# Whisky Tango Foxtrot!!! Shooting at the Holocaust Museum **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 10, 2009, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363 "2009-06-10T17:56:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/41 "2009-06-10T20:29:07Z")
I hope the guard who was shot comes through ok. It looks like the guards responded as well as could have been expected. Too bad they weren’t able to take him down before he fired, but at least they got him before he was able to do any damage to the public. The museum was reportedly full of kids today. If security hadn’t been so tight, there could have been a real massacre. This is the second act of right wing terrorism this month. I guess that DHS report wan’t so crazy after al. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/42 "2009-06-10T20:31:11Z")
They’re reporting the guard has died in the hospital. ---
**Author:** ![PeacePlease](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/71c47a/32.png) [@PeacePlease](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PeacePlease)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/43 "2009-06-10T20:31:21Z")
They just posted that the guard has died. How sad. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/44 "2009-06-10T20:33:47Z")
> [@PlainJain](#): > > Color me confused as to why they need that much security at the Holocaust Museum. I can’t decide whether that statement is sweetly naive or terribly disingenuous. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/45 "2009-06-10T20:36:37Z")
> [@Anne\_Neville](#): > > According to [this Washington Post article](http://voices.washingtonpost.com/livecoverage/2009/06/details_on_white_supremacist_s.html), one of the things we Jews do that he doesn’t like is “deliberately fart in business meetings”. As Dave Barry would say, I swear I am not making this up. We also apparently imitate ticks: > [@](#): > > The Holocaust must be viewed in context against the background of world history, the Torah, the Talmud, and Rothschild’s World Revolutionary Movement," Von Brunn wrote. In his 1999 book, Adolf Hitler “led Germany to an amazing spiritual and economic recovery” and Jews “ **embed themselves among their cattle and suck their vital juices undetected.** ” 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/46 "2009-06-10T20:38:09Z")
> [@Kalhoun](#): > > We were there a year ago. There are things like special revolving doors that are designed to keep the building from being rushed by the Hatin’ Bastids. Or so I’m told. It is widely understood that this place would be a target. > > I wish I could say I enjoyed my visit. There is an AWFUL lot to absorb, and too many pushing crowds to do it justice. It needs to be twice as big and open 24/7. The Hatin’ Bastids would be an awesome band name! ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/47 "2009-06-10T20:42:43Z")
I wonder if this guy was hanging around with former KKK member Robert Byrd back in the day? Also, will anyone accuse Obama’s spiritual mentor for 20 years, Jeremiah Wright, for contributing to the “atmosphere of hate” which allows this type of violence to fester? He’s quoted today as referring to “them Jews,” you know. Link: [http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-local\_wright\_0610jun10,0,7603283.story](http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-local_wright_0610jun10,0,7603283.story) ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/48 "2009-06-10T20:44:11Z")
Apparently former Maine Representative, Senator and US Secretary of Defense [William Cohen](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Cohen) was at the museum with his wife, Janet Langham, for the premiere of her play, _Anne and Emmett_, an imaginary conversation between Anne Frank and Emmett Till. Irony pops up everywhere… (And it is really freaking amazing how quickly Wikipedia gets updated…) ---
**Author:** ![Maia\_s\_Well](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Maia\_s\_Well](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maia_s_Well)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/49 "2009-06-10T20:45:13Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > The guy’s Web page says he did 6 years in jail for trying to put a citizen’s arrest on the federal reserve or something, so this guy was very experienced at being a bigoted fucking loon. From von Brunn’s website: "And so, on December 7, 1981, a bright, crisp morning James Wenneker von Brunn visited the Federal Reserve Building on Constitution Ave., across from the Washington Monument, Washington D.C. I had cased the building twice before, and talked at length with one of the guards, a retire U.S. Marine. I posed as a freelance newspaper reporter. I wore a trench-coat with a camera-case slung over my shoulder. . The Marine (“HARRY”)) guided me through the Board Room, and Paul Volcker’s office; there I met his secretary, a smartly dressed middle-aged lady with gray hair. My objective was to arrest Volcker and the FED Brd of Governors. I intended to bind their hands, and persuade them to appear on Television…" Sorry I don’t know how to make the links look better. The page linked here is very long; he gives his autobiography and his explanations of how the Illuminati runs the FED or something before he tells the story of his “caper”. [http://www.holywesternempire.org/fed-caper.html](http://www.holywesternempire.org/fed-caper.html) ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/50 "2009-06-10T20:55:35Z")
This guy is keeerazy! He’s a Stormfronter, a militiaman, a eugenicist, a gold bug, a Truther, and a Birther. That’s like the double hat trick of ultra-right-wing nutso. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/51 "2009-06-10T20:56:54Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > CNN is reporting the shooter is 88. If that’s true, that’s a long time to be carrying around that kind of hate. I guess the longer you carry it, the stronger it gets. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/52 "2009-06-10T20:58:05Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > I wonder if this guy was hanging around with former KKK member Robert Byrd back in the day? > > Also, will anyone accuse Obama’s spiritual mentor for 20 years, Jeremiah Wright, for contributing to the “atmosphere of hate” which allows this type of violence to fester? He’s quoted today as referring to “them Jews,” you know. > > Link: [http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-local\_wright\_0610jun10,0,7603283.story](http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-local_wright_0610jun10,0,7603283.story) And Clinton got a blowjob from a Jewish girl! Von Brunn claims on his website that he is a member of Mensa, which should be good enough for it’s own thread. ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/53 "2009-06-10T20:58:23Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > We also apparently imitate ticks: Ew. Nobody told me about that when I converted. ---
**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/54 "2009-06-10T20:58:44Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > I wonder if this guy was hanging around with former KKK member Robert Byrd back in the day? > > Also, will anyone accuse Obama’s spiritual mentor for 20 years, Jeremiah Wright, for contributing to the “atmosphere of hate” which allows this type of violence to fester? He’s quoted today as referring to “them Jews,” you know. > > Link: [http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-local\_wright\_0610jun10,0,7603283.story](http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-local_wright_0610jun10,0,7603283.story) It really takes a special kind of asshole to take this tragedy and use it as an excuse to take political potshots. ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/55 "2009-06-10T20:59:26Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > This guy is keeerazy! He’s a Stormfronter, a militiaman, a eugenicist, a gold bug, a Truther, and a Birther. That’s like the double hat trick of ultra-right-wing nutso. I know what the others are, but what are Truthers and Birthers? ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/56 "2009-06-10T21:04:34Z")
> [@Darkhold](#): > > It really takes a special kind of asshole to take this tragedy and use it as an excuse to take political potshots. I assumed he was \*tu quoquing \ ***Diogenes** : > [@](#): > > This is the second act of right wing terrorism this month. I guess that DHS report wan’t so crazy after al. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/57 "2009-06-10T21:04:36Z")
Some places are supposed to be places of sanctuary. Less than a year ago, a man opened fire in a Unitarian Church. A few weeks ago a man murdered another man in a church over abortion. A museum that is as much a memorial to monumental loss as it is a place of education is another such sanctuary. Even the devil respects sanctuary. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/58 "2009-06-10T21:14:31Z")
> [@Anne\_Neville](#): > > I know what the others are, but what are Truthers and Birthers? “Truthers” are 9/11 Truthers, people who are convinced that 9/11 was a US government conspiracy. “Birthers” are the crazy people for whom a certificate of live birth, certified by the governor of Hawaii, is not enough to convince that Barack Obama is a natural-born US citizen and therefore eligible to hold the office of POTUS. People who are convinced of his Muslim identity and secret intent to unlock the gates late some night to let the jihadists in are also included (by me, at least). ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/59 "2009-06-10T21:17:07Z")
> [@Darkhold](#): > > It really takes a special kind of asshole to take this tragedy and use it as an excuse to take political potshots. I’m simply comparing this shooting to the recent killing of an abortion doctor. I seem to recall Keith “Ratings Basement Dweller” Olbermann going on a tirade about Bill O’Reilly spreading the kind of hate that would lead to the killing of abortion doctors. But I guess that kind of thinking only goes one way, huh? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/60 "2009-06-10T21:23:48Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > I wonder if this guy was hanging around with former KKK member Robert Byrd back in the day? > > Also, will anyone accuse Obama’s spiritual mentor for 20 years, Jeremiah Wright, for contributing to the “atmosphere of hate” which allows this type of violence to fester? He’s quoted today as referring to “them Jews,” you know. > > Link: [http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-local\_wright\_0610jun10,0,7603283.story](http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-local_wright_0610jun10,0,7603283.story) Wow. No subject that can’t be turned into a cheap shot against the ‘libs’ with you, is there? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363.md?page=4)