# Whisky Tango Foxtrot!!! Shooting at the Holocaust Museum **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 10, 2009, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363 "2009-06-10T17:56:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/141 "2009-06-12T05:09:59Z")
> [@CannyDan](#): > > OK, either I’ve personally slipped the rails, or the world has. > > I just saw a video clip, but I cannot find a cite. So I’m hesitant to decide which of the above is operative. > > But I just watched Rush explaining that the shooter’s philosophical underpinnings are in fact most closely aligned with left wing philosophy. Despite all of the rather lengthy and surprisingly well spoken self analyses the shooter himself posted on his web site, he was really not a right winger at all. > > Thank you, Rush. I’m going to go hit some acid now, just to even things out. Hell, I don’t know about you, but most leftist will say that communism and Bolshevism were the extreme left. (Being that, extremes are never a good thing). So why is it a bad thing to say that Nazism is the EXTREME right? And no, neither is “liberal” or “conservative” – they’re radicals. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/142 "2009-06-12T05:10:32Z")
Oh, forgot : they also have a big point of contention on the reality of gas chambers - according to them, the Nazis only worked and starved their victims to death. Which must somehow make it OK, in a “hey, I may be a serial rapist who shot a pregnant old lady while skullfucking a puppy, but I never beat my kids” kind of way. Now me, what I don’t get, is how lazy unemployed welfare-for-life Blacks/Jews/Mexicans/Lizard People still keep stealing our jobs. How does that work ? Do they draw straws to decide who gets to be the one on welfare, switch on Wednesdays, what ? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/143 "2009-06-12T05:48:00Z")
I thought it was rock-paper-scissors? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/144 "2009-06-12T07:05:16Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Hell, I don’t know about you, but most leftist will say that communism and Bolshevism were the extreme left. (Being that, extremes are never a good thing). So why is it a bad thing to say that Nazism is the EXTREME right? Because the Right is never Wrong. And besides they had “Socialist” in their name, so obviously they must be left wing ! ---
**Author:** ![wintertime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c68b51/32.png) [@wintertime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wintertime)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/145 "2009-06-12T09:39:39Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Oh, forgot : they also have a big point of contention on the reality of gas chambers - according to them, the Nazis only worked and starved their victims to death. Which must somehow make it OK, in a “hey, I may be a serial rapist who shot a pregnant old lady while skullfucking a puppy, but I never beat my kids” kind of way. A thousand times: yes. I’ve never understood the “but we didn’t know about the gas chambers” line of reasoning. Your jewish neighbours were beaten up by the SA, lost their jobs, their businesses, their homes, their rights, were treated like sub-humans, tortured, had to leave their country or were imprisoned in concentration camps and were killed, killed, killed .. but since you didn’t know about the gas chambers, how could you have possibly known that something bad was going on? Fuckers. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/146 "2009-06-12T12:08:25Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Because the Right is never Wrong. “Conservatism can never fail. It can only be failed.” ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/147 "2009-06-12T12:32:11Z")
> [@wintertime](#): > > A thousand times: yes. I’ve never understood the “but we didn’t know about the gas chambers” line of reasoning. Your jewish neighbours were beaten up by the SA, lost their jobs, their businesses, their homes, their rights, were treated like sub-humans, tortured, had to leave their country or were imprisoned in concentration camps and were killed, killed, killed .. but since you didn’t know about the gas chambers, how could you have possibly known that something bad was going on? > > Fuckers. Yeah. Claiming there’s a particular way in which the Nazis did not kill the Jews, while agreeing that they did kill them in other ways, is lame – and assuming anyone will _care_ is transparently stupid. “Hey – duct tape! I just thought of that. They didn’t kill them with duct tape!” ---
**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/148 "2009-06-12T12:54:09Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Because the Right is never Wrong. And besides they had “Socialist” in their name, so obviously they must be left wing ! Word. Is insanity really that comfortable from the inside? All safe, warm, and protected in your own special world? Must be nice! \ ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/149 "2009-06-12T13:16:58Z")
> [@Bookkeeper](#): > > The fact that he makes such a big deal of these “decorations” indicates that he has no real military accomplishments to brag about. Don’t most people who have medals not want to talk about them? ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/150 "2009-06-12T14:42:55Z")
> [@TooSchoolforCool](#): > > Limbaugh is nuts. . No, he’s evil. Please note that I’m not saying that all conservatives or all Republicans are evil, for they are not. I’m saying that RUSH LIMBAUGH is evil. ---
**Author:** ![Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/regallag_the_axe/32/445_2.png) [@Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Regallag_The_Axe)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/151 "2009-06-12T16:50:07Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > No, he’s evil. Can’t he be both? On the whole Holocaust Denial thing, I only know one person who is an open anti-Semite. He doesn’t deny the Holocaust, and actually told me once that if he was born earlier he would have helped them with it.\* Of course this guy is a bit of an outlier, as he is _not_ a white supremacist, and supports the state of Israel (so that all the Jews can go there and be far away from him). \*My reaction was something like: :eek: “uh… er, wuh… I, eh… [other sounds meaning ‘that took me totally off guard, and I have no idea how to respond’]” ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/152 "2009-06-12T16:51:03Z")
Um… what exactly is his problem with Jews? Is it that they lay eggs? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/153 "2009-06-12T16:54:12Z")
The evil part of me is wondering how the gaming store atmosphere will be this weekend, as there is this one guy at my local gaming store who always calls people “Jew this” and “Jew that” (we told him, way after we should have, that this ceased to be funny several months ago.) I sort of want to see him use it again this weekend, it would be Shadenfreudetastic. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/154 "2009-06-12T16:55:17Z")
Until he shoots you. ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/155 "2009-06-12T17:35:00Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Um… what exactly is his problem with Jews? Is it that they lay eggs? We fart in business meetings and embed ourselves among our cattle and suck their vital juices undetected. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/156 "2009-06-12T17:54:28Z")
Well, you can hardly be blamed for the one if you’re engaged in the other. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/157 "2009-06-12T17:54:31Z")
> [@Anne\_Neville](#): > > We fart in business meetings and embed ourselves among our cattle and suck their vital juices undetected. No, those are Mr. Von Shooty’s\* problems with Jews. I was asking about **Regallag** ’s, er.. friend. \*the grumpy old museum shooter guy. I forgot his name and can’t be bothered to zip back to Page 1. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/158 "2009-06-12T18:16:46Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Um… what exactly is his problem with Jews? Is it that they lay eggs? No, you’re thinking of [Martians.](http://www.erbzine.com/mag13/jsp97.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/159 "2009-06-12T19:00:42Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > The surprising thing is not the racism or anger, it’s the action. People that age rarely go beyond shaking their fists, writing their Congressman, and shouting “Get off my lawn”. Exactly. I remember, after a rather unpleasant Christmas dinner, telling some younger cousins not to worry, that although plenty of people his age had that attitude, they were past the point of having any effect on society, and wouldn’t be with us much longer anyway. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/regallag_the_axe/32/445_2.png) [@Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Regallag_The_Axe)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363/160 "2009-06-12T19:30:22Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > No, those are Mr. Von Shooty’s\* problems with Jews. I was asking about **Regallag** ’s, er.. friend. I don’t think friend is the right word. More “my dad’s friend”. Anyway, I don’t know what his problem with Jews is. I’ll try to remember to ask next he brings it up, but I only see him a few times a year. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whisky-tango-foxtrot-shooting-at-the-holocaust-museum/499363.md?page=9)