# Which superhero flick will bomb the worst this year? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 2, 2011, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931 "2011-04-02T11:22:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/121 "2011-07-06T19:59:40Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > I remember seeing the trailer to The Phantom Menace and thinking it looked brilliant. > [@devilsknew](#): > > I saw the CPT. America trailer and was not impressed. > [@devilsknew](#): > > Touche’. And that’s kind of my point though, as advertisements the trailers are supposed to bring people in, give them a feel for the film, create some buzz. As purely marketing tools your example of TPM seems to have done its job and worked well. The Cpt. America trailer didn’t seem to have done that for me… and especially not for the 16-23 year old demographic. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/122 "2011-07-06T22:31:20Z")
> [@devilsknew](#): > > And that’s kind of my point though, as advertisements the trailers are supposed to bring people in, give them a feel for the film, create some buzz. As purely marketing tools your example of TPM seems to have done its job and worked well. > > The Cpt. America trailer didn’t seem to have done that for me… and especially not for the 16-23 year old demographic. Odd, everyone else I have talked to both online and IRL said the trailer had them psyched to see the movie. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/123 "2011-07-06T22:38:07Z")
My problem with the CA trailer is a nitpicky one… unless my sense of perspective is all screwed up and I missed the fact that he was a midget, the “too small to be in the army” guy seemed, in fact, about average height and weight for a 1942-era American male coming off 13 years of Great Depression. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/124 "2011-07-06T22:42:49Z")
Oh, I think it will do pretty well, but I’ve noticed their advertising is pretty light on TV. How old are you and your peers? Over/under thirty? I think it will probably come in somewhere between Thor and X-men, maybe. Probably beat out Green Lantern, but will it be the next Iron man or Spiderman?.. probably not. ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/125 "2011-07-07T00:19:00Z")
You also have to consider overseas and worldwide take. I can’t see Captain America doing as well as Thor in that arena. ---
**Author:** ![BunnyTVS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BunnyTVS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BunnyTVS)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/126 "2011-07-07T01:15:02Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > My problem with the CA trailer is a nitpicky one… unless my sense of perspective is all screwed up and I missed the fact that he was a midget, the “too small to be in the army” guy seemed, in fact, about average height and weight for a 1942-era American male coming off 13 years of Great Depression. 😉 My problem with the trailer was that the short, skinny, CGI’d Chris Evans just looked _freaky_. With that thin body and pointy face he kinda looked like a steretypical grey alien (but pinker). ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/127 "2011-07-07T03:35:16Z")
Box Offixe Mojo page on this (they include Priest) > **[Summer 2011 Comic Book Bash - Box Office Mojo](https://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdown/sd3627939332/)** Based on thise stats, it looks like Thor will beat Green Lantern (Thor had a better opening weekend AND a better 2nd weekend drop) Brian ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/128 "2011-07-07T11:49:24Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > Box Offixe Mojo page on this (they include Priest) > > [http://boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?id=summer11comicvs.htm](http://boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?id=summer11comicvs.htm) > > Based on thise stats, it looks like Thor will beat Green Lantern (Thor had a better opening weekend AND a better 2nd weekend drop) > > Brian One thing I did notice is that Green Lantern [hasn’t debuted in Europe yet](http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=greenlantern.htm). So the box office there could bring it to break even. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/129 "2011-07-07T13:17:07Z")
> [@Spoke](#): > > One thing I did notice is that Green Lantern [hasn’t debuted in Europe yet](http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=greenlantern.htm). So the box office there could bring it to break even. Not Europe-wide, but it has in some areas, notably the UK and Ireland. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/130 "2011-07-07T13:57:06Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > Not Europe-wide, but it has in some areas, notably the UK and Ireland. True, but: Australia, Brazil, France, Germany, Italy, Mexico, South Korea, and Spain [each produced between $10 million and $20 million in gross receipts for Thor](http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=thor.htm). Green Lantern hasn’t yet debuted in any of those countries, and to date it has grossed about $137 million worldwide (against its budget of $200 million). All I am saying is that when Green Lantern is in full release worldwide it could easily reach and exceed its break-even point. (Before DVD sales.) Even though I thought Green Lantern was mediocre, I am rooting for the film to turn a decent profit. Mainly because I am an old comic book geek who would welcome yet a few more super hero films. Bring on Flash! Bring on Aquaman! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/131 "2011-07-07T14:01:54Z")
Oh, and how about an animated take on Captain Marvel? He is cartoon-y enough to seem suited to that treatment. Shazam! ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/132 "2011-07-07T14:38:35Z")
> [@Spoke](#): > > True, but: Australia, Brazil, France, Germany, Italy, Mexico, South Korea, and Spain [each produced between $10 million and $20 million in gross receipts for Thor](http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=thor.htm). > > Green Lantern hasn’t yet debuted in any of those countries, and to date it has grossed about $137 million worldwide (against its budget of $200 million). > > All I am saying is that when Green Lantern is in full release worldwide it could easily reach and exceed its break-even point. (Before DVD sales.) I’m not so sure. Allegedly the marketing budget for Green Lantern was 100 million, making the true cost of the film closer to 300 million. By your figures they’re not even halfway there yet. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/133 "2011-07-07T14:46:28Z")
Fair point. I hadn’t considered the marketing budget. ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/134 "2011-07-23T01:02:26Z")
Well, going into this opening weekend for Capt. America things don’t look too good. It has been pretty much panned and gotten critical or average reviews which I had sort of deduced from the trailer. Seems like a stinker… ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/135 "2011-07-23T01:28:09Z")
71% fresh is “pretty much panned”? ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/136 "2011-07-23T01:28:19Z")
> [@devilsknew](#): > > Well, going into this opening weekend for Capt. America things don’t look too good. It has been pretty much panned and gotten critical or average reviews which I had sort of deduced from the trailer. Seems like a stinker… Actually, it has 71% rating from Rotten Tomatoes and has received good to excellent reviews. ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2011, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/137 "2011-07-24T06:44:06Z")
Well, the local review gave it two and a half stars. That’s a C- almost a D in my book. The problems seem to be that is a disjointed “montage”. No meat, where’s the beef and action?. Simply a construction for the upcoming Avengers Movie. No true story or conscience… very cheezy/ Sorry, not my kind of movie in this barrenland of 3-D, CGI, and shorthand of poor modern drama and story. It has nothing to tie it together. It is a flawed movie and I bet the box office will reflect that. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2011, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/138 "2011-07-24T12:52:54Z")
> [@devilsknew](#): > > Well, the local review gave it two and a half stars. That’s a C- almost a D in my book. The problems seem to be that is a disjointed “montage”. No meat, where’s the beef and action?. Simply a construction for the upcoming Avengers Movie. No true story or conscience… very cheezy/ Sorry, not my kind of movie in this barrenland of 3-D, CGI, and shorthand of poor modern drama and story. It has nothing to tie it together. It is a flawed movie and I bet the box office will reflect that. Your local review is what we call “anecdotal evidence.” RottenTomatoes has it at 73% with an audience rating of 86%, and Metacritic has it at 67%. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2011, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/139 "2011-07-24T14:33:26Z")
I saw Captain America last night and really enjoyed it. It wasn’t the best movie I’ve ever seen, but it entertained me. And being entertained for a couple hours is all I look for in a movie. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2011, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931/140 "2011-07-24T16:11:09Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > Your local review is what we call “anecdotal evidence.” RottenTomatoes has it at 73% with an audience rating of 86%, and Metacritic has it at 67%. To provide some perspective for these numbers _Captain America_ is rating 73%/86% _Thor_ rated 77%/80% _Green Lantern_ rated 26%/54% Those numbers bode well for the movie’s success. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-superhero-flick-will-bomb-the-worst-this-year/576931.md?page=8)