# Which TV property has the most spinoffs/in-universe franchise shows? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [September 2, 2024, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-tv-property-has-the-most-spinoffs-in-universe-franchise-shows/1006652 "2024-09-02T22:24:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-tv-property-has-the-most-spinoffs-in-universe-franchise-shows/1006652/1 "2024-09-02T22:24:05Z")
You know how like _The Big Bang Theory_ was spunoff into _Young Sheldon_, which has now been spunoff into _[Georgie & Mandy’s First Marriage](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31589662/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3_tt_1_nm_7_in_0_q_georgie)_ (3 points!)? Which show has the most? For example, I’m pretty sure that _All in the Family_ inspired at least two spinoffs (_The Jeffersons_ and _Good Times_(?), one of which inspired at least one other spinoff) … is that the winner? Obviously the Law & Order franchise and/or the CSI franchise is going to win, but what about other shows, sitcoms in particular? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-tv-property-has-the-most-spinoffs-in-universe-franchise-shows/1006652/2 "2024-09-02T22:27:23Z")
> [@HeyHomie](#): > > _All in the Family_ inspired at least two spinoffs (_The Jeffersons_ and _Good Times_(?), There’s _Maude_, too. If you’re talking sitcoms only: It might be All in the Family (with the four already mentioned). _The Cosby Show_ had at least two; _The Andy Griffith Show_ had two also, I think. _The Mary Tyler Moore Show_ had _Rhoda_ and _Phyllis_, and then a non-sitcom drama, _Lou Grant._ But if you’re not limiting it to sitcoms, I’d think the original _Star Trek_ would be the winner. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-tv-property-has-the-most-spinoffs-in-universe-franchise-shows/1006652/3 "2024-09-02T22:27:55Z")
I think it is All in the Family with: Maude, The Jeffersons, Good Times, Archie’s Place ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-tv-property-has-the-most-spinoffs-in-universe-franchise-shows/1006652/4 "2024-09-02T22:31:11Z")
_All in the Family_ had _Archie Bunker’s Place_, _Gloria_, _The Jeffersons_, _Maude_, and _704 Hauser_ spun off directly from the originating series. _Maude_, in turn, spun off _Good Times_ and The Jeffersons spun off _Checking In_. So that’s eight. eta:ninja’d ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-tv-property-has-the-most-spinoffs-in-universe-franchise-shows/1006652/5 "2024-09-02T22:33:53Z")
The winner appears to be Law & Order: - Law & Order: Special Victims Unit - Law & Order: Criminal Intent - Law & Order: Trial by Jury - Law & Order: LA - Law & Order: True Crime - Law & Order: Organized Crime - Law & Order Toronto: Criminal Intent ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-tv-property-has-the-most-spinoffs-in-universe-franchise-shows/1006652/6 "2024-09-02T22:34:41Z")
Would it be possible to ban all mention of Tommy Westphall and his universe from this thread? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-tv-property-has-the-most-spinoffs-in-universe-franchise-shows/1006652/7 "2024-09-02T22:42:37Z")
If you’re including the Toronto show (basically a Canadian version), you should also include Law & Order: UK and Wikipedia also mentions a French adaptation. Though I think we should exclude foreign adaptations. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-tv-property-has-the-most-spinoffs-in-universe-franchise-shows/1006652/8 "2024-09-02T22:46:06Z")
_ **Star Trek TOS** _ _ **Star Trek TAS** _ _ **Star Trek TNG** _ _ **Star Trek DS9** _ _ **Star Trek VOY** _ _ **Star Trek DIS** _ _ **Star Trek PIC** _ _ **Star Trek TMP** _ _ **Star Trek II** _ _ **Star Trek III** _ _ **Star Trek IV** _ _ **Star Trek V** _ _ **Star Trek VI** _ _ **Star Trek Generations** _ _ **Star Trek First Contact** _ _ **Star Trek Insurrection** _ _ **Star Trek** _ _ **Star Trek Nemesis** _ _ **Star Trek Into Darkness** _ _ **Star Trek Beyond** _ Have I missed any? ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-tv-property-has-the-most-spinoffs-in-universe-franchise-shows/1006652/9 "2024-09-02T22:47:28Z")
The [Tommy Westphall universe](https://thetommywestphall.wordpress.com/the-master-list/) ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-tv-property-has-the-most-spinoffs-in-universe-franchise-shows/1006652/10 "2024-09-02T22:48:14Z")
Wikipedia mentions seven spinoffs of _Happy Days_. > [@](#): > > _Happy Days_ resulted in seven different spin-off series, including two that were animated: _[Laverne & Shirley](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laverne_%26_Shirley),_ _[Blansky’s Beauties](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blansky%27s_Beauties),_ _[Mork & Mindy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mork_%26_Mindy),_ _[Out of the Blue](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_of_the_Blue_(1979_TV_series)),_ _[Joanie Loves Chachi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanie_Loves_Chachi),_ _[The Fonz and the Happy Days Gang](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fonz_and_the_Happy_Days_Gang)_ (animated), and _[Laverne & Shirley with The Fonz](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mork_%26_Mindy/Laverne_%26_Shirley/Fonz_Hour#Laverne_&_Shirley_with_The_Fonz)_ (animated). I only remember _Laverne & Shirley_, _Mork & Mindy_, and _Joanie Loves Chachi_, but those three sprang easily to mind. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-tv-property-has-the-most-spinoffs-in-universe-franchise-shows/1006652/11 "2024-09-02T22:52:25Z")
I don’t think movies should be counted. But you missed several Star Trek series. The question will be if streaming series count, and I suspect they will. You missed: - Enterprise - Star Trek: Short Treks - Star Trek: Below Decks - Star Trek: Prodigy - Star Trek: Strange New Worlds - Starfleet Academy With those, I guess the franchise has passed L&O. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-tv-property-has-the-most-spinoffs-in-universe-franchise-shows/1006652/12 "2024-09-02T22:54:30Z")
**Mork and Mindy** wasn’t really a spin off, it was just using Happy Days as a launch pad for a completely unrelated show. But if you go with that, all those series could be a spin-off from **Love American Style**. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-tv-property-has-the-most-spinoffs-in-universe-franchise-shows/1006652/13 "2024-09-02T22:56:50Z")
The OP asked for “shows” without specifying TV series. I guess I still consider movies “shows” too. _ **Enterprise** _ I’ve seen, definitely should have been on the list. The others you mention I’ve either not seen or have never even heard of. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-tv-property-has-the-most-spinoffs-in-universe-franchise-shows/1006652/14 "2024-09-02T23:05:08Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > _ **Star Trek TOS** _ > _ **Star Trek TAS** _ > _ **Star Trek TNG** _ > _ **Star Trek DS9** _ > _ **Star Trek VOY** _ > _ **Star Trek DIS** _ > _ **Star Trek PIC** _ > _ **Star Trek TMP** _ To explain to non-fans, the full names follow: Star Trek: The Old Show Star Trek: Time and Space Star Trek: The New Guys Star Trek: Danger - Speedlimit: 999 Star Trek: Vulcans or Yoda Star Trek: Dogs in Space Star Trek: Planets in Confusion Star Trek: Those Muppet Pigs ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-tv-property-has-the-most-spinoffs-in-universe-franchise-shows/1006652/15 "2024-09-02T23:09:17Z")
Those are actually pretty good! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-tv-property-has-the-most-spinoffs-in-universe-franchise-shows/1006652/16 "2024-09-02T23:19:05Z")
They’re on the roadmap for Phase(r) 3. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-tv-property-has-the-most-spinoffs-in-universe-franchise-shows/1006652/17 "2024-09-03T00:05:48Z")
Doctor Who (the original series) Doctor Who (the revived series) “Doctor Who and the Daleks” (movie) “Daleks’ Invasion Earth 2150 A.D” (movie) “Doctor Who” (the TV movie) “The Sarah Jane Adventures” (spinoff series) “K9 and Company” (spinoff series) “Class” (spinoff series) “The War Between the Land and the Sea” (upcoming spinoff series) “An Adventure in Time and Space” (TV movie about the origin of the series) “Doctor Who Confidential” (documentary series akin to “Talking Dead”) “Sarah Jane’s Alien Files” (another spinoff series) “K9” (animated spinoff series) " Daleks!" (animated spinoff series) (and there may be more) ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-tv-property-has-the-most-spinoffs-in-universe-franchise-shows/1006652/18 "2024-09-03T00:29:02Z")
Anybody mentioned [JAG](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAG_(TV_series)#:~:text=JAG%20furthermore%20spawned%20the%20hit,were%20produced%20over%2010%20seasons.) yet? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-tv-property-has-the-most-spinoffs-in-universe-franchise-shows/1006652/19 "2024-09-03T01:27:09Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Star Trek: The Old Show Those Old Scientists. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-tv-property-has-the-most-spinoffs-in-universe-franchise-shows/1006652/20 "2024-09-03T01:46:18Z")
I think Star Trek wins, with L&O second. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-tv-property-has-the-most-spinoffs-in-universe-franchise-shows/1006652.md?page=2)