# Whiny Break-up Songs & Empowering Break-up Songs

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**Created:** [June 5, 2013, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiny-break-up-songs-empowering-break-up-songs/660179 "2013-06-05T03:04:57Z")\
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Whiny-“She’s out of my life”-MJ  
Empowering “Just another picture to burn”-Taylor Swift  
Thinks she’s empowered but really just psycho-“Before He Cheats”-Carrie Underwood

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Whiny: Phil Collins, _Against All Odds_  
Empowered: Loretta Lynn, _Fist City_  
Indeterminate: Lyle Lovett, _Stand By Your Man_

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> [@psychobunny](#):
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> Thinks she’s empowered but really just psycho-“Before He Cheats”-Carrie Underwood

Hah, my wife and I used to argue about this song (esp. the video). She saw it as empowering, I said Underwood was just a cowardly little wuss who’s too afraid to face her ex-boyfriend head on so she has to fuck with his car and run away to get “revenge”. She’s as empowered as a sullen teenager with a carton of eggs outside his teacher’s house.

Therefore, I have to rate it as “whiny”.

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[Love Done Gone](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d1T0UcsUN0) - by Billy Currington - actually a pretty upbeat “breakup” song (if you’re a country-music fan, at least).

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“You’re Breakin’ My Heart” by Harry Nilsson starts with these lyrics:

_You’re breakin’ my heart  
You’re tearin’ it apart  
So fuck you_

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A friend of mine came home to an empty house and a note from her boy-friend instructing her to play track \<whatever\> on the album sitting on the turntable.

It was Barry Manilow’s “Trying to Get the Feeling Again.”

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How about **Stay** by Sugarland (sung by Jennifer Nettles)? The first two parts are whiny, but the breakup part is at the end is kind of empowering.

"So next time you find you wanna leave her bed for mine

Why don’t you stay  
I’m up off my knees  
I’m so tired of being lonely  
You can’t give me what I need  
When she begs you not to go  
There is one thing you should know  
I don’t have to live this way  
Baby, why don’t you stay, yeah"

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Hah, my wife and I used to argue about this song (esp. the video). She saw it as empowering, I said Underwood was just a cowardly little wuss who’s too afraid to face her ex-boyfriend head on so she has to fuck with his car and run away to get “revenge”. She’s as empowered as a sullen teenager with a carton of eggs outside his teacher’s house.
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> Therefore, I have to rate it as “whiny”.

That song is one of the main reasons I can’t stand Carrie Underwood.

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Some good kiss-offs:

Husker Du - “Don’t Want To Know If You Are Lonely”  
Elvis Costello - “I Hope You’re Happy Now”  
The Beatles - “And Your Bird Can Sing”

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Is there a sub-category for angry?

Ben Folds Five: “Song for the Dumped”

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> So you wanted to take a break  
> Slow it down some and have some space  
> Fuck you too
> 
> Give me my money back you bitch

Evanescence: “Call Me When You’re Sober”

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> Don’t cry to me  
> If you loved me  
> You would be here with me  
> . . .  
> Don’t lie to me  
> Just get your things  
> I’ve made up your mind.

Led Zeppelin: “Your Time is Gonna Come”

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> Lying, cheating, hurting  
> That’s all you seem to do  
> . . .  
> Don’t care what you say cause I’m going away to stay  
> Gonna make you pay for that great big hole in my heart  
> . . .  
> You been bad to me woman  
> But it’s coming back home to you

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Empowering: “Blue Morning Blue Day” by Foreigner

Indeterminate: “Picture” duet by Sheryl Crow and Outkast

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Empowering, yet obnoxious - “Free Bird”.

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another vote for The Beautiful South. Particularly “a little time” Empowering I think.

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> The Freedom that you wanted bad  
> Is yours for good  
> I hope you’re glad  
> Sad into unsad  
> I had a little time  
> To think it over  
> Had a little room  
> To work it out  
> I found a little courage  
> To call it off

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Whiny:  
[Fuck You](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc0mxOXbWIU) by Cee-Lo Green

Empowering:  
[Go Your Own Way](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ul-cZyuYq4) by Fleetwood Mac

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> So, which side does _“You Oughta Know”_ fall on? Kinda whiny, but it also kicks ass.

I do love the yelling, but he’s gone on to have his back clawed by another woman and she’s writing a song, so I’d say it nets to whiny.

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> [@CookingWithGas](#):
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> “You’re Breakin’ My Heart” by Harry Nilsson starts with these lyrics:
> 
> _You’re breakin’ my heart  
> You’re tearin’ it apart  
> So fuck you_

Harry can deliver the kiss-off like no one else.

“Cuddly Toy”  
…  
You’re not the only choo-choo train  
To be left out in the rain  
The day after Santa came

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Classic kiss-off song: _[Already Gone](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8o_C50JFkc)_ by The Eagles

\*Well, I heard some people talkin’ just the other day  
And they said you were gonna put me on a shelf  
But let me tell you I got some news for you  
And you’ll soon find out it’s true  
And then you’ll have to eat your lunch all by yourself  
'Cause I’m already gone \*

Not so classic, but pretty good anyway: _[Kiss You Off](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppynaJ_CEE4)_ by the Scissor Sisters

_Kiss you off my lips  
I don’t need another tube of that dime store lipstick  
Well I think I’m gonna buy me a brand new shade of man  
Kiss you off my lips  
It’s standing room only for a piece of my pigment  
So excuse me a minute while I supply demand  
Kiss you off these lips of mine  
Kiss you off for a custom shine  
Pissed yours truly off this time_

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The ultimate whiny break up song has to be MacArthur Park.  
There will be another song for me  
For I will sing it  
There will be another dream for me  
Someone will bring it  
I will drink the wine while it is warm  
And never let you catch me looking at the sun  
And after all the loves of my life  
After all the loves of my life, you’ll still be the one

I will take my life into my hands and I will use it  
I will win the worship in their eyes and I will lose it  
I will have the things that I desire  
And my passion flow like rivers through the sky  
And after all the loves of my life  
Oh, after all the loves of my life  
I’ll be thinking of you and wondering why

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Empowering:  
Rilo Kiley: [Breakin’ Up](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGnJYMRC9NE)

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Pete Droge’s “If You Don’t Love Me (I’ll Kill Myself)” is both at the same time. Also, a very cool song:

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXZQEojATqQ)

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