# Whisky Tango Foxtrot!!! Shooting at the Holocaust Museum **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 10, 2009, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363 "2009-06-10T17:56:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/61 "2009-06-10T21:23:55Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > I’m simply comparing this shooting to the recent killing of an abortion doctor. I seem to recall Keith “Ratings Basement Dweller” Olbermann going on a tirade about Bill O’Reilly spreading the kind of hate that would lead to the killing of abortion doctors. But I guess that kind of thinking only goes one way, huh? :rolleyes: Well, there’s every chance that Tiller’s murderer was an O’Reilly fan, and about zero chance that a _Neo-Nazi would be inspired by a black pastor_. ---
**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/62 "2009-06-10T21:31:35Z")
Sick fuck’s web page: [http://www.holywesternempire.org/bio.html](http://www.holywesternempire.org/bio.html) ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/63 "2009-06-10T21:33:02Z")
How horrible! The late security guard was black, FWIW, so it must have been like a double victory for the sick old fuck. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/64 "2009-06-10T21:33:40Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > Von Brunn claims on his website that he is a member of Mensa, which should be good enough for it’s own thread. Heh, not the best advert for that particular organization, to be sure. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/65 "2009-06-10T21:34:48Z")
> [@Anne\_Neville](#): > > Ew. Nobody told me about that when I converted. You mean you _didn’t_ convert for the delicious cow juice? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/66 "2009-06-10T21:35:21Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > I’m simply comparing this shooting to the recent killing of an abortion doctor. I seem to recall Keith “Ratings Basement Dweller” Olbermann going on a tirade about Bill O’Reilly spreading the kind of hate that would lead to the killing of abortion doctors. But I guess that kind of thinking only goes one way, huh? :rolleyes: You know the Nazis aren’t big on our black brothers either, right? If you were to say Tom Metzger could maybe be held somewhat culpable, then that might… What the hell am I doing? This is pointless. ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/67 "2009-06-10T21:35:48Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Well, there’s every chance that Tiller’s murderer was an O’Reilly fan, and about zero chance that a _Neo-Nazi would be inspired by a black pastor_. Never said he was “inspired” by anyone. But is it possible that Obama’s spiritual mentor _contributed_ to this current atmosphere of hatred against Jews? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/68 "2009-06-10T21:38:15Z")
Really bad news about the guard. I’m sorry to hear that. > [@Stephe96](#): > > I wonder if this guy was hanging around with former KKK member Robert Byrd back in the day? > > Also, will anyone accuse Obama’s spiritual mentor for 20 years, Jeremiah Wright, for contributing to the “atmosphere of hate” which allows this type of violence to fester? He’s quoted today as referring to “them Jews,” you know. > > Link: [http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-local\_wright\_0610jun10,0,7603283.story](http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-local_wright_0610jun10,0,7603283.story) Wow, what a long way to go to try to turn this thread into a partisan political attack. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/69 "2009-06-10T21:41:54Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Never said he was “inspired” by anyone. But is it possible that Obama’s spiritual mentor _contributed_ to this current atmosphere of hatred against Jews? There’s a current atmosphere of hatred towards Jews? Wright was not Obama’s spiritual mentor, by the way, nor is he a racist. And that’s all I’m going to feed you. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/70 "2009-06-10T21:49:21Z")
RIP Stephen Tyrone Johns. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/71 "2009-06-10T22:41:42Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Never said he was “inspired” by anyone. But is it possible that Obama’s spiritual mentor _contributed_ to this current atmosphere of hatred against Jews? No. Go away. ETA: The guy’s webpage is slow as hell. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/72 "2009-06-10T22:48:04Z")
> [@Anne\_Neville](#): > > According to [this Washington Post article](http://voices.washingtonpost.com/livecoverage/2009/06/details_on_white_supremacist_s.html), one of the things we Jews do that he doesn’t like is “deliberately fart in business meetings”. As Dave Barry would say, I swear I am not making this up. I’m sorry, but thats not kosher for anybody ! ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/73 "2009-06-10T22:53:36Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Never said he was “inspired” by anyone. But is it possible that Obama’s spiritual mentor _contributed_ to this current atmosphere of hatred against Jews? Not amongst Neo-Nazis, no. That’s about as likely to work on them as were Osama bin Laden’s ravings that Pres. Obama is a secret Jew. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/74 "2009-06-10T23:02:00Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Never said he was “inspired” by anyone. But is it possible that Obama’s spiritual mentor _contributed_ to this current atmosphere of hatred against Jews? It’s _possible_ you’re doing it, too, or that it’s something you should be doing but aren’t… so cut it out, already or don’t not do it! Seriously, give it a rest. Obama’s of no relevance here. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/75 "2009-06-10T23:08:21Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Never said he was “inspired” by anyone. But is it possible that Obama’s spiritual mentor _contributed_ to this current atmosphere of hatred against Jews? In response to the disingenous nonsense of asserting that a man whose only national prominence arose a year ago might have contributed to the “current atmosphere,” I am very tempted to suggest that the OP fuck himself or herself. But I’m not going to. You see, fucking is a good thing, and it’s a continual mystery to me why we should wish good things upon persons who utter such odious nitwittery. Nor shall I invite **Stephe96** to unfuck herself or himself, as fucking is (thermodynamically speaking) an irreversible process; you can now more unfuck yourself than you can unhear a bell once it has pealed. I shall, instead, suggest that Stephe96 is so full of shit that he or she cannot possibly have an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/76 "2009-06-10T23:13:11Z")
Kinda bizarre having a neo-nazi who is old enough to remember the actual nazi’s. Wonder if he’s spent the last six decades kicking himself for being on the wrong side. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/77 "2009-06-10T23:28:09Z")
I’m sorry about the security guard, and I hope the shooter pulls through. We need to put this asshole on trial and make him pay. Dying from a shot to the head seems too easy. ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/78 "2009-06-10T23:43:27Z")
WTF? Apparently this Neo-Nazi broke into the Fed in the '80s and tried to “arrest” the Fed’s board with multiple guns on him - yet he claimed he was being “peaceful.” The sound of things from Bizarro-land is no good. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/79 "2009-06-10T23:43:31Z")
MSNBC reported that the guy was a Freeper, and his posts have been pulled off the site. So, it was ok for him to post his right wing racist bullshit before, but now that he’s acted on it, they pull what he wrote off. Nice. Tiller’s murderer was also a Freeper. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/80 "2009-06-10T23:44:56Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Kinda bizarre having a neo-nazi who is old enough to remember the actual nazi’s. Given his age, he might not be a “neo” - it’s possible he adopted his ideas back when the crap was new. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363.md?page=5)