# Whisky Tango Foxtrot!!! Shooting at the Holocaust Museum **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 10, 2009, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363 "2009-06-10T17:56:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/81 "2009-06-10T23:48:57Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Never said he was “inspired” by anyone. But is it possible that Obama’s spiritual mentor _contributed_ to this current atmosphere of hatred against Jews? _thinks hard_ Uh…no. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/82 "2009-06-11T00:01:17Z")
Less than two months ago there was a thread in which several people commented that there was not much anti-Semitism nowadays: > **[What's With All The Jew Hate?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=515073)** > > Ive lost count of the number of people who think Jews rule this world and run all the major businesses and therefore they’re bad. It’s completely futile trying to engage in an argument involving that line of thought too. Believe me, it’s still around. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/83 "2009-06-11T00:36:51Z")
> [@Mehitabel](#): > > How horrible! > > The late security guard was black, FWIW, so it must have been like a double victory for the sick old fuck. Negroes are the footsoldiers for the jews, you know. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/84 "2009-06-11T00:42:51Z")
He was one of the loonies who also had rabid anti-Christianity as one of his main things - see [http://www.antichrist.net/vonbrunn.html](http://www.antichrist.net/vonbrunn.html) - he apparently believed that Christianity was yet another example of how the Jews have corrupted the world. As for him being a WWII vet - there is a pretty strong idea among neo-Nazis/fascists/radical nationalists in a number of countries who fought on the side of the Allies (UK, US, Australia, etc) who believe that these ‘White’ countries were tricked/manipulated by ‘The Jews’ to fight against their fellow whites. ---
**Author:** ![yanceylebeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yanceylebeef/32/12290_2.png) [@yanceylebeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yanceylebeef)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/85 "2009-06-11T00:45:03Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Never said he was “inspired” by anyone. But is it possible that Obama’s spiritual mentor _contributed_ to this current atmosphere of hatred against Jews? The stupid is strong with this one! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/86 "2009-06-11T00:45:51Z")
A paleonazi? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/87 "2009-06-11T00:46:15Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > I wonder if this guy was hanging around with former KKK member Robert Byrd back in the day? > > Also, will anyone accuse Obama’s spiritual mentor for 20 years, Jeremiah Wright, for contributing to the “atmosphere of hate” which allows this type of violence to fester? He’s quoted today as referring to “them Jews,” you know. > > Link: [http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-local\_wright\_0610jun10,0,7603283.story](http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-local_wright_0610jun10,0,7603283.story) THIS might be just the break the McCain campaign has been waiting for! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/88 "2009-06-11T01:30:42Z")
As a Jew, I feel I should say something- But my usual jokes about the blood of unbaptised Christian infants seem somehow inappropriate. On a serious note, thank G-d I live in a Jewish stronghold here in Philly. ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/89 "2009-06-11T01:47:22Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > I’m sorry, but thats not kosher for anybody ! What, farting? I shouldn’t have had that Indian food for dinner, should I? > [@Malthus](#): > > You mean you didn’t convert for the delicious cow juice? I thought that meant chocolate milk. ---
**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/90 "2009-06-11T01:52:52Z")
> [@suranyi](#): > > Less than two months ago there was a thread in which several people commented that there was not much anti-Semitism nowadays: > > [What's With All The Jew Hate? - Great Debates - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=515073) > > Believe me, it’s still around. I did some research recently, and was gratified to discover that while there had definitely been acts of vandalism, there had been no anti-semitic acts of violence against persons in the U.S. in the past three years. I guess I can no longer make that point. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/91 "2009-06-11T01:55:17Z")
> [@Anne\_Neville](#): > > What, farting? > > . Well, IMO yes 🙂 But more specifically “deliberately in business meetings” ! Though, that practice would be the biggest advance in speeding up meetings since Roberts Rules of Order. ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/92 "2009-06-11T01:55:38Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > RIP Stephen Tyrone Johns. Yes, indeed. A brave man who died protecting people from a lunatic with a gun. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/93 "2009-06-11T01:59:19Z")
> [@SpoilerVirgin](#): > > I did some research recently, and was gratified to discover that while there had definitely been acts of vandalism, there had been no anti-semitic acts of violence against persons in the U.S. in the past three years. I guess I can no longer make that point. ☹ No offense, but you didn’t do a very good job. > **[Seattle Jewish Federation shooting](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_2006_Seattle_Jewish_Center_shooting)** > > The Seattle Jewish Federation shooting took place in Seattle, United States on July 28, 2006, at around 4:00 p.m., when Naveed Afzal Haq shot six women, one fatally, at the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle building. Before he began shooting, Haq shouted, "I am a Muslim American, angry at Israel." > After his first trial ended in a mistrial, Haq was convicted in December 2009 and sentenced to life without parole plus 120 years. Damning recordings of telephone conversations between Haq and hi... You must have missed that synagogue bombing plot that the New York police prevented last month, too. See here, too: [http://www.adl.org/PresRele/ASUS\_12/5537\_12.htm](http://www.adl.org/PresRele/ASUS_12/5537_12.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/94 "2009-06-11T02:06:10Z")
> [@Junior\_Spaceman](#): > > As for him being a WWII vet - there is a pretty strong idea among neo-Nazis/fascists/radical nationalists in a number of countries who fought on the side of the Allies (UK, US, Australia, etc) who believe that these ‘White’ countries were tricked/manipulated by ‘The Jews’ to fight against their fellow whites. With the exception that this particular vet , was a pacific war vet. A little event like Pearl Harbor has quite a few people sign up to go to war against japan, and not everyone was a gentleman and a scholar. Declan ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/95 "2009-06-11T02:16:16Z")
> [@Declan](#): > > With the exception that this particular vet , was a pacific war vet. A little event like Pearl Harbor has quite a few people sign up to go to war against japan, and not everyone was a gentleman and a scholar. > > Declan Did WWII enlistees get a choice of theaters? ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/96 "2009-06-11T02:20:43Z")
Wow! I just got a surreal feeling. I have read 2 pages of posts on the SDMB about a shooting and it hasn’t devolved into a 2nd amendment/gun control rant yet. Has this ever happened before? ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/97 "2009-06-11T02:26:32Z")
> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#): > > My run-of-the-mill neighborhood temple has armed guards. How many Christian churchs feel like they need that sort of security? I wonder if Resurrection Lutheran Church(ELCA) in Wichita, Kansas is considering it? ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/98 "2009-06-11T02:32:12Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Did WWII enlistees get a choice of theaters? In his case he might have, if his bio is correct and he ended up as a retired captain, I can probably guess that he either went officer training command, I would have thought that his bio may have mentioned that he was a mustang. So volunteering for PT boats would be a ticket to the pacific war. I’m curious to know if he was in JFK’s squadron. Declan ---
**Author:** ![3trew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/13edae/32.png) [@3trew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3trew)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/99 "2009-06-11T02:51:57Z")
> [@ghardester](#): > > Wow! I just got a surreal feeling. I have read 2 pages of posts on the SDMB about a shooting and it hasn’t devolved into a 2nd amendment/gun control rant yet. > > Has this ever happened before? The important thing is that you’ve done what you can to fix that. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/100 "2009-06-11T02:56:30Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > I wonder if Resurrection Lutheran Church(ELCA) in Wichita, Kansas is considering it? Speaking as an ELCA member, probably not. We tend toward the “wimpy” end of the spectrum. However, as the chair of our property commission recently won an all-state shooting competition, I wouldn’t try it. A guy can hide a helluva lot under his choir robe. :eek: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363.md?page=6)