# Which "summer" movie will make the most 2016

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**Created:** [March 21, 2016, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-summer-movie-will-make-the-most-2016/749768 "2016-03-21T14:30:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Did you know the first Alice movie (2010) almost out-earned the first two Captain America movies combined?

It was also marketed more and had the added benefit of having a title that is familiar to a great many people.

I don’t think “Through the Looking Glass” has as much resonance as a book as the original Alice did (it certainly didn’t with me, I HATED TTLG). Not to mention they didn’t make a world-famous Disney movie out it.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-summer-movie-will-make-the-most-2016/749768/22 "2016-03-23T23:48:05Z")

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Marvel Comics movies seem to make ridiculous amounts of money so I voted for the Captain America one. I’ve no plans to see it and lost interest in them a long time ago but one cannot deny that they rake in the bucks. However,

[QUOTE=silenus]  
Civil War in a walk. None of the others will get within 15% of its gross.  
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Uh… are you literally saying no other movie will make even 15% what “Civil War” will make?

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**Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-summer-movie-will-make-the-most-2016/749768/23 "2016-03-23T23:56:03Z")

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I think Disney/Marvel may be overdoing it with the comic book movies and expect the interest in them to wane soon. At the same time, DC doesn’t seem to have learned that their movies need to be less dark; Batman v Superman looks too serious and dark, while the Marvel films seem lighter and more fun.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-summer-movie-will-make-the-most-2016/749768/24 "2016-03-24T00:01:51Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Marvel Comics movies seem to make ridiculous amounts of money so I voted for the Captain America one. I’ve no plans to see it and lost interest in them a long time ago but one cannot deny that they rake in the bucks. However,  
> Uh… are you literally saying no other movie will make even 15% what “Civil War” will make?

I think he means that if Civil War makes 100m no other movie will make more than 84.9m.

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**Post date:** [April 6, 2016, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-summer-movie-will-make-the-most-2016/749768/25 "2016-04-06T14:07:25Z")

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Batman v Superman had an amazing opening. The first weekend it pulled in ~166m but had a huge drop the second weekend with a domestic total of 263m.

Worldwide, however, it’s crossing 680m so far.

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**Post date:** [April 6, 2016, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-summer-movie-will-make-the-most-2016/749768/26 "2016-04-06T16:18:05Z")

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I think Captain America will be the one.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-summer-movie-will-make-the-most-2016/749768/27 "2016-04-06T18:10:52Z")

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I think it’ll be **Finding Dory**. It’ll pull in the adults for the nostalgia and the kids who grew up on Captain Nemo.

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**Post date:** [April 6, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-summer-movie-will-make-the-most-2016/749768/28 "2016-04-06T18:17:19Z")

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I chose Finding Civil War originally, then I switched to Finding Dory.  
I’m personally experiencing “superhero movie” fatigue, and I’m sure I’m not the only one. It’s even worse now that superhero movies have decided to go a lot darker than in the past. Geez I go to movies to be entertained not to feel depressed!

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**Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-summer-movie-will-make-the-most-2016/749768/29 "2016-04-07T16:32:08Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> I think it’ll be **Finding Dory**. It’ll pull in the adults for the nostalgia and the kids who grew up on Captain Nemo.

Pretty sure the kids that grew up on [Captain Nemo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty_Thousand_Leagues_Under_the_Sea) would be in the Nostalgic Adults demographic. 🙂

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**Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-summer-movie-will-make-the-most-2016/749768/30 "2016-04-07T23:17:43Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> Batman v Superman had an amazing opening. The first weekend it pulled in ~166m but had a huge drop the second weekend with a domestic total of 263m.
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> Worldwide, however, it’s crossing 680m so far.

One day later, it just passed CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLDIER by passing $720m; I’m still expecting bigger things from CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR, but danged if DC’s superhero throwdown isn’t a force to be reckoned with.

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**Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-summer-movie-will-make-the-most-2016/749768/31 "2016-04-13T03:25:20Z")

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Not too sure but I went against the majority and voted for Superman vs Batman.

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**Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-summer-movie-will-make-the-most-2016/749768/32 "2016-04-13T03:54:53Z")

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> [@MovieMogul](#):
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> FINDING NEMO is the biggest money-maker Pixar has ever had (adjusting for inflation), so I’m betting on the sequel.

I always bet on the kid friendly movies. Huge audience, maybe repeat business. You might not pick the winner, but you’ll be. close.

Finding Dory.

Captain America is gonna be huge too, but both of these are a little like predicting water will be wet.

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**Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-summer-movie-will-make-the-most-2016/749768/33 "2016-04-13T03:56:06Z")

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I’ve said before you can’t just judge the success of a movie by how much it makes; you have to consider how much it cost to be made as well. A $50,000,000 movie that makes $200,000,000 is a bigger success than a $300,000,000 movie that makes $250,000,000.

So here are some of 2016’s movies with their domestic ticket sales divided by their production budget:

Deadpool - 6.19  
Miracles from Heaven - 4.15  
The Boy - 3.58  
The Forest - 2.66  
Ride Along 2 - 2.27  
Risen - 1.85  
Hail, Caesar! - 1.36  
How to Be Single - 1.24  
Batman v Superman - 1.19  
13 Hours - 1.06  
London Has Fallen - 1.01  
The 5th Wave - 0.91  
Eddie the Eagle - 0.68  
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot - 0.65  
Pride and Prejudice and Zombies - 0.39  
Gods of Egypt - 0.22

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**Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-summer-movie-will-make-the-most-2016/749768/34 "2016-04-13T11:51:43Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I’ve said before you can’t just judge the success of a movie by how much it makes; you have to consider how much it cost to be made as well. A $50,000,000 movie that makes $200,000,000 is a bigger success than a $300,000,000 movie that makes $250,000,000.
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> So here are some of 2016’s movies with their domestic ticket sales divided by their production budget:
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> Deadpool - 6.19  
> Miracles from Heaven - 4.15  
> The Boy - 3.58  
> The Forest - 2.66  
> Ride Along 2 - 2.27  
> Risen - 1.85  
> Hail, Caesar! - 1.36  
> How to Be Single - 1.24  
> Batman v Superman - 1.19  
> 13 Hours - 1.06  
> London Has Fallen - 1.01  
> The 5th Wave - 0.91  
> Eddie the Eagle - 0.68  
> Whiskey Tango Foxtrot - 0.65  
> Pride and Prejudice and Zombies - 0.39  
> Gods of Egypt - 0.22

Why _domestic_ ticket sales? Sure, domestically **The 5th Wave** has only pulled in $34 million on a $38 million budget – but worldwide, it’s pulled in $107 million so far. (And it doesn’t come out in Japan until later this month – but that’s not going to matter to your metric; it could flop there, or be the biggest hit ever, and no difference would be made.)

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**Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-summer-movie-will-make-the-most-2016/749768/35 "2016-04-13T12:03:44Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Man, this was a slam-dunk last year. And then it wasn’t.
> 
> I’m going off-road here with Alice Through the Looking Glass.

The previous movie made over a billion world-wide, so it’s not a bad bet, which is why I voted for Alice as well.

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**Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-summer-movie-will-make-the-most-2016/749768/36 "2016-04-13T14:43:52Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Why _domestic_ ticket sales? Sure, domestically **The 5th Wave** has only pulled in $34 million on a $38 million budget – but worldwide, it’s pulled in $107 million so far. (And it doesn’t come out in Japan until later this month – but that’s not going to matter to your metric; it could flop there, or be the biggest hit ever, and no difference would be made.)

Okay. Here’s the same list of movies, using international ticket sales rather than just domestic. (I left out the two movies which apparently have not had international releases.)

Deadpool - 13.05  
Miracles from Heaven - 4.56  
The Forest - 3.76  
Batman v Superman - 3.14  
Ride Along 2 - 3.06  
The 5th Wave - 2.82  
Hail, Caesar! - 2.79  
How to Be Single - 2.58  
Risen - 2.23  
London Has Fallen - 2.14  
13 Hours - 1.36  
Eddie the Eagle - 0.98  
Gods of Egypt - 0.98  
Pride and Prejudice and Zombies - 0.59

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**Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-summer-movie-will-make-the-most-2016/749768/37 "2016-04-13T19:06:07Z")

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I’m playing the longshot that Sausage Party becomes a cult hit.

How could you go wrong with a title like that?

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**Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-summer-movie-will-make-the-most-2016/749768/38 "2016-04-13T21:03:34Z")

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Cap 3 FTW. I am thinking Suicide Squad will be a close second.

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**Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-summer-movie-will-make-the-most-2016/749768/39 "2016-04-14T00:43:40Z")

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> [@Mixolydian](#):
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> I’m playing the longshot that Sausage Party becomes a cult hit.
> 
> How could you go wrong with a title like that?

It could very well become a cult hit. The trailer is funny and different.

But I can’t see it becoming a mainstream hit.

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**Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-summer-movie-will-make-the-most-2016/749768/40 "2016-04-14T01:01:32Z")

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> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#):
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> Cap 3 FTW. I am thinking Suicide Squad will be a close second.

I’m curious why people think that Suicide Squad is primed to do better than either of the recent Superman movies, as well as every other R rated movie ever released in history.

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