# "White Collar" -- vest with lapels?!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-collar-vest-with-lapels/525240>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 16, 2010, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-collar-vest-with-lapels/525240 "2010-01-16T21:41:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-collar-vest-with-lapels/525240/21 "2010-01-20T16:14:29Z")

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> [@melodyharmonius](#):
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> I’m going to a steampunk wedding . . .

This is such a wonderful time to be alive! 🙂

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**Author:** ![melodyharmonius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/melodyharmonius/32/21310_2.png) [@melodyharmonius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/melodyharmonius)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-collar-vest-with-lapels/525240/22 "2010-01-20T16:26:22Z")

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Y’all have given me some great ideas.

I was awake at 3 AM last night and stumbled upon [this site](http://www.holyclothing.com) last night. (I’m fluffy and fabu, part of the challenge).

I found a [ruffly top](http://stores.channeladvisor.com/Holyclothing/Items/h114003?sck=143339&caSKU=h114003&caTitle=Burgundy%20Wine%20Myrna%20Poet%20Sleeve%20Satin%20Lace%20Gothic%20Corset%20Bustier%20Top%20Shirt)like suggested and will pair it with the full walking skirt as suggested. I was told of a place that sells goggles every Christmas - going to run by there in a bit to see if they are on clearance (heard that happens).

And going to run by the local western wear store to see if I can find the vest for the SO.

He’s only dressing for me, so he’ll be pretty minimalist. And I agree to overkill seems to take away from the whole point. I just want some cool gears here and there and I’ll be happy.

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**Author:** ![ProfessorX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@ProfessorX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ProfessorX)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2010, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-collar-vest-with-lapels/525240/23 "2010-02-14T19:21:18Z")

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Has anyone been watching the new episodes that started a few weeks back? You can actually watch them online at the [official site](http://www.usanetwork.com/series/whitecollar/). I’ve been loving them. For an hour long show, they really keep everything moving very quickly, and nothing seems to drag. Personally, I love the settings, fashion, and the weekly crimes.

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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2010, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-collar-vest-with-lapels/525240/24 "2010-02-15T17:55:05Z")

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Well, if you look like Matthew Bomer (Neal), you can pretty much wear anything - or nothing at all - and still look cool.

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**Author:** ![medstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@medstar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/medstar)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2010, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-collar-vest-with-lapels/525240/25 "2010-02-15T23:57:03Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> IIRC he is wearing the clothes of the dead husband of the **lady he is living with (Diane Carrol).** So it is actually old fashion. Which is supposed to look cool.

Isn’t Diahann Carroll his landlady? As yummy as Neal Caffrey is, I hesitate to think that a classy woman like Ms. Carroll would lower herself to “living with” a convicted con artist. Maybe he conned her into feeling sorry for him and giving him her late husband’s belongings?

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**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-collar-vest-with-lapels/525240/26 "2010-02-16T01:51:35Z")

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> [@ProfessorX](#):
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> Personally, I love the settings, fashion, and the weekly crimes.

I watch the show on Hulu, and I love it. There are two things that really impress me about the show:  
(1) Peter and his wife have a really good relationship. That sounds strange, but how often do you see a really good, happy relationship on television? There are plenty of shows where a couple has _heat_, but very few with real _warmth_.  
(2) Both Neal and Peter are smart and competent. When I started watching the show, I was afraid it would turn out to be about a street-wise con artist and his bumbling FBI sidekick. Instead, while they have different skills and styles, they are both highly intelligent. I can buy that Neal was very difficult to catch, and also that Peter was able to catch him. (Twice.)

The plots and dialogue and all that are good as well, but getting those two things right really makes the show work for me for some reason.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-collar-vest-with-lapels/525240/27 "2010-02-16T02:23:12Z")

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> [@medstar](#):
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> Isn’t Diahann Carroll his landlady? As yummy as Neal Caffrey is, I hesitate to think that a classy woman like Ms. Carroll would lower herself to “living with” a convicted con artist. Maybe he conned her into feeling sorry for him and giving him her late husband’s belongings?

Does she know he’s a convict? (Serious question; maybe that was made clear in an episode I missed.)

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**Author:** ![TimeWinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@TimeWinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimeWinder)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-collar-vest-with-lapels/525240/28 "2010-02-16T04:04:55Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Does she know he’s a convict? (Serious question; maybe that was made clear in an episode I missed.)

Yes, she knows. So was her dead husband, hence her sympathy to Neal.

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**Author:** ![ProfessorX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@ProfessorX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ProfessorX)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-collar-vest-with-lapels/525240/29 "2010-02-17T22:00:10Z")

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Her dead husband also was a big fan of fashion, so a lot of the hats that Neal wears on the show actually came from him as well. Sad that there isn’t a new episode on this week! But it returns next week!

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