# White Nationalism, Part II **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 23, 2002, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-nationalism-part-ii/133522 "2002-10-23T14:18:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-nationalism-part-ii/133522/21 "2002-10-23T19:22:41Z")
Your still gonna be white though, arent you Esprix? Cuz, apparently thats important for some reason. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-nationalism-part-ii/133522/22 "2002-10-23T19:41:44Z")
> [@](#): > > The jew-made movie “Network” was all about an ARAB conspiracy in the U.S. to take over all the American media outlets and then control Americans’ thinking. In the movie, the main character famously said at one point “I’m mad as hell, and I’m not going to take it anymore!” I will let someone else tackle the rest of your post, but it’s obvious you have never seen **Network** , an eerily prescient satire about the sensationalism and dumbing-down of television news. William Holden palys a middle-aged television news executive who has an affair with the woman, (played by Faye Dunaway) who is wrecking his division. Peter Finch plays a news anchor who has gone insane , whose on-air tirade “I’m as mad as hell” taps into the national post-Watergate and Vietnam angst. A synopsis of the movie’s plot can be found[here](http://www.filmsite.org/netw.html). There are no Arabs and no mind control elements in the plot, although Dunaway’s character does hire a band of hippie revolutionaries to assassinate Peter Finch’s character live on television. ---
**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-nationalism-part-ii/133522/23 "2002-10-23T20:18:51Z")
Well, at least you got the forgery part right. FYI: [www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mzionprotocol.html](http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mzionprotocol.html) ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-nationalism-part-ii/133522/24 "2002-10-23T20:22:20Z")
> [@](#): > > Instead, there is a consensus among these men and women that multiculturalism/feminism/atheism is a good thing and that the US must accept it. Why are JEWS preaching Athiesm? Shouldn’t they be preaching Jewishness? ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-nationalism-part-ii/133522/25 "2002-10-23T20:45:35Z")
> [@](#): > > McDonald’s, which is doing its “Black365” program right out in the open. You say that like it’s a bad thing. :rolleyes: > **[Website Maintenance: Be Back Soon | McDonald’s](https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/errors/404.html)** > > Website Maintenance: Be Back Soon | McDonald’s Just one question for Halogen: If the Jews really are running America, then what happened in Florida 2000? Why couldn’t they get Joe Lieberman elected Vice-President? How did they manage to lose Florida? Why didn’t they “handle” that better? [http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/11/09/florida.voters/](http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/11/09/florida.voters/) > [@](#): > > Gore won big in southeast Florida with big help from African-Americans and Jewish voters. But apparently not enough help. Something went wrong somewhere. > **[Page Not Found](https://law.rutgers.edu/page-not-found)** > > Page Not Found > [@](#): > > The addition of Lieberman to the ticket may boost the Jewish turnout in the Presidential election from about 65% to more than 80%, according to Democrat pollsters. There are over six million Jewish voters in the U.S. and most reside in states now considered to be highly contested, such as New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Illinois, Michigan, and Florida. Usually, 70% of Jewish voters choose the Democrat Presidential candidate, but the Democrats now believe as much as 90% could vote for the Gore-Lieberman ticket. Somebody asleep at the switch or what? Winning Florida for the Al & Joe Show should have been a cakewalk, if the Jews really were running America. Flubbed it, big time. Oy. :smack: :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-nationalism-part-ii/133522/26 "2002-10-23T20:54:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Halogen \* > \*\*Instead, there is a consensus among these men and women that multiculturalism/feminism/atheism is a good thing and that the US must accept it. \*\* As opposed to racism/sexism/religious fundamentalism, all of which have brought oh-so-much love and happiness to this country? Since you’re on a roll, why don’t you explain for the viewing audience the horrors of feminism and athiesm, just to complete your conspiratorial trifecta? ---
**Author:** ![Sparc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Sparc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparc)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-nationalism-part-ii/133522/27 "2002-10-23T20:56:36Z")
With every post that passes the irrationality of the neo-Nazi position becomes more apparent to us all. With every post that passes the perceived rationality of theirs increases for them. Who did the NSDAP leaders try to negotiate a stopping of the bombing of Germany with in March 1945? The leaders of the Swedish Jewish community, to whom they appealed to save the Germans from the onslaught of the Zionists - as if FDR Joe and Winnie were just world conspiracy Jewish puppets. They really, really, really believed they were fighting the Jews. These guys are very sick. I mean very sick as in deluded to pathological levels. Thankfully the ones you are debating here don’t have the brains and power to turn whole countries into madhouses, but I’ll say it again: **Facts serve no purpose when you are debating against insanity and deluded irrationality**. Sparc ---
**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-nationalism-part-ii/133522/28 "2002-10-23T21:00:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by yojimbo \* > \*\* > > Jew led Communists? Stalin, Jew led? Are you for real? It wasn’t a barrel of laughs being Jewish in Stalin’s Russia you know. > > \*\* Yeah, being Georgian, Stalin was pretty much a Caucasian in the original sense. Plus he was a seminarian in his youth before becoming a disillusioned, genocidal atheist. ---
**Author:** ![Halogen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Halogen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Halogen)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-nationalism-part-ii/133522/29 "2002-10-23T21:07:12Z")
“Hollywood is run by Jews; it is owned by Jews-- and they should have a greater sensitivity about the issue of people who are suffering. Because we have seen… the greaseball, we’ve seen the chink, we’ve seen the slit-eyed dangerous Jap, we have seen the wily Filipino, we’ve seen everything but we never saw the kike. Because they knew perfectly well, that that is where you draw the [line.]” Marlon Brando on Larry King Live, April 5, 1996. Shortly thereafter, jewish hollywood types said Brando would never work again. He made a public apology to the jew Simon Wiesenthal and he has been allowed to make movies. “This stranglehold [of jews on the media] has got to be broken or our country is going down the drain.” Billy Graham in a taped conversation with President Nixon in 1972. This was brought forward in June and Graham, of course, apologized. Billy Graham Apologizes for Remarks, Associated Press June 26 2002. More names: Sulzberger: New York Times, Boston Globe, Family Circle, McCall’s, more. Newhouse Brothers: Advance Publications (newspaper conglomerate), Conde Nast Group, Parade, New Yorker, Vanity Fair, Vogue, Mademoiselle, GQ, Random House, more Ivan Reitman: director/producer Farelly Brothers: directors Howard Stern: radio and TV personality, producer Jerry Springer: TV personality Roger Altman: National Enquirer, Globe, Sun Weekly, World News, National Examiner. The Warner Brothers (of WB fame) Goldwyn and Mayer (of MetroGoldwynMayer). The jews exercise a dominance over the media that is entirely disproportionate to their 2.5% share of the population. They use the media to give us ideas for their own purposes. E.g. photopat watched a PBS TV show about how rotten white people are, and now he or she thinks that it is evil for whites to want to be separate. Probably thinks that it is evil to think that the races are unequal. Although I have no info on jew involvement in PBS, this is the kind of power that jews wield with their control of the media. [www.stormfront.org/forum](http://www.stormfront.org/forum) ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-nationalism-part-ii/133522/30 "2002-10-23T21:08:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Sparc \* > \*\* > **Facts serve no purpose when you are debating against insanity and deluded irrationality**. > > Sparc \*\* But it’s so much fun… ---
**Author:** ![Sparc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Sparc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparc)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-nationalism-part-ii/133522/31 "2002-10-23T21:25:42Z")
> [@](#): > > _Weirddave_ > > But it’s so much fun… OK I see your point… Shooting fish in a barrel and all that. Isn’t it frustrating that the fish just seems completely impervious to bullets though? On a message board like this they come across as pretty entertaining clowny idiots. The problem is that it isn’t so funny when you sit there in the middle of the red, black and white flags listening to them dribble and drool over how much they would love to “roast some kikes” or “string up some blackeys”. If you think these little despicable vermin are naught but entertaining chimps without brains, remember that their sickness sometimes spills from the humorously ridiculous into murderous violence. Remember [John Hron](http://www1.us.nizkor.org/hweb/people/h/hron-john/). Sparc ---
**Author:** ![light\_strand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a6a055/32.png) [@light\_strand](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/light_strand)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-nationalism-part-ii/133522/32 "2002-10-23T21:27:17Z")
> [@](#): > > The jews exercise a dominance over the media that is entirely disproportionate to their 2.5% share of the population. They use the media to give us ideas for their own purposes. And white men exercise a dominance over the government that is entirely disproportionate to their ~35% of the population. They use the government to give us ideas for their own purposes. Agree? ---
**Author:** ![Halogen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Halogen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Halogen)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-nationalism-part-ii/133522/33 "2002-10-23T21:28:11Z")
Originally posted by yojimbo Jew led Communists? Stalin, Jew led? Are you for real? It wasn’t a barrel of laughs being Jewish in Stalin’s Russia you know. RESPONSE: What do the following people have in common? Marx, Engels, the Jewish Bund, Jacob Schiff (a New Yorker who gave between $17 million and $24 million to the “Russian” revolutionaries), Kamenev, Zinoviev, Trotsky, Lenin’s wife, one and possibly two of Lenin’s grandmothers, Stalin’s brother-in-law, Rosa Luxemburg, Bela Kun, 9 of the “Hollywood 10”, and Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. They were all ethnic jews. Oh yeah- Antisemitism was a crime punishable by death in the early Soviet Union. Atheism: Jews spread atheism because Christianity has outlived its purpose and its moral strictures interfere with jew money-making. They gave us Christianity 2,000 years ago to get us to “turn the other cheek,” “love our enemies,” etc., but they retained the ethnocentric tenets of the Talmud for themselves. Have you ever seen jews recruiting door to door the way Mormons or Jehova’s Witnesses do? No- they don’t want you to be a part of their group. They want you to have the new religion- “tolerance”- which is like Christianity, but with just one Commandment: Thou Shalt Not Judge Others. ---
**Author:** ![Caffeine.addict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@Caffeine.addict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caffeine.addict)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-nationalism-part-ii/133522/34 "2002-10-23T21:34:44Z")
Halogen. Wow, you are really reaching at this point. Of the people on your list, two of them are dead, and one of them is Howard Stern. Dear God, you mean the brains behind the ZOG is Howard Stern!? By the way, I never did get an explanation of exactly what the Great Zionist conspiracy is. What are its goals? How was it implemented? What is the governing structure? ---
**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-nationalism-part-ii/133522/35 "2002-10-23T21:52:28Z")
is the SDMB clique[sup]TM[/sup] a part of this conspiracy? Cuz, I would like to think that if one imaginary secret society I was involved with was a part of a totally differant imaginary secret society, that someone would have told me. Course its a secret so maybe not. Who knows. ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-nationalism-part-ii/133522/36 "2002-10-23T22:03:50Z")
Here ya go, Brujo. Page O’ Links. Enjoy. [http://www.geocities.com/chopoffhead/jews.html](http://www.geocities.com/chopoffhead/jews.html) > [@](#): > > International Jewish Conspiracy Funniest part–links to these… > [@](#): > > Islamic Resistance Groups > > 1. Hamas > 2. Islamic Jihad > 3. Hizbullah Yep, those are links to those Islamic groups, and just as you’re going, “Huh?”, the website goes on to the punch line: > [@](#): > > The Jews many times use and support these groups to legitimize their own Terrorist agenda and strategy in the Holy Land… Now, tell me, Sparc, are these guys a laugh riot, or what? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![light\_strand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a6a055/32.png) [@light\_strand](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/light_strand)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-nationalism-part-ii/133522/37 "2002-10-23T22:05:09Z")
> [@](#): > > Have you ever seen jews recruiting door to door the way Mormons or Jehova’s Witnesses do? No- they don’t want you to be a part of their group. They want you to have the new religion- “tolerance”- which is like Christianity, but with just one Commandment: Thou Shalt Not Judge Others. I also haven’t seen Lutherans, Baptists, Episcopalians, or Catholics, Buddhists, Moslems, or Hindus doing this either. I guess these “Religions” are all part of the “Conspiracy” where these “Worshipers” all go to their “church” on Sunday. But really they’re just… I don’t know. Halogen, what are all of the other main stream religions doing? Clearly, since they aren’t recruiting, they can’t just be worshiping! ---
**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-nationalism-part-ii/133522/38 "2002-10-23T22:10:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Halogen \* > **Jews spread atheism because Christianity** Dude, you’re all over the place here. You’ve got one group, with its own philosophy, allegedly spreading a completely different philosophy because of yet a third group?! And this actually sounds _logical_ to you? ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-nationalism-part-ii/133522/39 "2002-10-23T22:23:21Z")
No, no **DDG** - It all makes sense. Christianity was just a Jewish ploy to weaken and confuse the poor gentiles while the Jews worked on their master plan to dominate the world. However it got a little out of control when the Christians began to be troublesome and what with Zoroastrianism ( another Jewish invention, obviously - look at the clear similarities ) not panning out the way they hoped, the Jews decided they needed to create Islam as a strategic counter. Brilliant, really - A religious counter-virus! 'course that partially backfired as well. Those darn wacky Jews! Always _just barely_ missing that brass ring of total world dominance. But now things are finally starting to pan out what with that world-media dominance, the fact that they have the apocalyptic-branch of fundamentalist Christians buffaloed into supporting them, AND now they have acquired the cooperation of Muslim suicide bombers to kill their own people so as to have moral cover while they continue their nefarious plans. Yessir, it all makes perfect sense :rolleyes: . - Tamerlane ---
**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-nationalism-part-ii/133522/40 "2002-10-23T22:27:32Z")
\*\*E.g. photopat watched a PBS TV show about how rotten white people are, and now he or she thinks that it is evil for whites to want to be separate. Probably thinks that it is evil to think that the races are unequal. Although I have no info on jew involvement in PBS, this is the kind of power that jews wield with their control of the media. \*\* Actually, the show was not about how “rotten white people are.” It was about how evilly _some_ white people have treated blacks throughout history. Of that I have no doubt. As to thinking the races are unequal, I don’t equate that with evil, rather with lack of information. Literally ignorance. Likewise the wish to live separately is not explicitely evil, but definitely grounded in fear and hate. By the way, the show I saw last night didn’t change my mind about anything, merely pointed out a few things I hadn’t known previously. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-nationalism-part-ii/133522.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-nationalism-part-ii/133522.md?page=3)