# White and Nerdy: "I order all my sandwiches with mayonnaise" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 29, 2006, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-and-nerdy-i-order-all-my-sandwiches-with-mayonnaise/374607 "2006-09-29T15:16:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-and-nerdy-i-order-all-my-sandwiches-with-mayonnaise/374607/21 "2006-09-29T19:04:49Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] You never ate a roast beef sandwich at Rubins in Brookline, did you? 🙂 [/QUOTE] You sure you’re not talking about horseradish sauce? That’s sometimes horseradish blended with mayo and used on roast beef. If not, eewww. I’d return it in a second. Besides, Brookline is Boston, which is a world away from New York City stereotypes. And the online menu for Rubins doesn’t mention mayo anywhere. ---
**Author:** ![brianjedi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@brianjedi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brianjedi)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-and-nerdy-i-order-all-my-sandwiches-with-mayonnaise/374607/22 "2006-09-29T19:09:54Z")
[QUOTE=Mayo Speaks!] What have I ever done to you? And I’m a “he”, not an “it”! :indignant: [/QUOTE] You go to Louisville Community Colle… I mean the University of Louisville. That’s bad enough. ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-and-nerdy-i-order-all-my-sandwiches-with-mayonnaise/374607/23 "2006-09-29T19:26:59Z")
[QUOTE=brianjedi] I’m a little surprised he would eat mayo, since he went vegetarian back in the early 90s. [/QUOTE] Mayonnaise _is_ vegetarian (not vegan). ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-and-nerdy-i-order-all-my-sandwiches-with-mayonnaise/374607/24 "2006-09-29T19:29:16Z")
[QUOTE=davenportavenger] I like mayonnaise, but I like brown mustard more (yellow is nasty). I like to mix them together for a good sandwich topping. [/QUOTE] Have you tried Hellman’s Dijonnaise? Unfortunately they set their jingle to the tune of “Duke of Earl” so I can never just say “Dijonnaise”. It has to be “Deej, Deej, Deej, Dijonnaise, Hellman’s, Dijonnaise”. Anyhoo, a side salad for my mom and pop at dinner at home was iceberg lettuce with a dollop of mayo (or Miracle Whip). Why bother. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-and-nerdy-i-order-all-my-sandwiches-with-mayonnaise/374607/25 "2006-09-29T19:31:05Z")
[QUOTE=Exapno Mapcase] Besides, Brookline is Boston, which is a world away from New York City stereotypes. [/QUOTE] Mrs. Plant, the Most Jewish Person in the world, from Long Island, eats mayo on roast beef. Mustard is for Hebrew National hot dogs. What’s the URL for Rubin’s? Haven’t been there in ten years. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-and-nerdy-i-order-all-my-sandwiches-with-mayonnaise/374607/26 "2006-09-29T19:40:42Z")
[Ha!](http://gourmet.lowcost.us.com/item_42303030463647374345/Manischewitz_Real_Mayonnaise.php) ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-and-nerdy-i-order-all-my-sandwiches-with-mayonnaise/374607/27 "2006-09-29T21:08:49Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] Mrs. Plant, the Most Jewish Person in the world, from Long Island, eats mayo on roast beef. [/QUOTE] Isn’t that a violation of kosher dietary rules (unless the mayo is vegan)? ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-and-nerdy-i-order-all-my-sandwiches-with-mayonnaise/374607/28 "2006-09-29T21:24:37Z")
Mayonnaise is a stable emulsion of vegetable oil and egg yolk, flavored with vinegar or lemon juice and frequently mustard. No milk products in it. So how would it be in violation of kosher dietary laws? ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-and-nerdy-i-order-all-my-sandwiches-with-mayonnaise/374607/29 "2006-09-29T22:35:47Z")
[QUOTE=Walloon] Mayonnaise is a stable emulsion of vegetable oil and egg yolk, flavored with vinegar or lemon juice and frequently mustard. No milk products in it. So how would it be in violation of kosher dietary laws? [/QUOTE] As is obvious from my previous entry, I’m not Jewish. I thought the same prohibition on eating cheese (dairy-based) on, for example, a roast beef or turkey sandwich would also apply to mayonnaise (egg-based) on a roast beef or turkey sandwich. Just out of curiosity, how are the two different in terms of kosher restrictions? ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-and-nerdy-i-order-all-my-sandwiches-with-mayonnaise/374607/30 "2006-09-29T22:51:49Z")
[Kosher Dietary Laws](http://www.jewfaq.org/kashrut.htm). ---
**Author:** ![Gr8Kat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gr8kat/32/18668_2.png) [@Gr8Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gr8Kat)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-and-nerdy-i-order-all-my-sandwiches-with-mayonnaise/374607/31 "2006-09-29T23:06:24Z")
[QUOTE=NDP] As is obvious from my previous entry, I’m not Jewish. I thought the same prohibition on eating cheese (dairy-based) on, for example, a roast beef or turkey sandwich would also apply to mayonnaise (egg-based) on a roast beef or turkey sandwich. Just out of curiosity, how are the two different in terms of kosher restrictions? [/QUOTE] Eggs aren’t made from milk, so they are not dairy. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-and-nerdy-i-order-all-my-sandwiches-with-mayonnaise/374607/32 "2006-09-29T23:32:53Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] What’s the URL for Rubin’s? Haven’t been there in ten years. [/QUOTE] I just entered Rubins Brookline into Google. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-and-nerdy-i-order-all-my-sandwiches-with-mayonnaise/374607/33 "2006-09-29T23:51:41Z")
I must concede. Mrs. Plant while eating mayonnaise on roast beef at home, would have mustard at Rubin’s. She cannot explain why, so it must be a very Jewish thing. However, it was the whole wheat and not rye on my roast beef with mayo that she says gave me away as a former goy at that famous establishment. Perhaps I will understand after I get my secret decoder ring and copy of the _rotocols of Zion._ ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-and-nerdy-i-order-all-my-sandwiches-with-mayonnaise/374607/34 "2006-09-30T00:21:51Z")
[QUOTE=Gr8Kat] Eggs aren’t made from milk, so they are not dairy. [/QUOTE] So you can’t eat cheese (dairy) on a roast beef sandwich but mayo (egg) is okay. Thanks for setting me straight on that. (Now what about a chicken sandwich with mayo?) Anyway, getting back on topic, I can’t eat mayonnaise because I’m allergic to it. I don’t really miss it but it does lead to awkward exchanges when I’m ordering in restaurants and have to make sure they hold the mayo. In one particular incident that turned unexpectedly ugly, I forgot to do this and ended up being practically kicked out of the place when I told them I couldn’t eat it. (Sure, you can argue I was to blame for what happened but it was a BBQ beef sandwich for God’s sake! What kind of Philistine automatically puts mayo on a BBQ beef sandwich?) ---
**Author:** ![dangermom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@dangermom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dangermom)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-and-nerdy-i-order-all-my-sandwiches-with-mayonnaise/374607/35 "2006-09-30T01:36:19Z")
Can I hijack the mayo discussion with a different Weird Al question? We love the _White and Nerdy_ song, being white and nerdy ourselves, but my husband thinks it’s a parody of some unknown rap song, and I think it’s original. Which is it? And, I’m as white as white can be, and prefer Gulden’s Brown Mustard (when I can’t get Grey Poupon) and dislike mayo intensely. Just for data-gathering purposes. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-and-nerdy-i-order-all-my-sandwiches-with-mayonnaise/374607/36 "2006-09-30T01:41:55Z")
[QUOTE=dangermom] We love the _White and Nerdy_ song, being white and nerdy ourselves, but my husband thinks it’s a parody of some unknown rap song, and I think it’s original. Which is it? [/QUOTE] Your husband’s right. It’s a parody of a song called Ridin’ by an artist called Chamillionaire. ---
**Author:** ![Absolute](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@Absolute](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Absolute)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-and-nerdy-i-order-all-my-sandwiches-with-mayonnaise/374607/37 "2006-09-30T01:42:49Z")
[QUOTE=Tengu] Your husband’s right. It’s a parody of a song called Ridin’ by an artist called Chamillionaire. [/QUOTE] “Riding Dirty”, actually. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-and-nerdy-i-order-all-my-sandwiches-with-mayonnaise/374607/38 "2006-09-30T01:50:14Z")
It’s a parody of Ridin’ by Chamillionaire, which I heard the original for the very first time today. I spent a good thirty seconds trying to figure out why it sounded so familiar before it finally dawned on me 'cause, while I’m white and nerdy, I’m not a fan of Weird Al and had quickly forgotten the song shortly after watching it. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-and-nerdy-i-order-all-my-sandwiches-with-mayonnaise/374607/39 "2006-09-30T04:09:01Z")
I didn’t even catch the mayo reference in _White and Nerdy_, but I had a long e-mail correspondence with a girl about it which led to us comparing our nerd-cocks, which started this way: > [@Larry Mudd](#): > > [My GF] thinks I’m a Big Fuckin’ Geek, for some reason. Her eyes glaze over when I gush about the biochemistry of yoghurt-making or how exciting an emulsifier egg-yolk is in the context of a mayonnaise. > > God help me when we move in together next week and I can no longer conceal my extensive collection of japanese animation from her. Eesh. > [@My nerd-chick friend](#): > > Though I didn’t know about the star wars holiday special, don’t identify with the star trek references (even if I do understand them all) and i actually don’t get excited about yogurt and mayonnaise (it’s the taste, yuk), I was shocked at how many things i could identify too! So mayonnaise _can_ be nerdy. ---
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[QUOTE=dangermom] Can I hijack the mayo discussion with a different Weird Al question? We love the _White and Nerdy_ song, being white and nerdy ourselves, but my husband thinks it’s a parody of some unknown rap song, and I think it’s original. Which is it? [/QUOTE] I’m not sure if you’re using “unknown” in the sense that your husband didn’t know it or if you meant “obscure,” but the song hit #1 on the Billboard Hot 100, #3 on the Billboard Top 40 Mainstream charts, and the album also placed in the Top 10, so it’s not really obscure, if you meant it that way. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-and-nerdy-i-order-all-my-sandwiches-with-mayonnaise/374607.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-and-nerdy-i-order-all-my-sandwiches-with-mayonnaise/374607.md?page=3)