# White House likley altered video of Jim Acosta **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 9, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242 "2018-11-09T15:06:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/81 "2018-11-15T12:31:49Z")
> [@boytyperanma](#): > > Perhaps you should read up on the court case Bricker brought up. It makes a pretty clear case for CNN to prevail. Here’s a quick link to a synopsis of the case: [http://liblog.law.stanford.edu/2018/11/interesting-article-the-legal-precedent-that-could-protect-jim-acostas-credentials/](http://liblog.law.stanford.edu/2018/11/interesting-article-the-legal-precedent-that-could-protect-jim-acostas-credentials/) ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/82 "2018-11-15T13:57:27Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > The video shows Acosta hit a woman who was simply doing her job. Acosta then lost his WH lame stream media credentials. Maybe the woman who was assaulted by Acosta should ask for a restraining order against Acosta? That intern should be lucky that the press conference didn’t happen in Florida. Acosta was standing his ground and would be completely justified in shooting that attacker in self-defense. The Metropolitan Police Department should open an investigation into her attempt at a strong-arm robbery, and then the US Attorney should indict Trump, Sanders, Kelly, and others as co-conspirators and accessories after the fact. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/83 "2018-11-15T15:45:51Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Acosta’s press pass wasn’t revoked based on the video. Trump and everyone else saw him behaving like an asshole first-hand. FALSE, hence the necessity to fabricate false “evidence”. > [@](#): > > And no, not behaving like an asshole to Trump. TRUE, he treated Trump with more respect than he deserves. > [@](#): > > Behaving like an asshole to the woman he put his hands on FALSE, no hands were put one anyone. > [@](#): > > and the other reporters in the room. FALSE, as evidenced by the pushback against the administration’s abuse by the media (even Fox News!). One correct out of four; not a good showing. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/84 "2018-11-15T17:19:32Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > The video shows Acosta hit a woman who was simply doing her job. Acosta then lost his WH lame stream media credentials. Maybe the woman who was assaulted by Acosta should ask for a restraining order against Acosta? This seems to have provoked a response that was inappropriate, however this does not give cover for the original act itself. Given the obvious falseness of this statement, and the rest of the content of this post, I can only surmise this is trolling. This is a warning for trolling. [/moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/85 "2018-11-15T19:07:07Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > FALSE, no hands were put one anyone. No, it is true. Watch the [CNN video and the sped up version](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXZ2jRZMLrg). Note the contact between Acosta and the intern which is evident in both versions. _:shrugs:_ I don’t suppose it will do any good. If someone is going to respond to a video posted by CNN showing Acosta putting his hand on a woman by saying that he didn’t put his hand on a woman, nothing is going to help. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/86 "2018-11-15T19:09:26Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > It’s deeper than that; they are assaulting the concept of truth. That has been their goal from the start. Attack people who try to present facts on the one hand, and drown them out with repetitive falsity on the other. . . . this is among the gravest threats this country has faced. Coincidentally, the NYT has published a 3-part video on ‘disinformation’ which, for obvious reasons, is highly relevant. (each video is about 15 minutes long, with parts II and III as important and informative as anything I’ve ever seen. So the 45 minute commitment is WELL worth your time) > **[Opinion | Operation Infektion: A three-part video series on Russian...](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/12/opinion/russia-meddling-disinformation-fake-news-elections.html)** > > Russian Disinformation: From Cold War to Kanye (BTW, access is free) ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/87 "2018-11-15T19:16:20Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > No, it is true. Watch the [CNN video and the sped up version](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXZ2jRZMLrg). Note the contact between Acosta and the intern which is evident in both versions. > > _:shrugs:_ I don’t suppose it will do any good. If someone is going to respond to a video posted by CNN showing Acosta putting his hand on a woman by saying that he didn’t put his hand on a woman, nothing is going to help. > > Regards, > Shodan For folks who don’t want to watch the video, **Shodan’s** description above is absolutely false. An accurate description would be to say that part of Acosta’s arm brushed against the WH aide’s arm while she was trying to forcefully pull the microphone out of his grasp. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/88 "2018-11-15T19:25:20Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > For folks who don’t want to watch the video, **Shodan’s** description above is absolutely false. > > An accurate description would be to say that part of Acosta’s arm brushed against the WH aide’s arm while she was trying to forcefully pull the microphone out of his grasp. In fact, if you watch the various slo-mo versions out there, you see that maybe the side of his wrist or possibly just his sleeve contacted the intern. He did not put his hand on anything. And, that was just because he was moving his arm down while the intern got in the way – he obviously didn’t intentionally put his wrist or sleeve on her, it was incidental contact. I have no idea why posters on this board are falling for such obvious lies by the administration. It’s really bizarre. I wonder if they also think the turnout for Trump’s inauguration was huge. One can argue over the effects of tax bills or deregulation, and who should get the credit, but some facts are just objective. I find this episode to be very strange. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/89 "2018-11-15T19:32:08Z")
AFAICT, certain facts have become partisan – and certain partisans have decided that it’s better to go with the obvious false assertions of their “team” rather than the truth, if that truth makes their team look bad. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/90 "2018-11-15T19:43:48Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > …I have no idea why posters on this board are falling for such obvious lies by the administration. It’s really bizarre. I wonder if they also think the turnout for Trump’s inauguration was huge. One can argue over the effects of tax bills or deregulation, and who should get the credit, but some facts are just objective. > > I find this episode to be very strange. Nearly half the country are falling for lies from this administration. Some of those people happen to post on the SDMB ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/91 "2018-11-15T20:01:47Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > For folks who don’t want to watch the video, **Shodan’s** description above is absolutely false. > > An accurate description would be to say that part of Acosta’s arm brushed against the WH aide’s arm while she was trying to forcefully pull the microphone out of his grasp. Sorry man, but I wouldn’t say “part of Acosta’s arm brushed against the WH aide’s arm” It looks like to me that she reached for the microphone under his arm. He was bringing his arm down and made contact. It looks to me like he starts to push her arm down with his arm before he realized what he was doing. In any event, one of the comments on the video was along the lines of “Who cares who touched who first? The White House released a doctored video. THAT should be what people remember” should be the real takeaway. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/92 "2018-11-15T20:06:32Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Sorry man, but I wouldn’t say “part of Acosta’s arm brushed against the WH aide’s arm” > > It looks like to me that she reached for the microphone under his arm. He was bringing his arm down and made contact. It looks to me like he starts to push her arm down with his arm before he realized what he was doing. > > In any event, one of the comments on the video was along the lines of “Who cares who touched who first? The White House released a doctored video. THAT should be what people remember” should be the real takeaway. Your description doesn’t appear to conflict with mine. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/93 "2018-11-15T20:07:03Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > No, it is true. Watch the [CNN video and the sped up version](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXZ2jRZMLrg). Note the contact between Acosta and the intern which is evident in both versions. > > _:shrugs:_ I don’t suppose it will do any good. If someone is going to respond to a video posted by CNN showing Acosta putting his hand on a woman by saying that he didn’t put his hand on a woman, nothing is going to help. You seem to be describing a different video than the one you linked to. Perhaps you could edit your post with a link to the right video? Or ask a moderator to do it for you? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/94 "2018-11-15T20:20:35Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Your description doesn’t appear to conflict with mine. If someone asked me, I wouldn’t say he “brushed” her arm with his arm. Looks like he was deliberately trying to push down her arm with his arm, I would guess in order to stop her from taking the microphone. Pretty much a standard thing anyone would do when someone was trying to take something away like she was. It’s not like he smacked her or anything. I would say “brushed her arm with his arm” is too little and “put hands on her” is too much. ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/95 "2018-11-15T20:23:17Z")
You know things are fucked up when **manson1972** is the voice of reason! mc ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/96 "2018-11-15T20:33:05Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > In any event, one of the comments on the video was along the lines of “Who cares who touched who first? The White House released a doctored video. THAT should be what people remember” should be the real takeaway. The more I think about it, the real takeaways should be that Trump acted like an unhinged petulant child at his own press conference, lost his temper, insulted the media, called them the enemy of the people again, etc. The fact that we’re all talking about Acosta and a doctored video is a victory on the white house’s part. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/97 "2018-11-15T20:47:04Z")
> [@mikecurtis](#): > > You know things are fucked up when **manson1972** is the voice of reason! > > mc Yeah, I actively try not to do that. Still happens sometimes 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/98 "2018-11-15T20:59:35Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > The more I think about it, the real takeaways should be that Trump acted like an unhinged petulant child at his own press conference, lost his temper, insulted the media, called them the enemy of the people again, etc. > > The fact that we’re all talking about Acosta and a doctored video is a victory on the white house’s part. Not to mention that Trump has put this intern in the spotlight to take heat off of himself. Model of bravery. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/99 "2018-11-15T21:23:16Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > If someone asked me, I wouldn’t say he “brushed” her arm with his arm. Looks like he was deliberately trying to push down her arm with his arm, I would guess in order to stop her from taking the microphone. > > Pretty much a standard thing anyone would do when someone was trying to take something away like she was. It’s not like he smacked her or anything. > > I would say “brushed her arm with his arm” is too little and “put hands on her” is too much. Wouldn’t even say that. Really, look at the video. He was gesturing at trump moving his left arm forward. The intern reached in under his left arm and grabbed the mike surprising him and pulling on his right arm. At that point his left arm dropped. More of “Huh? What?”. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/100 "2018-11-15T21:28:51Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Wouldn’t even say that. Really, look at the video. He was gesturing at trump moving his left arm forward. The intern reached in under his left arm and grabbed the mike surprising him and pulling on his right arm. At that point his left arm dropped. More of “Huh? What?”. I did look at the video. It just seems like a natural reaction anyone would have with their arm above the arm that is grabbing for something. No big deal. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242.md?page=6)