# White only prom

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 1, 2003, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443 "2003-05-01T18:53:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![SanibelMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@SanibelMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanibelMan)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2003, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/261 "2003-05-06T21:51:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by mouthbreather \*  
> \*\*Oh, go fuck yourself.  
> When you’re done, see if you can find an even bigger brush, you know, one that may cover the entire southeast. Actually, you’re from the USA, just like these kids in Albany, GA…don’t you give a shit about your image? :rolleyes: \*\*

Sorry to offend, I was too broad. Please allow me to rephrase and expand. What I should have posted is:

You know, I have my doubts that these guys will change their mind on the basis of equality, or racial harmony… but maybe if they thought they’d be the laughingstock of the nation, and people everywhere would be embarrassed to be associated with them, they’d think differently. After all, if nothing else works, you can always appeal to someone’s interest in their self-esteem and social standing.

As for you fuckers in Atlanta, SLOW THE FUCK DOWN! What the fuck is your problem there? I got passed by a cop on I-75 with 5 lanes of traffic and a 55 mph speed limit. I was going 90. I thought for sure I’d get a ticket, but he kept on going, and I followed him through the whole city. Just cruisin’, like everyone else. Scary shit.

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**Author:** ![SanibelMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@SanibelMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanibelMan)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2003, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/262 "2003-05-06T21:54:52Z")

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Not quite my whole post… please add to the end:

(off topic, but while we’re making broad generalities about Georgia) 😃

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**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2003, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/263 "2003-05-07T05:13:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by The Peyote Coyote \*  
> Zenster:  
> So of course you’re willing to call black racists niggers and hispanic [sic] racists spics? Thought not.

Who the fuck are you to know what I think or do not think?

[Homer Simpson]

Cram it! … With walnuts!

[/Homer Simpson]

I’ve got a black stepfather who is a picture perfect **nigger**.

My (white) blood-brother is also a picture perfect **nigger**.

NEITHER has made any sort of effort to support themselves for many years now. BOTH of them have served to drag down my Mother’s life and literally **kill** her. Be it through secondhand smoke, working her to death, brandishing weapons or stressing her beyond imagination. They both represent all that is **niggardly** about laziness and unproductiveness. I find few other adjectives more suited to their stunningly sloth-like mentality.

Nearly **all** of the Hispanic people I’ve **ever** met have been polite, productive and decent folk. If some of them prove to be assholes, I might even call them ‘spics.’ It’s not a term in my vocabulary, because it has little connection to my own reality.

Are you aware of where the term ‘cracker’ comes from?

Are you aware of where the term ‘nigger’ comes from?

Care to state your own perceptions?

Care to fuck off with your own prejudiced assessment of my stance on this?

Care to fuck off, period?

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> If you cannot comprehend my amused disgust for one who rants about discrimination against one group while using pejoratives against another, then you are so stupid you should stick your microcephalic head into a big bucket of shit and flush the bucket.

If you cannot comprehend the content of my own repeated postings that rail against bigotry of **all** sorts, then kindly suck hind tit.

I’ll use pejorative invective against all who strive desperately to earn it.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2003, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/264 "2003-05-07T05:53:20Z")

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Just to remind everyone, the word “niggardly” has no linguistic connection with the word “nigger.”

Thankyew.

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**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2003, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/265 "2003-05-07T06:01:49Z")

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> 2.) In the area where I live, “trailer park trash” is virtually identical with white trash.

Well, that doesn’t mean it’s the same thing. “white trash” calls attention to ones whiteness and thus race. Trailer Park Trash primarily calls attention to socioeconomic status.

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**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2003, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/266 "2003-05-07T08:23:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Miller \*  
> \*\*Just to remind everyone, the word “niggardly” has no linguistic connection with the word “nigger.”
> 
> Thankyew. \*\*

No, not fucking at all!

Main Entry: nig·ger  
Pronunciation: 'ni-g&r  
Function: noun  
Etymology: alteration of earlier neger, from Middle French negre, from Spanish or Portuguese negro, from negro black, from Latin niger  
Date: 1700  
1 usually offensive, see usage paragraph below : a black person  
2 usually offensive, see usage paragraph below : a member of any dark-skinned race  
3 : _a member of a socially disadvantaged class of persons_ \<it’s time for somebody to lead all of America’s niggers… all the people who feel left out of the political process – Ron Dellums\>  
usage Nigger in senses 1 and 2 can be found in the works of such writers of the past as Joseph Conrad, Mark Twain, and Charles Dickens, but it now ranks as perhaps the most offensive and inflammatory racial slur in English. Its use by and among blacks is not always intended or taken as offensive, but, except in sense 3, it is otherwise a word expressive of racial hatred and bigotry.  
[sub]EMPHASIS ADDED[/sub]

**Main Entry: nig·gard·ly**  
Pronunciation: -lE  
Function: adjective  
Date: 1571  
1 : _grudgingly mean about spending or granting_ : BEGRUDGING  
2 : provided in meanly limited supply  
synonym see STINGY

- nig·gard·li·ness noun
- niggardly adverb  
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The (familial) assholes I’m mentioning are indeed “Socially Disadvantaged” **and** “Mean,” by their own personal choice!

My black stepfather _and_ my white **brother** have both sought (at great length) to disinclude themselves from mainstream society and any sense of earning. Both have _intentionally_ rejected active participation in the world’s advancement. They are “disadvantaged” by personal choice.

They are both niggers and niggardly in their _self-imposed_ social disadvantage and simultaneously meager contribution to my own Mother’s life and society in general.

Any questions?

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2003, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/267 "2003-05-07T09:27:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Zenster \*  
> **No, not fucking at all!**

Zenster, you just confused the hell out of me there.

In case anyone thinks there is a connection, please check out this [http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mniggard.html](http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mniggard.html)

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> Sure, the origin of “niggard” is unclear, but not its timeline, which predates the N-word in the English language by a couple hundred years at least. “Niggard” comes up as early as Chaucer, late 14th century. The most commonly speculated origin is Scandanavian nig/Old Norse hnoggr, meaning miserly. Don’t know how much faith you want to put in Indo-European roots, but one meaning of the root ken- is conjectured to relate a family of words with a connotation implying closing, tightening, or pinching (the family of related words is hypothesized to include such n-words as nap, nibble, nod, nosh, neap, nip). The racial slur “nigger,” on the other hand, doesn’t enter the lexicon until the 1500’s, first as “neger” or “neeger,” obviously from the same root as the French negre and Spanish negro, words for the color black, which are derived from the Latin niger.

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**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2003, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/268 "2003-05-07T17:54:04Z")

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I have always maintained that niggers come in all colors. In fact, white niggers are among the very worst. To me, it is a state of mind and not a skin color. I know this is (to a degree) my own definition, but it also adheres to some of the dictionary’s meanings as well. I have no wish to confuse anyone.

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