White After Labor Day -- wth?

I think we will move to Florida so my husband can wear dark pants with a white belt and white shoes year 'round. He will look snazzy.

Karl Lagerfeld has no need of your cat’s ass?

This is why we can never go anywhere nice. :stuck_out_tongue:

Only to bolshies.

If by “sign” you mean it’s something that gives a signal to other people, then no it’s not remotely a sign of that.

I agree with Lagerfeld and Seinfeld. If you wear sweats anywhere other than home or the gym, it’s a sign of defeat. You’ve decided you can’t look good, so you might as well be comfortable. lol.

straw hat day is may 15th, felt hat day is sept. 15th. perhaps before memorial day (1861) and labour day (1887ish) that was the start and stop of wearing white.

And there was the Straw Hat Riot of 1922, where the then-tradition of knocking the straw hats off the heads of people wearing them after Sept 15 went a little overboard.

Exackle! Miss Manners, Judith Martin, reminds us that all etiquette is based on courtesy and common sense. If it’s warm and sunny in March or mid September, put on your white pants and straw hat, and strut your stuff !

Basing seasonal fashions today on what the seasons were in England before air conditioning is a sign of insanity that didn’t exist even in the heyday of Newport, Hyannis, and Kennebunkport. The Americans who imported the English upper-class attitudes didn’t live in the South. I don’t think most Southerners made a fetish about limiting whites and summer flannels to three months.

Wrong! Manners are based on courtesy and common sense. Etiquette is a collection of obtuse rules designed to exclude Others for not knowing them from birth.

Jerry Seinfeld said a similar thing to George Costanza…"sweatpants says “I’ve given up”

I live in the southern hemisphere and ‘Labour Day’ differs from state to state. In NSW, where I live it’s the first weekend of October (i.e. during our spring), so that rule certainly wouldn’t apply.

When I was growing up - when proper ladies wore hats and gloves and never went without stockings when going into Town - white shoes, in particular, weren’t worn in winter. It was also considered ‘wrong’ for a lady’s shoes to be a lighter colour than her stockings or dress.

Nowadays, anything goes.

Cite? Because that sounds absolutely nothing like Judith Martin. In fact, she says quite the opposite in her book “Miss Manners Rescues Civilization” (pg. 27 on the common sense argument and page 48 on white shoes after labor day).

lol.

This reminds of an article I read in Life magazine from the forties. It discussed seersucker suits. They were considered perfectly acceptable as professional wear in the South, but considered gauche up North. Of course the reason was this was the era most places were not air conditioned, and if you’re a lawyer in Alabama in a sweaty courtroom in July a thick suit wasn’t going to cut it.

Having never seen a single episode of Seinfeld, I’m not sure why I should care about what a fictional television character says to another fictional television character or anyone silly enough to quote a fictional television character. At least Lagerfeld has a reason: he wants people to buy his clothes. Since there’s no chance of him ever seeing me in my sweatpants, or me ever buying his clothes, I think I’ll be alright. I’ll still be warm and comfortable.

Wearing white after Labor Day? Go ahead, be a rebel! Wear those white shoes, pants, jacket, suit, dresses, skirts. If it’s summer weight, like light cotton, and bright white, not winter white, you are going to look like a fool. Like you haven’t put away your summer stuff and haven’t gotten out your winter/fall stuff. One of the tiny pleasures of life is putting on nice clothes according to the season. Little white sundress and sandals in the summer, wool sweater and corduroys in the fall. If you want to wear that sundress and sandals in a January blizzard, go ahead! No one is telling YOU what to do! You will, however, look inappropriate and faintly comical.

But the rule had absolutely nothing to do with January blizzards. It had to do with the second week in September, weather that would often be as warm or warmer as the last week in August and for which wool sweaters were implements of torture.

You can ridicule the rules very easily. But if you ridicule the rules by trying to apply them where they were never intended, guess who’s the one who looks inappropriate and faintly comical?

And you’ll look like you’ve given up.

But this is the SDMB, where dressing like a slob is held in high regard.

(And for someone as obsessed with movies as you are, you are strangely negative about television shows.)

If you’re going to wear white shoes after Labor Day, just don’t do it around Serial Mom.

You’ve never been to the southern US in September, I assume.

This makes no sense to me. The only thing I’ve “given up” on is freezing my butt off when I don’t have to. And I don’t have to. If I had a job that required being a bit more dressed up, I would, but I’d still wear my black sweat pants outside of work. I’m not going to freeze to please any snobs who might notice and sniff the air with derision. I win by being warm. Their attitude loses by being snobby and stupid and caring about something that does not affect them at all.

I’m not negative about TV shows. I’m negative about quoting a fictional character on a television show as if it proves some sort of point and as if I should care. Not so much negative even, more like highly amused. It’s way sillier than me wearing something that keeps me warm while waiting for the bus.