# White only prom

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 1, 2003, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443 "2003-05-01T18:53:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![black\_rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@black\_rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/black_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2003, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/141 "2003-05-03T23:32:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by milroyj \*  
> \*\*On the other hand, all of the white students of Taylor highschool are not racist. All of the white students who attend the white prom are not racist. All of the white people in Taylor county are not racist.
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> But you assume the contrary. Pot=Kettle, if you ask me. \*\*

You’re right. They may not necessarily be racist, but if they attend the White Citizens Social and Sisterfuck, they’re morally bankrupt cowards, at best.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2003, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/142 "2003-05-03T23:34:46Z")

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> What if I said that a group of Blacks were lazy, stupid, crack-addicted, welfare queens, because of the way some of them fulfill and perpetuate those stereotypes?

If crack-addicted, welfare-abusing, lazy, stupid black people were complaining about the stereotypes portraying them as such, then I would say to them just what I said above. I don’t know why you think I would have a problem doing so just because I’m black.

Now, if someone said to me that I shouldn’t eat fried chicken in public because I would only be perpetuating a stereotype, I would tell them to go fuck themselves. Everyone eats fried chicken. It’s a harmless activity and in the grand scheme of stereotypes, the black-people-eating-fried-chicken stereotype is also harmless.

A racist deserves any amount of vitriol we can heap on them. If you don’t want to be called an ass-stain, don’t act like a racist. If you don’t want to be called a pigfucker, don’t act like a racist. If you don’t want to be called a brainless moron, don’t act like a racist. Finally, if you don’t want people to call you a racist DON’T ACT LIKE A FUCKING RACIST. This goes for both 70-year-olds and 17-year-olds.

Hope my point is clear this time.

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**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2003, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/143 "2003-05-03T23:37:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Zenster \*  
> \*\ ***milroyj** , here’s a bright shiny nickel, now go buy yourself a damned clue. Didn’t you just called these students (or their rules, it’s the same bloody thing) “stupid” as well?
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> Either way, these kids are intensely stupid.
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> **A** ) If they are unaware that their “whites only” ‘prom’ is blatantly racist, they are blindingly stupid.
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> **B** ) If they _are aware_ of how racist their “whites only” ‘prom’ is and still insist on having it (segregated). Then they are stupid to the point of being evil.  
> I’ll let you decide. \*\*

Nah, keep it, you obviously need it.

How is inviting whomever you want to a private party evil?

I suppose after monstro’s picnic, you will be inviting me to your 4th of July bash, right?

We are not talking about job discrimination, or housing, or public accomodations, or voting rights, or citizenship, or anything else. It’s a freaking high school party. Maybe you should save your vitriol for something truly worth fighting for?

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2003, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/144 "2003-05-03T23:46:34Z")

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> BTW why all the hub-bub about the white prom? why not more hub-bub about the black prom?

Because there is no black prom anymore. They realized it was stupid and ceased with that particular tradition.

Reading comprehension…it’s a wonderful thing!

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> _Originally posted by milroyj_On the other hand, all of the white students of Taylor highschool are not racist. All of the white students who attend the white prom are not racist. All of the white people in Taylor county are not racist.

And who has said that they are, **milroyj**? Who has called ALL the white kids _racist_?

I’m reserving my vitriol for the group of kids who are planning this event. I’m not even judging the kids who are going to attend, because I realize that it takes a strong person to make the right, moral choice sometimes.

I think you’re being argumentative on purpose. I wish you would stop.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2003, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/145 "2003-05-03T23:51:30Z")

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> I suppose after monstro’s picnic, you will be inviting me to your 4th of July bash, right?

Nah, I change my mind about you being argumentative on purpose. This requires having some amount of intelligence. It’s now obvious that you have none.

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/146 "2003-05-04T00:01:56Z")

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> Now, if someone said to me that I shouldn’t eat fried chicken in public because I would only be perpetuating a stereotype, I would tell them to go fuck themselves. Everyone eats fried chicken. It’s a harmless activity

That fried chicken was most likely fried in transfat which is strongly suspected to be harmful, alsong with all that oil soaked breading - so don’t be spreading rumors about it beign a harmless activity.

Ok no ‘black’ prom, or are the people who fall into the ‘black promgoer’ catagory just taking advantage of a freebee (so in reality there is a black prom but at the school’s (really taxpayers) expense?

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**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/147 "2003-05-04T00:10:24Z")

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> \*Originally posted by monstro \*  
> **And who has said that they are, milroyj? Who has called ALL the white kids _racist_?**

Well, that’s the impression I got from **World Eater** ’s comments like “Fucking ass backward fucks”. Isn’t calling a group of 220 kids or so _anything_ ignorant?

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**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/148 "2003-05-04T00:15:25Z")

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I was going to bring the creamy, garlickly potato salad to your picnic, **monstro**. You would have liked it, I think!

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/149 "2003-05-04T00:16:14Z")

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This particular thread is infested with idiots. And I’m an idiot for responding to them.

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> That fried chicken was most likely fried in transfat which is strongly suspected to be harmful, alsong with all that oil soaked breading - so don’t be spreading rumors about it beign a harmless activity.

You must have gone to maximum brain power to produce a gem like that, **kanicbird**.

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> Ok no ‘black’ prom, or are the people who fall into the ‘black promgoer’ catagory just taking advantage of a freebee (so in reality there is a black prom but at the school’s (really taxpayers) expense?

Please don’t post to this thread again until you 1) read the fucking article and 2)understand the fucking article. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Super\_Gnat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Super\_Gnat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Super_Gnat)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/150 "2003-05-04T00:23:22Z")

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**milroyj** , what are you looking at? What in **World Eater** ’s reply would cause you to believe that he referred to _all_ the white students in the school?

**kanicbird** , how do you know that no white students will be showing up at the integrated prom?  
Especially since the article itself states, “many whites say they still plan to attend next week’s integrated prom”? And even if none did, how would that be the black students’ fault?

On preview: You go, **monstro**. Fight the good (though probably ultimately pointless) fight.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/151 "2003-05-04T00:24:00Z")

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> Well, that’s the impression I got from World Eater’s comments like “Fucking ass backward fucks”. Isn’t calling a group of 220 kids or so anything ignorant?

Let me help you understand…

HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE SMALL GROUP OF STUDENTS PLANNING A WHITES-ONLY PROM.

Why would you think he was talking about all the white kids unless you’re just being an obtuse asshole?

And why is it ignorant to call 220 kids _anything_? Why does the number matter? If 220 kids are acting like dummies, we are well-justified in calling them all dummies. But no one called 220 kids _anything_. You need to learn how to follow a thread without jumping to crazy-ass conclusions.

Keep your nasty potato salad to yourself. Culinary contributions aside, I’m glad you aren’t invited to my picnic.

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**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/152 "2003-05-04T00:40:53Z")

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Hey, if you want to base your racist comments on the actions of the few, have at it. Or are you one of those fuckwads who think that only white people can be racist?

If you don’t like potato salad, I can bring cole slaw, if you like.

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**Author:** ![Super\_Gnat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Super\_Gnat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Super_Gnat)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/153 "2003-05-04T00:50:11Z")

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**milroyj** , what the hell are you talking about? Are you literate?

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/154 "2003-05-04T00:54:14Z")

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**Super Gnat** , he’s obviously profoundly mentally handicapped. I think we should leave him alone.

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**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/155 "2003-05-04T00:54:56Z")

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What I am talking about is the spurious accusations of racism, where there is NO EVIDENCE that any exists.

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**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/156 "2003-05-04T00:56:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by monstro \*  
> \*\ ***Super Gnat** , he’s obviously profoundly mentally handicapped. I think we should leave him alone. \*\*

What, you don’t like cole slaw either? Damn, you’re hard to please.

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**Author:** ![Hairy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/22d042/32.png) [@Hairy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hairy)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/157 "2003-05-04T01:01:43Z")

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Whether you like it or not people will tend to “hang” with there own type e.g caucasian chinese african-american . It is unfortunate that some people see this as an excuse to racially vilify others but it is a fact of life. I’m sure that we have enough discrimination in regards employment policies and educational opportunities to "fix " any previous injustices that undeniably were visited upon many minority groups in the past. I believe that everbody should concentrate upon being fair and just to ALL people and treat them as you would have them treat you. Individuals have the right to be individuals seperately or en-masse. Stop having a cow about stuff we can’t fix and get on with your life. The crap about legal action is exactly the sort of shit that takes these situations out of control of the people who rightly should control them. Namely the Kids and their parents. Bottomline is no-one is going to be hurt and who knows maybe next year they will go back to the common gig. But if they don’t so what?

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**Author:** ![Super\_Gnat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Super\_Gnat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Super_Gnat)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/158 "2003-05-04T01:03:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by milroyj \*  
> What I am talking about is the spurious accusations of **racism** , where there is NO EVIDENCE that any exists. [bolding mine]

I do not think this word means what you think it means. You see, to all other humans, it can refer to discrimination against those of a certain skin color. In holding a whites-only prom, which by its very nature discriminates against non-whites, the students organizing it would, indeed, seem to be racist by definition.

**monstro** , you’re probably right. But it’s hard to let such idiocy go unchallenged.

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**Author:** ![black\_rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@black\_rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/black_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/159 "2003-05-04T01:05:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by milroyj \*  
> \*\*…there is NO EVIDENCE that any exists. \*\*

Jesus…

There was more native intelligence in loaf I just pinched off than in any of your posts in this thread. Really.

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**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-only-prom/172443/160 "2003-05-04T01:09:22Z")

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Enough already, really. It’s a fucking private, highschool party. They can invite whomever they wish. If your sorry ass isn’t invited, TOO DAMN BAD. Get over it.

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