# white men are obsolete

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-men-are-obsolete/426694>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 16, 2007, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-men-are-obsolete/426694 "2007-11-16T15:35:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-men-are-obsolete/426694/21 "2007-11-16T16:46:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Anaamika]  
The British -

Enslaved or ruled everyone they could  
Took over the world  
Raped the environment  
Killed animals just because  
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Exactly.

> [@](#):
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> BUT they also
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> -Pretty much put a stop to the practice of _suttee_ in India (If you don’t know what that is, you should be ashamed, and go look it up
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> - Brought modern amenities to India
> - Were the first step in relaxing the caste system
> - Helped make it possible for women to get an education

Obviously this is incorrect. Suttee only existed because of White Men in the first place. If the historical record doesn’t show this, then that’s because it was written by white men. Or maybe Suttee is good because it’s a native practice which was destroyed by cultural imperialism. Or something. I’m a white man and cannot comprehend the issue properly due to my innate inferiority. Maybe it wa introduced by those evil white men who invaded India from the north way back when. They probably introduced the caste system.

And of course, women having an education or not being brutally murdered for being raped is only white man’s culture. Our filthy racist white standards shouldn’t be held against other cultures.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-men-are-obsolete/426694/22 "2007-11-16T16:48:43Z")

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Without us white men, how will the rest of you look good at the beach?

Jeez, people- _think_!

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-men-are-obsolete/426694/23 "2007-11-16T16:50:15Z")

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Off to the Pit.

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-men-are-obsolete/426694/24 "2007-11-16T16:57:19Z")

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[QUOTE=smiling bandit]  
White men are obsolete. We should all be exterminated.  
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Whaddaya mean, “we”, white man?

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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-men-are-obsolete/426694/25 "2007-11-16T17:00:59Z")

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[QUOTE=smiling bandit]  
:rolleyes:

This a non-pitting of the trash I’m constantly hit with claiming that white men are teh devi1. That we’re always oppressing people and our mere existence is oppressive and we can never NOT be racist. It gets real old, and it’s really depressing.

And I’m very sad.  
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There’s worse shit in the world to be sad about than the white mans supposed oppression. Read the news for an hour or so.

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**Author:** ![Zambini57](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/4491bb/32.png) [@Zambini57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zambini57)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-men-are-obsolete/426694/26 "2007-11-16T17:05:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Anaamika]  
Ok, hang on a moment. Speaking as someone whose parents still talk about the British occupation of India, and who has a similar love-hate relationship to them as my parents, I can’t agree.

The British -

Enslaved or ruled everyone they could  
Took over the world  
Raped the environment  
Killed animals just because

BUT they also

-Pretty much put a stop to the practice of _suttee_ in India (If you don’t know what that is, you should be ashamed, and go look it up

- Brought modern amenities to India
- Were the first step in relaxing the caste system
- Helped make it possible for women to get an education

And most recently, I found out a very small but touching fact about the British. I did not know the India Gate, which is a memorial to fallen British and Indian soldiers in WWII, was made by the British. I certainly didn’t know it was a tribute to the Indians, too. At that time the British must have been realizing they were at the end of their days in India - the war was in the 30’s and 40’s and the occupation ended in 1947. Yet they still did this small act of acknowledgement, and it touches me.  
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The “settee” did you say?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-men-are-obsolete/426694/27 "2007-11-16T17:08:37Z")

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There is no such thing as “white”. Or worse, “White”. The OP is self-serving drivel of the lowest order.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-men-are-obsolete/426694/28 "2007-11-16T17:14:12Z")

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:rolleyes:

Just what we need-- another class of “victims”. The OP is the same kind of bullshit that he is trying to trash. Just a stupid straw man that no one this board is going to support and few, if any, people IRL would, either.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-men-are-obsolete/426694/29 "2007-11-16T17:16:06Z")

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You say “bullshit”, I say “drivel”. Let’s call the whole thing “offal”.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-men-are-obsolete/426694/30 "2007-11-16T17:18:31Z")

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“White” and “whine” have only one letter different. A coincidence? I begin to think not.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-men-are-obsolete/426694/31 "2007-11-16T17:19:53Z")

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Or, in other words:  
Nobody likes me.  
Everybody hates me.  
I guess I’ll eat worms.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-men-are-obsolete/426694/32 "2007-11-16T17:20:52Z")

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Well, I’m white and male, but I balance that out by being gay. Do I get to live?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-men-are-obsolete/426694/33 "2007-11-16T17:21:55Z")

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[QUOTE=elucidator]  
There is no such thing as “white”. Or worse, “White”. The OP is self-serving drivel of the lowest order.  
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So white is not a commonly used shorthand for pale skinned people of mostly European descent?

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-men-are-obsolete/426694/34 "2007-11-16T17:23:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Antinor01]  
Well, I’m white and male, but I balance that out by being gay. Do I get to live?  
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Yes. You are part of the oppressed class. I apologize for insensitivity and will go on a mandatory 8-week Diversity Workshop before I walk off the Grand Canyon with the other oppressors.

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-men-are-obsolete/426694/35 "2007-11-16T17:25:08Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
So white is not a commonly used shorthand for pale skinned people of mostly European descent?  
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Yeah, that stupid fucking Census Bureau has got a lot of ‘splainin’ to do!

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-men-are-obsolete/426694/36 "2007-11-16T17:28:13Z")

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[QUOTE=smiling bandit]  
Yes. You are part of the oppressed class. I apologize for insensitivity and will go on a mandatory 8-week Diversity Workshop before I walk off the Grand Canyon with the other oppressors.  
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Woohoo! Who knew that being a fag would be my get out of the canyon walk free card?

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-men-are-obsolete/426694/37 "2007-11-16T17:33:22Z")

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[QUOTE=SkipMagic]  
Off to the Pit.  
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_Oh pirates, yes they rob I  
Sold I to the merchant ship  
Minutes after they took I  
To the BBQ Pit…_

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**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-men-are-obsolete/426694/38 "2007-11-16T17:47:20Z")

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[QUOTE=elucidator]  
There is no such thing as “white”. Or worse, “White”. The OP is self-serving drivel of the lowest order.  
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Goddam. You really are as stupid as you seem to be.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-men-are-obsolete/426694/39 "2007-11-16T17:49:51Z")

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You can sweet talk me all you want, but its still dinner and a show, minimum.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-men-are-obsolete/426694/40 "2007-11-16T17:52:04Z")

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[QUOTE=DaphneBlack]

But seriously, white men are not, as a class, oppressed in Europe and the United States. White men are _in charge_. You are not prevented from reaching your full potential. I’m sorry people are giving you totally undeserved shit about how white men are evil, devils, whatever. But that should not make you sad. It should make you roll your eyes and continue doing whatever you’re doing.  
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White people are not in charge, RICH PEOPLE are in charge. The real division in America is class, not race. That the rich people in America happen to be mostly white means nothing to dirt poor whites in rust-belt towns with no farms, no factories, no homes, and no money. I understand the OP is a joke and this discussion is absurd but I still need to point this out. Not to mention that our economy is practically held hostage by OPEC and China - neither of whom involve whitey.

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