# Whiny Bitch Sues for and Wins Valedictorian Title **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 11, 2003, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiny-bitch-sues-for-and-wins-valedictorian-title/174448 "2003-05-11T04:20:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![FranticMad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c68b51/32.png) [@FranticMad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FranticMad)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2003, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiny-bitch-sues-for-and-wins-valedictorian-title/174448/161 "2003-06-06T03:07:01Z")
It makes me wonder if any of her work was original, or if she’s just channeling her father’s ambitions with a crystal, a pyramid, and access to his web browser’s bookmarks. ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2003, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiny-bitch-sues-for-and-wins-valedictorian-title/174448/162 "2003-06-06T03:40:26Z")
Snicker, snicker according to [Harvard](http://www.thecrimson.com/today/article348380.html) her offer can be withdrawn. > [@](#): > > According to Director of Undergraduate Admissions Marlyn McGrath Lewis ’70-’73, an acceptance offer could be withdrawn if a student engages in plagiarism. > > Although Lewis declined to comment on any particular case, she said that “several” offers of admission for the Class of 2007 are currently under review. Lewis said offers come under reconsideration for a variety of reasons. > > “Most of the time we learn it from the student. Sometimes we hear it from the school. Every once in a while we learn it in the newspaper,” she said. ---
**Author:** ![istara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e79b87/32.png) [@istara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/istara)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2003, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiny-bitch-sues-for-and-wins-valedictorian-title/174448/163 "2003-06-06T10:07:21Z")
While I could understand how a “non journalist” could make several mistakes, this girl is a blatant liar. How can she claim to be intelligent, and yet believe that journalism standards are “more lax” because they “don’t contain footnotes or endnotes”? Even in an academic paper, with footnotes, you don’t just write huge chunks of copied verbatim text from other people’s writing, without quotation marks and/or italics, and a little number or asterisk to link them to the footnote. **ALL STUDENTS KNOW THIS**. This girl cheated. She plagiarised. She lied. You can’t have it both ways: either you’re too stupid to go to Harvard, or you’re intelligent enough to know what plagiarism is. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Great\_Unwashed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_great_unwashed/32/4791_2.png) [@The\_Great\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Great_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2003, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiny-bitch-sues-for-and-wins-valedictorian-title/174448/164 "2003-06-06T14:10:59Z")
Is there any chance that the school could fail her if such plagiarism is found in her submitted work? Presumably, in that circumstance, Harvard could withdraw their offer? Please, please, almighty sky-pixie, let it happen. Poor Merkin, cursed with a name like that, **and** , cheated out of his Valedictorianship (I made that up) by such a vile, snake. ---
**Author:** ![FranticMad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c68b51/32.png) [@FranticMad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FranticMad)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2003, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiny-bitch-sues-for-and-wins-valedictorian-title/174448/165 "2003-06-06T16:12:05Z")
Hornstine may have won the title of Valedictorian, but her own actions have ruined the legitimacy and value the title. I wonder if she’d really be happy with a career in law. A change in goals would do her good. I hear there are some openings for interns at the New York Times. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2003, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiny-bitch-sues-for-and-wins-valedictorian-title/174448/166 "2003-06-06T17:06:14Z")
She can only blame herself for this. She could’ve have gotten away with her cheating if only she had accepted the co-valedictorianship (sensu The Great Unwashed) with grace and dignity. And now her name is tarnished. That’s what happens when you act ugly in public. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2003, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiny-bitch-sues-for-and-wins-valedictorian-title/174448/167 "2003-06-06T17:20:17Z")
If she cheated on her school work too can they revoke her diploma (and the busllshit “valedictorian” title)? How sweet would it be if she had to repeat her last year of High school. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Roadfood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc348/32.png) [@Roadfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roadfood)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2003, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiny-bitch-sues-for-and-wins-valedictorian-title/174448/168 "2003-06-17T17:22:14Z")
I come back from vacation and find the wonderfully ironic news that Hornstine is a cheating plagarist! Where are her defenders on this thread now? I hope the high school does a very thorough investigation into her schoolwork and uncovers evidence of cheating/plagarism in that, too. And that they then sue her and her daddy for ten times what she sued the school for. ---
**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2003, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiny-bitch-sues-for-and-wins-valedictorian-title/174448/169 "2003-06-17T18:08:49Z")
Got a link? This is the first I heard about the plagarism thing. I’d love to read and chuckle. ---
**Author:** ![Hobie\_the\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e99b99/32.png) [@Hobie\_the\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hobie_the_One)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2003, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiny-bitch-sues-for-and-wins-valedictorian-title/174448/170 "2003-06-17T20:00:29Z")
> [@](#): > > Got a link? This is the first I heard about the plagarism thing. I’d love to read and chuckle. From **Tars Tarkas** > [@](#): > > [Story](http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/ny-bc-nj--valedictoriansuit0604jun04,0,6062928.story?coll=ny-ap-regional-wire) > [Story](http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/news/local/6017163.htm) > [Story](http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/ny-bc-nj--valedictorian-exc0604jun04,0,7747250.story?coll=ny-ap-regional-wire) > > She’s a Plagarist!!! ---
**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2003, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiny-bitch-sues-for-and-wins-valedictorian-title/174448/171 "2003-06-17T21:06:43Z")
I know, I know. So sorry. I didn’t realize this thread had been resurrected before today, I opened it via a link in my email and it went straight to the last post. My bad. Woo-hoo! And people say there’s no such thing as KARMA. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/13edae/32.png) [@Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Cheatem_Undhow)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiny-bitch-sues-for-and-wins-valedictorian-title/174448/172 "2003-07-11T17:58:23Z")
UPDATE: Due to the plagiarism charge, this gal has been [disinvited from Harvard](http://www.boston.com/dailynews/192/region/Report_Valedictorian_who_sued_:.shtml). Now she’ll have to go to Brown! Do you hear me? BROWN! Muhahahahahaha! ---
**Author:** ![Amp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Amp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amp)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiny-bitch-sues-for-and-wins-valedictorian-title/174448/173 "2003-07-11T18:04:21Z")
So, how long before she sues Harvard? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiny-bitch-sues-for-and-wins-valedictorian-title/174448/174 "2003-07-11T21:21:47Z")
Ooooh! MAJOR burn! Karma is a wonderful thing, is it not? ---
**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiny-bitch-sues-for-and-wins-valedictorian-title/174448/175 "2003-07-11T21:51:20Z")
A whiny bitch lawyer named ‘Blair’… Sounds [familiar…](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2053193.stm) ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiny-bitch-sues-for-and-wins-valedictorian-title/174448/176 "2003-07-11T22:21:57Z")
Read it directly from The Crimson: [http://www.thecrimson.com/today/article348498.html](http://www.thecrimson.com/today/article348498.html) ---
**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiny-bitch-sues-for-and-wins-valedictorian-title/174448/177 "2003-07-11T22:48:40Z")
Blair uses uncredited internet sources… [Spooky…](http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_797821.html?menu=news.iraqaftermath) ---
**Author:** ![lucwarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@lucwarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lucwarm)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiny-bitch-sues-for-and-wins-valedictorian-title/174448/178 "2003-07-11T23:00:14Z")
For what it’s worth, I agree with the folks who put the blame on the parents. Yes, Ms. Hornstine appears ugly. But her parents must be behind most of this. It’s terrible the way that some parents pressure their kids. I saw it happen to my own sister and it scarred her for life. And by the way, I’m 32 years old and nobody freaking cares where I went to college or grad school. ---
**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiny-bitch-sues-for-and-wins-valedictorian-title/174448/179 "2003-07-11T23:28:51Z")
Re: the $2,7 million in damages, sounds like the local school district will be playing major league hardball > [@](#): > > In preparation for further discussions, the Moorestown school board is investigating the integrity of Hornstine’s academic coursework, said Cyndy Wulfsberg, the board’s president. > > “We need to find out absolutely everything that we can. If it means examination of her work, and if that work is there to be examined, I’m sure we’ll do it,” she said, adding that the board will also likely interview all those involved in Hornstine’s education, including her tutors and guidance counselors. And she didn’t attend the graduation ceremony either. ---
**Author:** ![Airblairxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Airblairxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airblairxxx)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiny-bitch-sues-for-and-wins-valedictorian-title/174448/180 "2003-07-11T23:39:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by mascaroni \* > \*\*A whiny bitch lawyer named ‘Blair’… > Sounds [familiar…](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2053193.stm) \*\* Hey, do NOT say such horrible things about my kinfolk. Not all of us are lawyers. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiny-bitch-sues-for-and-wins-valedictorian-title/174448.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiny-bitch-sues-for-and-wins-valedictorian-title/174448.md?page=10)