# White House-brewed beer: A platform Obama should run on.

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 22, 2012, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-brewed-beer-a-platform-obama-should-run-on/632311 "2012-08-22T21:17:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-brewed-beer-a-platform-obama-should-run-on/632311/1 "2012-08-22T21:17:28Z")

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The White House [brews its own beer](http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/08/22/brewers-want-obama-beer-recipe/#ixzz24IrHsDn8), including Honey Porter and Honey Blonde Ale, made with the honey from Michelle Obama’s White House garden and equipment the Obamas bought with their own money.

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> Individuals calling themselves “homebrewers across America" filed a petition on the White House website demanding that the Obama administration cough up the recipe for the special suds.
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> “In keeping with the brewing traditions of the founding fathers, homebrewers across America call on the Obama Administration to release the recipe for the White House home brew so that it may be enjoyed by all,” [the petition reads](https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/release-recipe-honey-ale-home-brewed-white-house/XkpkYwc0).
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> One user on the social media website Reddit took the more formal move of [submitting a Freedom Of Information Act request](http://www.reddit.com/r/Homebrewing/comments/yjlp9/so_i_submitted_a_foia_request_for_you_today/)
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> [http://global.fncstatic.com/static/v/all/img/external-link.png](http://global.fncstatic.com/static/v/all/img/external-link.png)
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> for the White House brews.

He should put the recipe up on his Facebook page for anyone who friends him.

Here is a candidate you could not only have a beer with, he brews the beer himself. Romney would have a hard time one-upping that.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-brewed-beer-a-platform-obama-should-run-on/632311/2 "2012-08-22T21:53:40Z")

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What a perfect cover for a Muslim…homebrewing!

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-brewed-beer-a-platform-obama-should-run-on/632311/3 "2012-08-22T22:35:26Z")

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4 more beers!

4 more beers!

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-brewed-beer-a-platform-obama-should-run-on/632311/4 "2012-08-22T23:03:49Z")

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I agree.

They should hop to it.

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**Author:** ![Kyrie\_Eleison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kyrie_eleison/32/7682_2.png) [@Kyrie\_Eleison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyrie_Eleison)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-brewed-beer-a-platform-obama-should-run-on/632311/5 "2012-08-22T23:31:57Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> They should hop to it.

Malto Bravo!

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-brewed-beer-a-platform-obama-should-run-on/632311/6 "2012-08-23T00:55:34Z")

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I want Billy Carter’s recipe.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-brewed-beer-a-platform-obama-should-run-on/632311/7 "2012-08-23T03:57:18Z")

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Not many people know that George Washington tried his hand at whiskey distilling toward the end of his life. Didn’t last long,maybe 18 months, and the distillery near Mount Vernon was dismantled over time. But then it was rebuilt and is now a tourist attraction packaged with Mount Vernon. We visited it in April but was too late to buy some from the gift shop, as it had closed for the day.

But I think the White House should dabble in this too.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-brewed-beer-a-platform-obama-should-run-on/632311/8 "2012-08-23T04:19:01Z")

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Definitely. That’s cool.

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**Author:** ![GreasyJack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/df705f/32.png) [@GreasyJack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreasyJack)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-brewed-beer-a-platform-obama-should-run-on/632311/9 "2012-08-23T04:20:42Z")

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Well, if they’re like the folks calling for him to release his birth certificate, they’re probably not going to like the Honey Porter just because it’s black.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-brewed-beer-a-platform-obama-should-run-on/632311/10 "2012-08-23T04:44:54Z")

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> [@74westy](#):
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> I want Billy Carter’s recipe.

I had some and no you don’t.

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**Author:** ![Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/58956e/32.png) [@Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emtar_KronJonDerSohn)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-brewed-beer-a-platform-obama-should-run-on/632311/11 "2012-08-23T04:54:23Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Not many people know that George Washington tried his hand at whiskey distilling toward the end of his life. Didn’t last long,maybe 18 months, and the distillery near Mount Vernon was dismantled over time. But then it was rebuilt and is now a tourist attraction packaged with Mount Vernon. We visited it in April but was too late to buy some from the gift shop, as it had closed for the day.
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> But I think the White House should dabble in this too.

Didn’t he distill some thing like 500 barrels during that time though? That’s not exactly in the same league as some minor hobby brewing.

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**Author:** ![GreasyJack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/df705f/32.png) [@GreasyJack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreasyJack)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-brewed-beer-a-platform-obama-should-run-on/632311/12 "2012-08-23T04:57:36Z")

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I wonder who owns the rights to Billy Beer these days. A lot of the craft breweries have been resurrecting defunct local macro brand names and putting “american pale ales” or some such in the can. I could see a decent (but not too decent) beer in a Billy Beer can doing well among the ironic hipster market.

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**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-brewed-beer-a-platform-obama-should-run-on/632311/13 "2012-08-23T05:02:04Z")

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I’ve not been on reddit before, but this was a funny post under the reddit link:

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> [–]SanchoDeLaRuse 8 points 2 days ago
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> Strange…I was browsing reddit, put my dishes in the sink as I wondered if I could google the recipe for the White House Honey Ale, sat down to reddit, and found this.
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> > [–]Mycobrew 14 points 2 days ago
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> > Don’t scratch that spot on the back of your head too hard, or the chip will fall out.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-brewed-beer-a-platform-obama-should-run-on/632311/14 "2012-08-23T05:43:14Z")

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> [@74westy](#):
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> I want Billy Carter’s recipe.

> [@dropzone](#):
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> I had some and no you don’t.

But what I do want is an unopened six-pack of Billy Beer. Even 30 years ago, I believe I saw an ad from someone offering hundreds of dollars for one. May be worth more now.

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**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-brewed-beer-a-platform-obama-should-run-on/632311/15 "2012-08-23T09:22:58Z")

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How long before the demands for the long form recipe?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-brewed-beer-a-platform-obama-should-run-on/632311/16 "2012-08-23T10:45:03Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> But what I do want is an unopened six-pack of Billy Beer. Even 30 years ago, I believe I saw an ad from someone offering hundreds of dollars for one. May be worth more now.

Somebody on _Pawn Stars_ recentiy brought in a case of unopened Billy Beer, and Rick didn’t even make an offer. He said there was so much of it still around, it had no value at all.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-brewed-beer-a-platform-obama-should-run-on/632311/17 "2012-08-23T13:16:34Z")

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> [@Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](#):
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> Didn’t he distill some thing like 500 barrels during that time though? That’s not exactly in the same league as some minor hobby brewing.

Looks like it was a pretty big deal:

[http://www.mountvernon.org/visit-his-estate/plan-your-visit/distillery-amp-gristmill](http://www.mountvernon.org/visit-his-estate/plan-your-visit/distillery-amp-gristmill)  
[http://www.usatoday.com/travel/destinations/2009-04-15-mount-vernon-whiskey\_N.htm](http://www.usatoday.com/travel/destinations/2009-04-15-mount-vernon-whiskey_N.htm)  
[http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-06-09/travel/ct-trav-0610-food-mount-vernon-20120609-5\_1\_scotch-whisky-association-dennis-pogue-bill-lumsden](http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-06-09/travel/ct-trav-0610-food-mount-vernon-20120609-5_1_scotch-whisky-association-dennis-pogue-bill-lumsden)

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**Author:** ![Ichbin\_Dubist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@Ichbin\_Dubist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichbin_Dubist)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-brewed-beer-a-platform-obama-should-run-on/632311/18 "2012-08-23T13:35:26Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> But what I do want is an unopened six-pack of Billy Beer. Even 30 years ago, I believe I saw an ad from someone offering hundreds of dollars for one. May be worth more now.

A friend of mine has a few unopened cans in his kitchen. They’re pretty rusty.  
Romney’s next move it to announce that he a man of the people who likes a drink as well – he owns 4 wineries.

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**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-brewed-beer-a-platform-obama-should-run-on/632311/19 "2012-08-23T13:52:13Z")

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It needs a name. I suggest Rolling Barack.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-brewed-beer-a-platform-obama-should-run-on/632311/20 "2012-08-23T14:00:35Z")

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We’ve actually had a lot of teetotallers on Presidential tickets lately. Bush stopped drinking after fighting with alcoholism. Biden had an alcoholic father and so doesn’t drink. Romney doesn’t drink for religious reasons.

(I’d think Cheney would abstain due to his heart problems, but googling its hard to tell if that’s the case. Most of the results I get back are speculation regarding his drinking before the “great lawyer hunt of '06”, but they’re pretty light on actual info).

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