# Which superhero flick will bomb the worst this year?

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**Created:** [April 2, 2011, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931 "2011-04-02T11:22:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2011, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/21 "2011-04-02T19:27:35Z")

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… shouldn’t that be “an interstellar alien corpse”?

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**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/22 "2011-04-02T19:31:20Z")

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I thought from the trailers that Thor looked pretty slick, and that Green Lantern looked _terrible_. So my vote would be Green Lantern, though I can also see Thor being too “out-there” and not as popular (revenue-wise), even if is the better movie.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/23 "2011-04-02T19:34:25Z")

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I voted for _Green Lantern_, although I’m interested in seeing it, and think it might be good. _Captain America_ I think is a pretty safe bet. Trailer looks good, and the concept seems solid. Plus, it and _Thor_ both have ties to the successful _Iron Man_ movies, and the upcoming _Avengers_ film, which give them enough of a quasi-sequel quality that it should help them out.

But the one I’m most expecting to fail, as others have pointed out, is the X-Men movie. The franchise is overworked, and nobody I’ve talked to thinks the concept behind it is any good. Also, it’s got some of the worst [movie](http://www.themarysue.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/First-Class-Posters-Are-Glorious-Photoshop-Fail-372x550.jpg) [posters](http://www.kittyspryde.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/xmen-first-class-teaser2.jpg) I’ve ever seen.

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2011, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/24 "2011-04-02T19:40:57Z")

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Yeah. I think the X-Men movie is going to bomb the worst. I didn’t even hear of it’s release date until a couple of weeks ago. And, I enjoy super hero movies, and super hero movie news. I just think it is under the radar as far as marketing goes compared to the others, and I don’t anticipate word of mouth on the film to bring the people in. I’ll most probably try to see all of them in the theater. I think I am most excited about Green Lantern. I am not a huge fan of the character, but I don’t mind him. I just think Ryan Reynolds is a great actor who has the charisma to carry a film really well. I don’t know the same about the leads in Captain America and Thor.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2011, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/25 "2011-04-02T20:28:41Z")

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Thor’s current trailer has Thor getting tased by a girl. Thor is going to bomb. A nobody playing a fourth-tier super for the sole purpose of getting him recognizable before he is an extra in the Avengers movie? Thor has no chance. At least non comic book people have heard of Green Lantern. Captain America will do well though.

No one will even notice the two weeks that X-men is in theaters before it is quietly pulled.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2011, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/26 "2011-04-02T20:37:48Z")

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Wonder Woman will probably do the worst of all if it comes out this year.

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**Author:** ![Dan\_Norder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4af34b/32.png) [@Dan\_Norder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dan_Norder)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/27 "2011-04-02T21:04:20Z")

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> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#):
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> A nobody playing a fourth-tier super for the sole purpose of getting him recognizable before he is an extra in the Avengers movie? Thor has no chance. At least non comic book people have heard of Green Lantern.

What kind of people would have heard of Green Lantern who wouldn’t also have heard of Thor? Not only is Thor the character fairly big name, but a lot of schools have classes with required reading about the original Thor. Green Lantern is solely a comic book creation, and an old and ridiculously named one at that. Plus the mental association with the recent bomb of the Green Hornet won’t help.

And… fourth-tier? You can’t even be serious. He’s either first tier or just barely misses that to be second tier. Green Lantern is at best second tier.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2011, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/28 "2011-04-02T21:45:34Z")

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> [@Dan\_Norder](#):
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> And… fourth-tier? You can’t even be serious. He’s either first tier or just barely misses that to be second tier. Green Lantern is at best second tier.

Thor is clearly second-tier or have you forgotten that the first tier includes names like Batman, Superman and Spider-Man?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2011, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/29 "2011-04-02T22:39:33Z")

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> Wonder Woman will probably do the worst of all if it comes out this year.

That’s a TV show, though, not a movie.

And the first tier of superheroes is Superman, Batman, and Spider-man, plus (at most) Wonder Woman, Captain America, and the Hulk. Everyone’s heard of and can recognize those first three, and a lot of folks will know of the next three, even if they can’t tell you much about them.

After that, I think it mostly depends on who’s had a movie or TV show about them recently: Most folks _now_ have heard of Wolverine and the X-Men, for instance, but they probably hadn’t before those movies started coming out. It’s the media that drives the popularity, more than the reverse: _Iron Man_ and _X-Men_ (the first couple, at least) were a lot more successful than you’d have predicted from their pre-movie popularity, because they were good movies. And, as a result, the characters in them are now more popular than the were before. So even if Thor is tier 3 right this moment, by this summer he may well be up to 2.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2011, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/30 "2011-04-02T22:49:35Z")

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When is there going to be a Flash movie? I always dug the Flash. He can run like a sumbitch. He was my favorite as a kid for some reason.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/31 "2011-04-03T00:22:29Z")

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Speaking of Green Lantern, there’s a new, less comedic, trailer out:

[http://io9.com/#!5788299/watch-the-green-lantern-footage-that-tore-the-roof-off-wondercon](http://io9.com/#!5788299/watch-the-green-lantern-footage-that-tore-the-roof-off-wondercon)

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/32 "2011-04-03T00:31:00Z")

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Both Thor and Green Lantern have a $150 million budget, so they have the same amount to lose.

I tend to think it will really come down to who made the better movie, something not knowable currently.

I’ll say **Thor** is the bigger bomb, only because Green Lantern is, to me, slightly more well known as a superhero. Then again, what do I know?

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**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/33 "2011-04-03T00:35:32Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> _Thor_ will do okay, because it has quality actors out the wazoo - Natalie Portman, Anthony Hopkins, Rene Russo, Stellan Skarsgard…

Hijack here.

I just watched Tin Cup on the late, late movie a couple of nights back, and was floored by what a stone-cold stunner Rene Russo is.

Seriously, I can’t recall a more classically beautiful, yet sexy as sin actress, and I don’t know why I had never noticed her before. (I am pretty sure I have seen her in another movie years ago, but have no idea what it might have been)

Anyone else think she is an auburn-haired Goddess, or do I get her all to myself?

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**Author:** ![Rainbowthief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4bbf92/32.png) [@Rainbowthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rainbowthief)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/34 "2011-04-03T00:48:18Z")

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Thor has the best chance to bomb because he may not be known to non -comic fans but I think the supporting cast and director could save it.

And there’s no way Thor and Green Lantern are fourth tier heroes that no one wants to see.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/35 "2011-04-03T02:43:21Z")

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Prior to being a comic book character Thor was a very well known:

**NORSE GOD**

Do you get that?

**NORSE GOD**

This may have given him some name recognition that the other two lack. There are OTHER media than comic books. Books, classrooms, etc. Look into it!

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/36 "2011-04-03T02:53:46Z")

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Hey, so is Frigga but she only gets depicted in porn.

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> Prior to being a comic book character Thor was a very well known:
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> **NORSE GOD**
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> Do you get that?
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> **NORSE GOD**
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> This may have given him some name recognition that the other two lack. There are OTHER media than comic books. Books, classrooms, etc. Look into it!

Except the movie is about the comic book Thor, not the Norse God. And honestly I bet more people (Americans at least) know about comic Thor than about god Thor.

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/38 "2011-04-03T03:23:50Z")

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> Prior to being a comic book character Thor was a very well known:
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> **NORSE GOD**

Hell, Thor is _the_ Norse God - if someone knows of no other Norse gods, they’ll know of Thor.

> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> Except the movie is about the comic book Thor, not the Norse God.

Comic book Thor is an alternate take on the same character - knowing who Norse mythology Thor is will tell you about comic book Thor.

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> And honestly I bet more people (Americans at least) know about comic Thor than about god Thor.

And I think that doesn’t even make sense. Mythological Thor is something pretty much _everyone_ knows about, but quite apart from that, how can more people know about comic Thor than mythological Thor, when anyone that finds out about comic Thor will know he’s based on a Norse god? It’s like saying more people know about black cats than know about cats.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/39 "2011-04-03T03:44:18Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> Comic book Thor is an alternate take on the same character - knowing who Norse mythology Thor is will tell you about comic book Thor.

Nothing particularly _accurate_, mind. For instance, Marvel’s Thor is a clean-shaven blond, and enemies for life with Loki, rather than a bearded red-head who occasionally comes into conflict with his buddy.

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/40 "2011-04-03T03:51:19Z")

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> [@Tengu](#):
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> Nothing particularly _accurate_, mind. For instance, Marvel’s Thor is a clean-shaven blond, and enemies for life with Loki, rather than a bearded red-head who occasionally comes into conflict with his buddy.

He’s the god of thunder. He has a magic hammer. What more do you need to know?

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