…are you now or have you ever been a “black youth?”
Are you aware that you cannot get financial aide for college if you have any drug charges, at all?
It did.
He got a cop holding a gun on him and threatening to “blow his head off”. That counts as “almost getting shot” in my book.
:dubious: Something “minor”? How often do you have cops getting up in your business because you’re sitting in your own parked car outside your own home, and then pulling a gun on you and threatening to blow your head off when you try to explain to them that nothing’s wrong? If something like that happened to me, I damn sure wouldn’t be considering it “something minor”.
As far as I can tell, puddleglum isn’t denying that it’s likely that there are lots of obstacles that black people face that white people do not, he just doesn’t think they add up to anything significant.
Interestingly, I do have to walk this back. I haven’t applied for student aid in quite some time, and things have changed a bit.
In 2009, the laws were changed a bit, to where for mere possession, they won’t lose eligibility forever, and if they aren’t enrolled in school at the time, it doesn’t count.
If they get charged with dealing though, that’s still enough to get them ineligible for 2 years, and forever for a second offense, regardless of whether they were in school.
But, it still puts all the kids who got popped before 2009 at a serious disadvantage, so it is still very relevant to people who are still struggling, and it still effects employment and housing eligibility.
The notion that black people whose professional success is impeded or delayed because of prejudice against their appearance, much less black people who get actually threatened at gunpoint by cops when they haven’t done anything wrong, should just suck it up and get over themselves because “there are people in the world with actual problems” has got to be the most obliviously white-privileged thing I ever heard anybody say.
I believe that generally, those who assert the existence of “white privilege” assert that it exists nationwide. Thus, the racial composition of Cuyahoga County is not relevant. Obviously to prove that “white privilege” exists, one would need to prove the existence of privileges exclusive to whites, and not applying to any other race. Comparisons that only involve whites and blacks don’t establish any such thing.
That doesn’t address my point. If the definition depends “a majority population being treated better”, then to test the claim it would be necessary to have a clear definition of who that majority is. But the definitions of races in America is completely arbitrary. Most official sources recognize five groups (Asian, black, Hispanic, Native American, white) for reasons that go back classifications from the Nixon Administration in order to create affirmative action. They could just as correctly have officially recognized four races, or six, or seven, or fifty-nine. The boundaries between the five races are also arbitrary.
Sounds like a hypothesis that isn’t falsifiable.
Wait, what? That makes no sense. Of course societal privilege is both relative and context-dependent, as per the point I made in a previous post about the existence of “female privilege” in the form of lower vulnerability to certain kinds of risks.
Your objection is akin to saying that in order to acknowledge the existence of societal bias in favor of tall men, we’d have to prove that men over a certain height benefit from exclusive privileges that don’t apply to any shorter men. Which is absurd.
Everybody’s got privilege of one sort or another compared to somebody else, usually many different sorts and degrees of privilege. There’s straight privilege, cis privilege, male privilege, looks privilege, and all kinds of others.
Heh. This from the devotee of rigorous Spockian analysis who posts stuff like this:
And this:
In other words, ITR champion, when you see a claim about a social phenomenon that you feel inclined to agree with, you don’t demand impossibly rigid scientific validation in order to accept it; and when you see a claim about a social phenomenon that you don’t want to agree with, you do.
The residents called for harsher drug law enforcement and sentencing, not “efforts to reduce drug use”. Stop and frisk is a tactic used to harshly enforce drug laws.
Paternalistic progressive whites played a role in bringing harsh drug law enforcement to black neighborhoods, but to blame them for it is wrong. The residents of the communities were clamoring for it through political action. Another progressive attempt to deny black agency.