# Which TV and movie casts absolutely despised each other?

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**Created:** [October 23, 2011, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-tv-and-movie-casts-absolutely-despised-each-other/600526 "2011-10-23T12:03:21Z")\
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> [@Ibanez](#):
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> Amanda Pete says David Duchovny is a [diva.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK6LrzRJERA)

I think I just experienced my first whoosh.

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These are some great little anecdotes; thanks for posting, and keep 'em coming!

To that end, I’ve heard tell (I think this may have even been mentioned in the doco _The Godfather Family: A Look Inside_, or maybe it was in a contemporaneous Entertainment Weekly article, I’m not sure) that Al Pacino and Diane Keaton started having a torrid affair and broke up during the filming of The Godfather, Part III, and that that made some shooting days rather … uncomfortable.

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-tv-and-movie-casts-absolutely-despised-each-other/600526/23 "2011-10-23T19:28:34Z")

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> I read an interview where Debra Winger said she couldn’t stand Richard Gere when they were filming An Officer and a Genleman. She said that those scenes that looked so passionate were really her trying not to throw up. (Or something to that effect.)

Who did Debra Winger actually enjoy working with? I’ve got an old interview she did with Vanity Fair, and it mentions her having quarrels with Robert Redford, Shirley McLaine, and most of her directors (one whom she refers to as “an animal”). Funny thing is that most people outside the industry say she treated them great.

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> Then there was the sordid story of Sonny and Cher. Even after she started cheating on him with Greg Allman they maintained their on-air relationship on their TV show.

Bizarrely enough they reunited for a second Sonny and Cher show after their divorce. You can probably guess why lasted only a few months.

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> Desi Arnaz and Lucille Ball finished up their final TV shows together on the Lucy-Desi Comedy Hour while their marriage crumbled and they prepared for divorce

At least on Lucy’s side there was still a flame there. In a Spin interview with Jenny Lewis (who worked on Ball’s last TV show), she remembers being there when Ball found out Arnaz had died. Lewis remembered Ball being “devastated and inconsolable”.

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-tv-and-movie-casts-absolutely-despised-each-other/600526/24 "2011-10-23T19:30:24Z")

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I have a question. In the field of actors behaving like putzes, you always hear about the women (Bette Davis and Joan Crawford) catfighting and feuding, rivals to the bitter end. Are there any recorded examples of MEN who don’t get along on a project? I can’t think of any. I know some behave badly to everyone.

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> [@installLSC](#):
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> At least on Lucy’s side there was still a flame there. In a Spin interview with Jenny Lewis (who worked on Ball’s last TV show), she remembers being there when Ball found out Arnaz had died. Lewis remembered Ball being “devastated and inconsolable”.

Yeah, I wonder if she regretted divorcing him. When he died she heaped praise on him for the success of I Love Lucy, as an actor and producer. To paraphrase “He could get more laughs with one line of broken English than I could with a show full of pratfalls”. If they had taken a break from the show maybe they could have patched things up.

IIRC, Martin and Lewis did a cameo on the premiere of the second Sonny&Cher series highlighting past breakups.

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> [@salinqmind](#):
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> I have a question. In the field of actors behaving like putzes, you always hear about the women (Bette Davis and Joan Crawford) catfighting and feuding, rivals to the bitter end. Are there any recorded examples of MEN who don’t get along on a project? I can’t think of any. I know some behave badly to everyone.

Frank Capra’s last movie was _A Pocketful of Miracles_. He was so fed up with Glenn Ford he gave up directing. As mentioned before, Martin&Lewis, Abbot&Costello. Surely others.

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John Belushi despised Chevy Chase when they worked together on Saturday Night Live (Belushi was very jealous of Chase, and Chase talked down to most of the other cast members, exacerbating the bad feelings all around) and Bill Murray was goaded (by Belushi and Dan Aykroyd) into actually taking a swing at Chevy Chase backstage when Chase returned to guest host SNL the year after he left the show full time.

To this day, the only scene that Bill Murray and Chevy Chase have ever appeared together in was the brief bit in Caddyshack in Carl Speckler’s (Bill Murray) crashpad at Bushwood Country Club.

“Yeah, we’ve got a pool, and a pond; the pond would be good for you…”

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> After the breakup Lewis’ popularity dropped like a rock, eventually reaching the record low point where his movies were only popular in France

Just to clarify: Jerry Lewis’s films were often thought by French critics to be truly sophisticated comedies, Blake Edwards level. This in contrast with the image that Lewis had in the States. But he was never a “Big In France” star.  
I dont think it will dispel the myth across the Atlantic, but you might want to know.

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From what I understand Desi and Lucy they loved each other. It’s just that Desi was an drunken asshole. Much later in life, when he was dying I think, he gave an interview and said that their divorce was pretty much all his fault because he was dumb and arrogant.

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Didn’t Desi Arnaz physically beat up Lucille Ball on more than one occasion?

It seems like I read that he actually hit her on the set of “I Love Lucy” in front of several other people, and it was just swept under the rug, as was common in those days.

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> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#):
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> Just to clarify: Jerry Lewis’s films were often thought by French critics to be truly sophisticated comedies, Blake Edwards level. This in contrast with the image that Lewis had in the States. But he was never a “Big In France” star.  
> I dont think it will dispel the myth across the Atlantic, but you might want to know.

Never? [I thought Cecil told us that he was well received in the 1960’s.](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1349/do-the-french-really-love-jerry-lewis)

[I mean, he did get a pretty big award there a few years ago.](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4814232.stm)

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-tv-and-movie-casts-absolutely-despised-each-other/600526/32 "2011-10-23T20:38:51Z")

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> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#):
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> Just to clarify: Jerry Lewis’s films were often thought by French critics to be truly sophisticated comedies, Blake Edwards level. This in contrast with the image that Lewis had in the States. But he was never a “Big In France” star.  
> I dont think it will dispel the myth across the Atlantic, but you might want to know.

Yeah I know. But it’s a meme here, along with Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys.

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> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#):
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> Just to clarify: Jerry Lewis’s films were often thought by French critics to be truly sophisticated comedies, Blake Edwards level.

Was this a whoosh, or are there people who actually consider Blake Edwards movies “sophisticated?”

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> [@Eve](#):
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> Was this a whoosh, or are there people who actually consider Blake Edwards movies “sophisticated?”

They are considered as such in France, especially “The Party” (dont ask me why, I love Blake Edwards but I find “The Party” to be utter shit, with only one good joke in it).

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The feuds between Laverne and Shirley (Penny Marshall, Cindy Williams) were often in the gossip papers.

Penny went on to a hugely successful career as a director. Cindy seemed to disappear after the show ended.

Together they were a brilliant comedy team. It’s a shame they only worked together a few years.

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Tisha Campbell had a restraining order against Martin Lawrence while she played his wife on Martin. I dunno how that worked.

See here [http://www.cracked.com/article/135\_6-beloved-tv-shows-that-traumatized-cast-members-life\_p2/](http://www.cracked.com/article/135_6-beloved-tv-shows-that-traumatized-cast-members-life_p2/) for a few details.

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The cast of _Taxi!_ (especially Judd Hirsch and Jeff Conaway) absolutely hated Andy Kauffman. When the latter appeared on set as his alter ego Tony Clifton accompanied by two real hookers Hirsch and Conaway exploded and physically confronted him. Kauffman’s forcible removal from the studio by security guards was totally staged as part of the whole stunt but the anger of the other cast members was very real. They considered Kauffman unprofessional and were angered by his often-voiced contempt for the sitcom that was paying all their wages.

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> [@Krokodil](#):
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> Tina Louise, on Gilligan’s Island (Her agent demanded that she get fifth and final billing on the opening theme, effectively cutting Russell Johnson and Dawn Wells out of the show credits the first season, among other things).

Bob Denver reportedly lobbied for Wells and Johnson to get equal billing with the other members of the cast after the first season. The producers initially refused, stating that it would be too expensive to re-shoot and re-score the opening. Denver then pointed out a clause in his contract that allowed him to have his name billed anywhere in the credits he chose and demanded to then have his name moved to the end credits along with Wells and Johnson. The studio capitulated and had Wells and Johnson billed as main cast members behind Tina Louise and the theme re-recorded to mention “the Professor and Mary Ann.” Denver never mentioned this to anyone in the cast and Dawn Wells said she only found out about this many years after the show ended.

> **[Gilligan's Island](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilligan%27s_island)**
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> Gilligan's Island is an American sitcom created and produced by Sherwood Schwartz. The show's ensemble cast features Bob Denver, Alan Hale Jr., Jim Backus, Natalie Schafer, Tina Louise, Russell Johnson, and Dawn Wells. It aired for three seasons on the CBS network from September 26, 1964, to April 17, 1967. The series follows the comic adventures of seven castaways as they struggle to survive on an island where they've been shipwrecked. Most episodes revolve around the dissimilar castaways' co...

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I remember reading that Tony Curtis absolutely despised Marilyn Monroe (sorry, no cite). When he had to make love (i.e., kiss and cuddle) with her on “Some Like It Hot,” he is reported to have said it was like “kissing Hitler.”

Hmmmm, on further reflection, I \*do \*have a [cite](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Some_Like_It_Hot#Production), although it seems that Curtis was backpedaling on the quip.

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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> I remember reading that Tony Curtis absolutely despised Marilyn Monroe (sorry, no cite). When he had to make love (i.e., kiss and cuddle) with her on “Some Like It Hot,” he is reported to have said it was like “kissing Hitler.”

Erol Flynn used to say the same thing, but as compliment.

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