# Whiskey Cavalier **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** liquor-alcohol\ **Created:** [February 28, 2019, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiskey-cavalier/830335 "2019-02-28T13:46:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiskey-cavalier/830335/1 "2019-02-28T13:46:38Z")
This series just started last night at 10 on ABC. They’ve been promoting it with faux commercials showing male and female super spies looking fashionable while escaping missiles and bombs. Scott Foley and Lauren Cohan star as competing FBI and CIA agents who undermine each other while investigating the same case. It’s all very “will they or won’t they” / Batman vs Catwoman / James Bond vs Octopussy type of conflict. Foley is more of the straight-laced play-by-the-rules good guy archetype, while Cohan is the spiked-heel wearing femme fatale who swoops in like a vulture to steal Foley’s credit. It’s a hell of a lot of fun if you turn off your brain and don’t get too concerned about logistics, kind of like _True Lies_. The supporting cast includes the best friend co-worker who secretly has many incompatible agendas to Whiskey’s, the smartass master thief who’s being pursued by both leads, the no-nonsense cold-blooded boss, and the former lover who shatters Whiskey’s faith in humanity. All this and plenty of guns, fistfights, car chases, and explosions. All it’s missing is 70’s era theme music with wah-wah guitar and twilling trumpets. ---
**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiskey-cavalier/830335/2 "2019-02-28T14:41:53Z")
I’m going to have to give it another chance. I liked _Castle_, and was hoping this would give me the same kind of vibe. It didn’t. I stopped paying attention halfway through. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiskey-cavalier/830335/3 "2019-02-28T14:49:24Z")
It’s a pleasant enough bit of fluff. The pilot was stuffed to overflowing with spy-movie clichés, but the actors are competent and there were a few bits coming out of left field to keep things interesting. The tampon bomb was hilarious. I appreciate that at least the pilot was filmed in actual foreign locations. I suspect that the main series will be done in domestic locations dressed to look foreign, but we’ll see. Lastly, Cohan…well, she cleans up real nice. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiskey-cavalier/830335/4 "2019-02-28T16:50:20Z")
I didn’t watch the show, but I saw some of the _endless_ commercials, and it seemed obviously aimed at the Castle audience (didn’t see that either, but I know what they were going for) or even the audience for Moonlighting. And that sort of banter/romance between the lead characters doesn’t work when the show is trying too hard to establish it. It has to come naturally, in a way. It helps if the leads have some chemistry. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2019, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiskey-cavalier/830335/5 "2019-03-01T14:34:39Z")
It was bugging me who the black guy was, so I had to look it up on IMDB. Holy crap, it’s Tyler James Williams – Chris from “Everybody Hates Chris”! No wonder I didn’t recognize him, he’s all growed up! ---
**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2019, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiskey-cavalier/830335/6 "2019-03-01T15:13:52Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > It was bugging me who the black guy was, so I had to look it up on IMDB. Holy crap, it’s Tyler James Williams – Chris from “Everybody Hates Chris”! No wonder I didn’t recognize him, he’s all growed up! Ironically he’s the reason I’m going to give the show another shot! I wasn’t wowed by the two main characters; but I will acknowledge that it’s tough to deliver a good first episode where that have to tell a good story and not get you slogged down in meeting new characters. It was pretty well done with the two main characters getting the ‘best’ of each other throughout the episode. I’ll give it another shot. I WANT to like it. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiskey-cavalier/830335/7 "2019-03-06T17:37:29Z")
I’m going to pass. I’ve just never really liked Scott Foley very much. I don’t know what it is about him. He’s just kind of _there_, you know? ---
**Author:** ![WildBlueYonder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ce7236/32.png) [@WildBlueYonder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildBlueYonder)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiskey-cavalier/830335/8 "2019-03-10T14:03:14Z")
I think its a stupid title for a show. Waiting for cancellation so I dont have to keep seeing the commercials and the dumb name…Why did they name it that? ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiskey-cavalier/830335/9 "2019-03-10T16:13:30Z")
Like someone said, pleasant enough fluff. Pretty locales. I believe Whiskey Cavalier is an acronym/codename for the male character (Will C-something?) Here was my hangup with the 2d ep. The henchwoman was a black woman with oh-so-high stilettos and a dyed blonde do. In ANY real life situation would people refer to such a person as “the blonde woman” as they did repeatedly in the show? :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiskey-cavalier/830335/10 "2019-03-11T06:48:42Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > I believe Whiskey Cavalier is an acronym/codename for the male character (Will C-something?) It’s Will Chase … because, you know, he will be chasing bad guys. I swear, this overpowering need that some creators have to saddle their characters with names laboriously and unimaginatively tailored to what they do irks me to no end. You see it in the comics world all the time. The Riddler HAS to be E. Nygma. And what kind of superpowers does Dr. Caitlin Snow develop? Certainly not fire-based ones! I imagine somewhere out there is a character named Rob Banks who would love to be a florist or a graphic designer or a park ranger, but what can he do? He’s gotta be a criminal. He’s Rob Banks, after all. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiskey-cavalier/830335/11 "2019-03-11T07:07:32Z")
Huzzah! He’s working again! He was my favorite of the Kids in the Ha – waitaminute. _( **kd99** checks Wikipedia)_ Oh. _Scott_ Foley. Never mind. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![WildBlueYonder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ce7236/32.png) [@WildBlueYonder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildBlueYonder)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2019, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiskey-cavalier/830335/12 "2019-03-14T10:55:11Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > Like someone said, pleasant enough fluff. Pretty locales. > > I believe Whiskey Cavalier is an acronym/codename for the male character (Will C-something?) > > Here was my hangup with the 2d ep. The henchwoman was a black woman with oh-so-high stilettos and a dyed blonde do. In ANY real life situation would people refer to such a person as “the blonde woman” as they did repeatedly in the show? :smack: Ok, thanks I think its the combination of the two, cavalier??? Whiskey anything but cavalier…hopefully it will get canceled so I wont hear about it 10000 times a week on commercials :(☹ ---
**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2019, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiskey-cavalier/830335/13 "2019-03-14T11:32:41Z")
> [@Snooooopy](#): > > It’s Will Chase … because, you know, he will be chasing bad guys. I swear, this overpowering need that some creators have to saddle their characters with names laboriously and unimaginatively tailored to what they do irks me to no end. You see it in the comics world all the time. The Riddler HAS to be E. Nygma. And what kind of superpowers does Dr. Caitlin Snow develop? Certainly not fire-based ones! I imagine somewhere out there is a character named Rob Banks who would love to be a florist or a graphic designer or a park ranger, but what can he do? He’s gotta be a criminal. He’s Rob Banks, after all. I blame Robin Hood for starting it. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2019, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whiskey-cavalier/830335/14 "2019-03-14T12:00:10Z")
There was a show a couple of years back that was a lot more caper-ish called _Hooten and the Lady_ and I wish it had continued, because it was much more palatable and fun than this, which I so far find to be a bit overworked.