# White House likley altered video of Jim Acosta **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 9, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242 "2018-11-09T15:06:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/121 "2018-11-16T15:59:57Z")
[WHITE HOUSE MUST RESTORE JIM ACOSTA PRESS PASS, JUDGE SAYS SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS CLAIM ‘LIKELY UNTRUE’](https://www.newsweek.com/jim-acosta-white-house-cnn-sarah-huckabee-sanders-1219635) > [@](#): > > Kelly said that the White House “must provide due process if they are to revoke Mr. Acosta’s hard pass” and that it was “likely untrue” that Acosta “laid hands” on a White House staffer, as Sarah Huckabee Sanders said he did during a heated press conference with President Donald Trump last Wednesday. Hmm… likely untrue. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/122 "2018-11-16T16:04:40Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > And he’s back! Temporarily, at least. I admit that I still don’t fully understand the legal basis for arguing that a specific reporter should have access to White House press briefings but I’m still pleased that journalists have some limited protections. > [@](#): > > Doesn’t mean Trump needs to ever call on him, of course. Or in any way acknowledge him. He won’t call on him but I betcha Trump still makes the effort to insult him. The rest of the press should let Acosta sit/stand front and center, directly in front of Trump or Sanders, just to make a point. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/123 "2018-11-16T16:12:27Z")
Mmm. Seats are generally assigned based upon seniority and how big a readership/viewership a reporters outlet represents. Some of that got blown up during the GWB administration. Used to be the dean of the Press Corps got to ask the first question but Helen Thomas started getting passed then. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/124 "2018-11-16T16:24:07Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Like I said, I didn’t expect it to do any good. > > Regards, > Shodan This is what happens when you pee on someone’s leg and then tell them it’s raining. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/125 "2018-11-16T16:26:06Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > Hmm… likely untrue. The judge didn’t watch the video? ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/126 "2018-11-16T16:29:38Z")
> [@x-ray\_vision](#): > > At the 4 second mark he is pointing at the President with his elbow bent. She goes in to grab the microphone and gets a hold of it. As she does so, she makes contact with his hand with the crook of her elbow. He immediately pushes down forcefully into the crook of her elbow to make her mike grab unsuccessful. That’s the way it appears to me. Honestly, this is how I saw it, too. That said, it’s a far, far cry from anything resembling “assault.” The WH was looking for any reason under the sun to pull Acosta’s pass because he’s a terrible, grandstanding reporter. He doesn’t actually report so much as just throw barbs. To be clear, I don’t think Trump is a good president, but Acosta’s silliness is not the best way to call him out. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/127 "2018-11-16T16:41:26Z")
> [@Razncain](#): > > _Putting your hand/hands on a woman_ has certain connotations, usually taken as physical assault and sometimes sexual assault, wouldn’t you agree? “Putting your hand on a woman” means putting your hand on a woman. > [@](#): > > This didn’t happen; neither Acosta or the woman did anything wrong. The woman in question didn’t do anything wrong. > [@](#): > > We’d all be in jail if this is all it took. I don’t think he should go to jail. I think the White House is justified in revoking his press pass, for being a rude asshole who tries to monopolize the press conference for his own self-aggrandizement, and for putting his hand on the intern who was trying to stop him from monopolizing the press conference. Look, I get it - the SDMB would like nothing better than to turn every press conference into an event where reporters take turns being rude assholes to Trump. The problem was, Acosta didn’t want to take turns. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/128 "2018-11-16T16:43:47Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > " > I think the White House is justified in revoking his press pass, for being a rude asshole who tries to monopolize the press conference for his own self-aggrandizement, and for putting his hand on the intern who was trying to stop him from monopolizing the press conference. Except, again, as noted above several times (and you keep ignoring it because you got caught stating something that was so easily disproven) that’s not why the White House said they revoked his press pass. The revoked his press pass for an assault that didn’t happen. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/129 "2018-11-16T16:43:58Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > The judge didn’t watch the video? Yeah, “likely untrue,” is just a weird choice of words in this situation from a judge. It’s also annoying that the linked Newsweek article quotes only those two words. I’d at least like to see the whole sentence and maybe more to get a better understanding of the context. Still, without that context, my read is that this was the Judge’s polite way of calling it a lie, but I’m less than 100% sure of that interpretation. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/130 "2018-11-16T16:45:02Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > “Putting your hand on a woman” means putting your hand on a woman. Which Acosta clearly didn’t do. Glad we’re all in agreement here. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/131 "2018-11-16T16:49:11Z")
[MSNBC Tweet](https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1063473269779693569) > [@](#): > > In response to the judge’s ruling, the White House also says it "will also further develop rules and processes to ensure fair and orderly press conferences in the future. There must be decorum at the White House.” Yeah… decorum. Describe the Trump White House in one word? Decorum. ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/132 "2018-11-16T17:02:03Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > The problem was, Acosta didn’t want to take turns. If he was booted because other members of the press were making that complaint, I feel it would be perfectly acceptable to boot him for that reason. The other members of the press did not express that concern and that’s not the reason he was booted. In his style I think his first question back should be “Mr Trump how do you feel about the court telling you, you are a loser in regards to your attempt to ban me?” ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/133 "2018-11-16T17:14:05Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > …and for putting his hand on the intern… Yes, but you see Acosta didn’t put… Ah, forget it. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/134 "2018-11-16T17:18:23Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Like I said, I didn’t expect it to do any good. At what point did you realize your argument wasn’t any good? Was it after you watched the video? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/135 "2018-11-16T17:25:25Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > “Putting your hand on a woman” means putting your hand on a woman. Ah. I didn’t realize you were denying the existence of idiomatic speech. Yes, Jim Acosta put his hand on a woman here, and almost certainly in thousands of previous incidents, going back to his infancy. He probably put his hand on his mother’s cheek when he was only hours old, and he’s likely put his hands on his wife when he hugs her. But that’s not the context in which the expression is used here. When someone reaches across you to grab something from you, and you reflexively pull your arms close to your body, and a hand incidentally brushes against the other person’s arm (which may or may not have happened, the video isn’t clear enough to show whether it’s his lower hand or his wrist), that’s totally innocuous and unremarkable. The phrase “put his hand on a woman” idiomatically implies assault, which obviously didn’t happen, as I’m sure you agree. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/136 "2018-11-16T17:32:56Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > and for putting his hand on the intern Still going with that, huh? Weird. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/137 "2018-11-16T17:33:19Z")
By the way, the woman who approached Acosta and forcefully tried to take the mic out of his hands is not an intern, but the Deputy Press Secretary: [https://twitter.com/Pteratorn/status/1063468644036943873](https://twitter.com/Pteratorn/status/1063468644036943873) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/138 "2018-11-16T17:35:15Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > When someone reaches across you to grab something from you, and you reflexively pull your arms close to your body, and a hand incidentally brushes against the other person’s arm (which may or may not have happened, the video isn’t clear enough to show whether it’s his lower hand or his wrist), that’s totally innocuous and unremarkable. The phrase “put his hand on a woman” idiomatically implies assault, which obviously didn’t happen, as I’m sure you agree. What you’re clearly failing to acknowledge here, **LHoD** , is that Acosta gave the intern “press cooties”. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/139 "2018-11-16T17:49:35Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > By the way, the woman who approached Acosta and forcefully tried to take the mic out of his hands is not an intern, but the Deputy Press Secretary: > > [https://twitter.com/Pteratorn/status/1063468644036943873](https://twitter.com/Pteratorn/status/1063468644036943873) > [@Shodan](#): > > the intern Still going with that, huh? Weird. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/140 "2018-11-16T17:56:32Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > By the way, the woman who approached Acosta and forcefully tried to take the mic out of his hands is not an intern, but the Deputy Press Secretary: > > [https://twitter.com/Pteratorn/status/1063468644036943873](https://twitter.com/Pteratorn/status/1063468644036943873) Your link doesn’t work for me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242.md?page=8)