008/40 "2006-07-18T15:25:54Z")

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[QUOTE=Caricci]  
That’s pretty much the funniest thing I’ve ever heard. Did that book have anything about, I don’t know, owning a fast car or anything?  
[/QUOTE]

Maybe, it’s been a while.

[QUOTE=Caricci]  
Seriously, “Hot Time Pop”?  
[/QUOTE]

Sound more like something from the Twenties to me. But then again, I haven’t laid eyes on the book in about twenty-five years, and that damn stupid phrase is still in my head, so I guess they were on to something… :dubious:

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