# Which ST:TOS episodes have aged most poorly? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, star-trek-paramount\ **Created:** [December 29, 2022, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-st-tos-episodes-have-aged-most-poorly/977282 "2022-12-29T15:00:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-st-tos-episodes-have-aged-most-poorly/977282/161 "2023-01-13T00:12:43Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > I don’t think being “inhumane” was really a consideration as they had to get them off the station one way or another and was really just an F-you to the Klingons. The wrap-up conversation was about the tribbles on the Enterprise. The tribbles on the starbase were entirely the responsibility of Cyrano Jones. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-st-tos-episodes-have-aged-most-poorly/977282/162 "2023-01-13T00:15:23Z")
re: Tribbles - you should all watch the trek short - ‘The Trouble with Edward’. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-st-tos-episodes-have-aged-most-poorly/977282/163 "2023-01-13T00:41:34Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > It’s the idea that you can subdue and make a woman devoted to you by raping her. That she will realize her true bliss and see you as her sun and moon and stars. See the famous staircase scene in _Gone With the Wind._ ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-st-tos-episodes-have-aged-most-poorly/977282/164 "2023-01-13T01:08:05Z")
Perhaps True Love is just a variation on Stockholm Syndrome? ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-st-tos-episodes-have-aged-most-poorly/977282/165 "2023-01-13T01:17:51Z")
Some non-trivial fraction of men would certainly wish it were so. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-st-tos-episodes-have-aged-most-poorly/977282/166 "2023-01-13T01:48:43Z")
To me, the Khan/McGiver thing looked like a standard male predator, manipulating his victim. Kirk probably should not have let her go to Ceti Alpha, but by that time, she had already committed mutiny, and possibly treason. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.E](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.e/32/8932_2.png) [@Mr.E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.E)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-st-tos-episodes-have-aged-most-poorly/977282/167 "2023-01-13T01:59:22Z")
My headcanon has always been that Tribbles are basically giant single-celled microbes. Their “hair” is cilia that allows for respiration, locomotion, and consuption, and they reproduce via horizontal gene transfer and budding. Behaviorally, they’re the same as their smaller cousins, only reacting to basic stimuli like warmth, food, and Klingons. One problem with this is Bones explaining that they’re “Born pregnant” but it’s fairly easy to wave away as Bones’ folksy way of saying “Tribbles can bud offspring immediately, and in fact tribble buds will themselves already be budding if food is plentiful enough.” ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-st-tos-episodes-have-aged-most-poorly/977282/168 "2023-01-13T02:06:21Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > Ah, but you forget the Jeffries Tube gap! Gentlemen, you can’t stay here, this is the Transporter Room! > [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Riker: “Uhhh… it’s still\* moving.” > Klag: “Tribble is always best when served live.” That gagh that Riker was eating was already bite-sized, more or less. Eating a live tribble seems problematic; it’s more than a mouthful, and fuzzy. Seems like they’d need to be fileted before eating, or at least plucked. > [@msmith537](#): > > I was under the impression that the tribbles, although cute, were actually pretty dangerous as they were reproducing exponentially and consuming all the food? McCoy says at the end of the episode that you can stop tribbles from reproducing if you stop feeding them. That’s why I thought they’d be a good food source on Klingon ships. Keep some tribbles in a very secure vault on their ship. When you pass a planet, beam up some vegetation into the vault. The tribbles happily chow down and a few days later they’ve got fresh meat for the whole crew. It’s like grazing and slaughtering cattle, but with no labor or overhead. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-st-tos-episodes-have-aged-most-poorly/977282/169 "2023-01-13T02:19:34Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Some non-trivial fraction of men would certainly wish it were so. Yeah. Maybe in that sense it hasn’t aged all that much. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-st-tos-episodes-have-aged-most-poorly/977282/170 "2023-01-13T02:52:13Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Eating a live tribble seems problematic; it’s more than a mouthful, and fuzzy. Seems like they’d need to be fileted before eating, or at least plucked. You just put a small slit in the bottom and pop it inside out into your mouth. Then you flip it back around and send it to the taxidermist to make into pillow stuffing. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-st-tos-episodes-have-aged-most-poorly/977282/171 "2023-01-13T03:52:00Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > You just put a small slit in the bottom and pop it inside out into your mouth. Tribble haggis? ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-st-tos-episodes-have-aged-most-poorly/977282/172 "2023-01-13T04:49:11Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > I revise my answer to: Luke and Laura. If you mean this one, you’re not alone. [General Hospital’s Genie Francis Won’t ‘Defend’ Laura’s Rape Scene (people.com)](https://people.com/tv/general-hospital-genie-francis-wont-defend-controversial-rape-scene-anymore/) OTOH, to be fair, Stockholm Syndrome is a term coined by the media, and science remains divided on its legitimacy. [Stockholm syndrome - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome#Criticism) ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2023, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-st-tos-episodes-have-aged-most-poorly/977282/173 "2023-01-14T07:21:05Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Eating a live tribble seems problematic; it’s more than a mouthful, and fuzzy. Seems like they’d need to be fileted before eating, or at least plucked. The tribble episode on The Animated Series revolved around a tribble predator that the Klingons found, so something likes to eat them. IIRC, it came from Gerrold’s script submitted but never aired on TOS season 3. (Source is Mission Log.) ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2023, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-st-tos-episodes-have-aged-most-poorly/977282/174 "2023-01-14T14:23:04Z")
I remember that, it was a spiderish looking thing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-st-tos-episodes-have-aged-most-poorly/977282.md?page=8)