# White republican wins election by fooling black voters
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-republican-wins-election-by-fooling-black-voters/673667
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [November 11, 2013, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-republican-wins-election-by-fooling-black-voters/673667 "2013-11-11T19:51:02Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2013, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-republican-wins-election-by-fooling-black-voters/673667/141 "2013-11-15T15:54:50Z")
> [@Terr](#):
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> Can you point out where he claimed that it was the politician that endorsed him?
A justification just as paper thin as those given by eBay scammers.
“Please point out where I claimed you were buying an actual iPad instead of a picture of an iPad for $350”.
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### Author:  [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2013, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-republican-wins-election-by-fooling-black-voters/673667/142 "2013-11-15T15:57:28Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> A justification just as paper thin as those given by eBay scammers.
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> “Please point out where I claimed you were buying an actual iPad instead of a picture of an iPad for $350”.
You would have to point to an actual example.
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### Author:  [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2013, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-republican-wins-election-by-fooling-black-voters/673667/143 "2013-11-15T15:58:12Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> A justification just as paper thin as those given by eBay scammers.
That’s not really true. Thieves don’t stick around making lame excuses; they just run away with the money. So you could argue that making excuses for such people is an even more degrading and pointless occupation.
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### Author:  [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2013, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-republican-wins-election-by-fooling-black-voters/673667/144 "2013-11-15T16:08:52Z")
> [@Terr](#):
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> In this case the negative was “letting the voters know I am white”.
Correct. When dealing with racists, being the wrong race is a negative. I guess we should go back to requiring that everyone list their race on public documents, so they can’t trick us.
Regards,
Shodan
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### Author:  [@Karrius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karrius)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2013, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-republican-wins-election-by-fooling-black-voters/673667/145 "2013-11-15T16:14:14Z")
Terr agrees all republican politicians are dishonest, deceive voters, and cannot be trusted. He still supports them anyway.
This statement is true, and perfectly ok to say to describe Terr, by his own logic.
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### Author:  [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2013, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-republican-wins-election-by-fooling-black-voters/673667/146 "2013-11-15T16:22:58Z")
> [@Shodan](#):
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> Correct.
Where was the rest of his resume, then?
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### Author:  [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2013, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-republican-wins-election-by-fooling-black-voters/673667/147 "2013-11-15T16:25:37Z")
> [@Karrius](#):
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> Terr agrees all republican politicians are dishonest, deceive voters, and cannot be trusted.
And all democrat politicians as well.
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### Author:  [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-republican-wins-election-by-fooling-black-voters/673667/148 "2013-11-15T16:26:23Z")
> [@Terr](#):
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> And all democrat politicians as well.
From what I recall you haven’t applauded that in past threads. That’ll be fun to watch going forward.
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### Author:  [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2013, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-republican-wins-election-by-fooling-black-voters/673667/149 "2013-11-15T16:27:51Z")
> [@Terr](#):
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> You would have to point to an actual example.
[Feel free to fast forward to 2:20](http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c25_1336370275&comments=1)
Ok, technically it wasn’t a picture of an iPad for $350, it was 2 pictures of cell phones for $450.
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### Author:  [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2013, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-republican-wins-election-by-fooling-black-voters/673667/150 "2013-11-15T16:28:53Z")
> [@Marley23](#):
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> From what I recall you haven’t applauded that in past threads. That’ll be fun to watch going forward.
I don’t applaud facts. I just state them. I liked the kung-fu elegance of turning the democrat “strength” of having hoards of low-information reflex voters against themselves in this case, I have to admit.
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### Author:  [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2013, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-republican-wins-election-by-fooling-black-voters/673667/151 "2013-11-15T16:31:06Z")
> [@Terr](#):
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> I don’t applaud facts.
:rolleyes:
> [@Terr](#):
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> Of course I like the guy, it’s political kung-fu at its best, albeit at low political level.
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### Author:  [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2013, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-republican-wins-election-by-fooling-black-voters/673667/152 "2013-11-15T16:31:28Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> [Feel free to fast forward to 2:20](http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c25_1336370275&comments=1)
It doesn’t show the auction page or the description in the auction. Show it.
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### Author:  [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2013, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-republican-wins-election-by-fooling-black-voters/673667/153 "2013-11-15T16:32:28Z")
> [@Marley23](#):
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> :rolleyes:
:rolleyes: the next two sentences after the one that you quoted.
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### Author:  [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2013, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-republican-wins-election-by-fooling-black-voters/673667/154 "2013-11-15T16:46:19Z")
> [@Terr](#):
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> I don’t applaud facts. I just state them. I liked the kung-fu elegance of turning the democrat “strength” of having hoards of low-information reflex voters against themselves in this case, I have to admit.
Pot, meet kettle. Always amusing when conservatives claim that Democrats are the ones who lean more on low-information voters.
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### Author:  [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2013, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-republican-wins-election-by-fooling-black-voters/673667/155 "2013-11-15T17:18:51Z")
> [@Terr](#):
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> It doesn’t show the auction page or the description in the auction. Show it.
You’re right, I’m a complete idiot for thinking that you have the capacity to engage in an honest discussion.
My bad.
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### Author:  [@Karrius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karrius)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2013, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-republican-wins-election-by-fooling-black-voters/673667/156 "2013-11-15T17:45:55Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> You’re right, I’m a complete idiot for thinking that you have the capacity to engage in an honest discussion.
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> My bad.
Is Terr claiming they aren’t scammers? Is he making a general argument in favor of dishonesty? I… I don’t understand why he needs a cite saying that scams on ebay exist. If I mentioned that sometimes people get murdered, am I going to have to prove that too?
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### Author:  [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2013, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-republican-wins-election-by-fooling-black-voters/673667/157 "2013-11-15T17:52:55Z")
> [@Karrius](#):
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> Is Terr claiming they aren’t scammers?
I am sure there are scammers. I am still to see an example of the scam presented.
> [@](#):
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> Is he making a general argument in favor of dishonesty? I… I don’t understand why he needs a cite saying that scams on ebay exist. If I mentioned that sometimes people get murdered, am I going to have to prove that too?
If an Ebay seller claims to be selling an IPad for $350 and instead sends a picture of one, that’s fraud. If an Ebay seller claims to be selling a picture of an IPad for $350 and someone pays him for that, and gets the picture, that’s not fraud. So - which one was it?
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### Author:  [@Karrius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karrius)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2013, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-republican-wins-election-by-fooling-black-voters/673667/158 "2013-11-15T18:09:36Z")
Why does this even matter? This is the perfect example of the “Ask for cites for the most common, bullshit things, even if it has nothing to do with anything at hand in order to derail the topic” that the conservatives on this board LOVE to do.
But no, the “picture” thing is very common, where they say “picture of” in extremely tiny, fine print somewhere that’s hard to see, and then list specs, say it’s new in box, etc, etc in large print as if you’re getting the actual device. It’s considered a scam, and a bannable offense by ebay. Do you think it’s NOT a scam? If so, it’s really amazing how heartless and evil conservatives are! As long as you can get away with it, it’s ok, apparently.
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### Author:  [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2013, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-republican-wins-election-by-fooling-black-voters/673667/159 "2013-11-15T18:10:22Z")
> [@Karrius](#):
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> But no, the “picture” thing is very common, where they say “picture of” in extremely tiny, fine print somewhere that’s hard to see, and then list specs, say it’s new in box, etc, etc in large print as if you’re getting the actual device.
Show me. It’s very common after all.
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### Author:  [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2013, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-republican-wins-election-by-fooling-black-voters/673667/160 "2013-11-15T18:12:29Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> You’re right, I’m a complete idiot for thinking that you have the capacity to engage in an honest discussion.
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> My bad.
**Cheesesteak** , you know better than this. Phrasing it this way doesn’t make it not an insult.
**twickster** , Elections moderator
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