# Which presidential candidate would you vote for, long shot division
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-presidential-candidate-would-you-vote-for-long-shot-division/398900
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion
**Created:** [April 5, 2007, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-presidential-candidate-would-you-vote-for-long-shot-division/398900 "2007-04-05T20:41:15Z")
**Posts on this page:** 13
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### Author:  [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2007, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-presidential-candidate-would-you-vote-for-long-shot-division/398900/21 "2007-04-06T03:11:44Z")
[QUOTE=alanak]
I’m also a big fan of Richardson. I’m still not sure why he doesn’t have the popularity that he deserves. He’s not a particularly odd ball candidate either. It just seems the media seems to focus on Clinton/Obama.
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He’s a governor, so it’s not as easy for him to get in the spotlight; Senators are national politicians, but governors are far better known in their own states.
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### Author:  [@Leviosaurus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leviosaurus)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2007, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-presidential-candidate-would-you-vote-for-long-shot-division/398900/22 "2007-04-06T04:50:23Z")
[QUOTE=5 time champ]
Nope, 12th Amendment
> **[12th Amendment](https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxii)**
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Reread the 22nd.
[QUOTE=22nd amendment]
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice,
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He isn’t constitutionally ineligble to hold office of the President. He’s constitutionally ineligble to run for election, period.
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### Author:  [@Leviosaurus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leviosaurus)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2007, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-presidential-candidate-would-you-vote-for-long-shot-division/398900/23 "2007-04-06T05:25:50Z")
[QUOTE=Leviosaurus]
He isn’t constitutionally ineligble to hold office of the President. He’s constitutionally ineligble to run for election, period.
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The more I think this over, the more certain I am that I am entirely correct on this. If you were right that Clinton could never hold office again, would it follow that he could never serve as Secretary of State, should he be selected? If he were to follow John Quincy Adams example and run for a seat in the House, would he be ineligible to serve as speaker, because that position is also in the [line of secession](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_line_of_succession)? Wouldn’t it follow that if every man woman and child in the US suddenly dropped dead and the only two survivors were Bill Clinton and a street bum, would the street bum automatically become President because Clinton served already?
Bullshit bullshit bullshit! The 22nd amendment only prevents a president from _winning election twice_. It was specifically written that way so that past presidents could be re-appointed in the case of a crisis. This loophole means that Bill Clinton could run for Vice President if he wanted to.
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### Author:  [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2007, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-presidential-candidate-would-you-vote-for-long-shot-division/398900/24 "2007-04-06T06:31:53Z")
[QUOTE=Captain Carrot]
He’s a governor, so it’s not as easy for him to get in the spotlight; Senators are national politicians, but governors are far better known in their own states.
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How hard is it for governors to get in the spotlight? Of out last 5 presidents, 4 rose to the presidency from a governorship. I think you need to rethink your hypothesis.
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### Author:  [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2007, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-presidential-candidate-would-you-vote-for-long-shot-division/398900/25 "2007-04-06T06:49:49Z")
[QUOTE=Leviosaurus]
The more I think this over, the more certain I am that I am entirely correct on this. If you were right that Clinton could never hold office again, would it follow that he could never serve as Secretary of State, should he be selected? If he were to follow John Quincy Adams example and run for a seat in the House, would he be ineligible to serve as speaker, because that position is also in the [line of secession](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_line_of_succession)?
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This (or variations of it) have been done to death in GQ. Clinton could be SoS the same way Madeline Albright and Richard Kissenger could be: Were the SoS to be in a position to become President, the process would simply skip over them and go to the next person in line.
Were Clinton/Gore to attempt what you propose, it would backfire badly. Even if Zombi Hitler were to win the GOP nom, you wouldn’t be able to get Gore elected a third time. It’s also bad for the country, tying up presidential experience into so few individuals.
Personally, I’m voting for Obama.
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### Author:  [@Gentle\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gentle_Robot)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2007, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-presidential-candidate-would-you-vote-for-long-shot-division/398900/26 "2007-04-06T07:01:16Z")
Russell Feingold. In a heartbeat.
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### Author:  [@NinjaChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinjaChick)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2007, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-presidential-candidate-would-you-vote-for-long-shot-division/398900/27 "2007-04-06T19:11:30Z")
[QUOTE=Doug Bowe]
I don’t think he has a chance, but from watching him close up I’d favor [Bill Richardson](http://richardsonforpresident.com/).
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Ditto. I believe he has, by a huge margin, the most international diplomacy experience of anyone who’s running, which I think is rather important.
The only thing I’m a bit wary of is his stance on abstinence-only sex ed; it’s been something of an issue here in NM. Barring that, I’m all for him. Regrettably, he’s the governor of a tiny state which, in my experience, people tend to forget/not know it’s actually part of the US, so…bleh.
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### Author:  [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2007, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-presidential-candidate-would-you-vote-for-long-shot-division/398900/28 "2007-04-06T19:17:34Z")
Michael Bloomberg
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### Author:  [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2007, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-presidential-candidate-would-you-vote-for-long-shot-division/398900/29 "2007-04-06T20:06:22Z")
[QUOTE=DrDeth]
Yes, **Al Gore.** But somebody will have to muzzle Nader this time around, eh?
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Even if he runs, he won’t spoil Gore’s chances this time. The people who voted for him in 2000 have learned their lesson. After all, how many votes did Nader get in 2004?
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### Author:  [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2007, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-presidential-candidate-would-you-vote-for-long-shot-division/398900/30 "2007-04-06T20:24:59Z")
[QUOTE=Weirddave]
I think we can all agree that the field of contenders isn’t real exciting at the top of either party.
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Sorry, but we can’t all agree. I find both Edwards and Obama to be pretty exciting, and from others, I’m hearing a lot of excitement about both of them (which I can understand) and even about Hillary (which I can’t).
Sorry to undermine the assumption on which the OP is based, but such is life.
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### Author:  [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2007, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-presidential-candidate-would-you-vote-for-long-shot-division/398900/31 "2007-04-06T21:36:35Z")
A fourth vote for Richardson. He’s got a hell of a lot of experience, including much more foreign policy experience than governors usually have. He seems moderate and sane. I don’t know a lot about him, but I like what I see so far.
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### Author:  [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2007, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-presidential-candidate-would-you-vote-for-long-shot-division/398900/32 "2007-04-06T22:22:21Z")
[QUOTE=RTFirefly]
Sorry, but we can’t all agree. I find both Edwards and Obama to be pretty exciting, and from others, I’m hearing a lot of excitement about both of them (which I can understand) and even about Hillary (which I can’t).
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edited as inappropriate for IMHO
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### Author:  [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2007, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-presidential-candidate-would-you-vote-for-long-shot-division/398900/33 "2007-04-06T22:24:03Z")
Oh, crap, I’m in IMHO, not the pit. My last post is inappropriate for this forum. Apologies mods.
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