# White smoke! We have a Pope!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-smoke-we-have-a-pope/652838>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 13, 2013, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-smoke-we-have-a-pope/652838 "2013-03-13T18:10:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-smoke-we-have-a-pope/652838/81 "2013-03-13T19:45:41Z")

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[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16034801&postcount=4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16034801&postcount=4)

The above is from another Pope thread.

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**Author:** ![Sparky\_the\_Wonder\_Spirit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Sparky\_the\_Wonder\_Spirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky_the_Wonder_Spirit)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-smoke-we-have-a-pope/652838/82 "2013-03-13T19:46:06Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> Meet the new Pope, same as the old Pope:
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> [Speaking about Argentina’s gay marriage bill in 2010](http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/07/13/catholic-cardinal-says-gay-marriage-in-argentina-is-the-work-of-the-devil/)
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> Nice.

> [@Duckster](#):
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> On a more worldly note, a setback for women with this one.

Let’s be real: no one in the hiring pool was going to be anything less than super-reactionary on both of those issues.

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**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-smoke-we-have-a-pope/652838/83 "2013-03-13T19:47:24Z")

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So, they elect a 78 year old and less than a decade later, he has to quit for health reasons.

So, they elect a 76 year old.  
It’s not like any of them are too young to remember the USSR in the 80s so what’s with that?

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**Author:** ![zev\_steinhardt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/97f17d/32.png) [@zev\_steinhardt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zev_steinhardt)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-smoke-we-have-a-pope/652838/84 "2013-03-13T19:47:49Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Pope Francis I.

Is it Francis I or just Francis?

My understanding is that Popes who are the first to use a particular regnal name are NOT known as Pope … I (John Paul I being an exception).

Zev Steinhardt

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**Author:** ![Jman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jman/32/4416_2.png) [@Jman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jman)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-smoke-we-have-a-pope/652838/85 "2013-03-13T19:48:04Z")

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Sweet. Pope Frank. 😃

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-smoke-we-have-a-pope/652838/86 "2013-03-13T19:48:44Z")

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people that love him are frankophiles.

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**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-smoke-we-have-a-pope/652838/87 "2013-03-13T19:49:13Z")

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From **Wikipedia** (already a page for him. Wow):

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> Cardinal Bergoglio has invited his clergy and laity to oppose both abortion and euthanasia

Ummm…can we RSVP to that?

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**Author:** ![Mrs\_Ducky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrs_ducky/32/6227_2.png) [@Mrs\_Ducky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs_Ducky)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-smoke-we-have-a-pope/652838/88 "2013-03-13T19:50:00Z")

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Duck and I were watching NBC’s coverage and he noticed that the cat was intently watching the TV screen. He looked at her and said “Are you Catholic, Gracie?” I looked at him and said, “No she’s Cat O’Lick!”

Rimshot, please…

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**Author:** ![JillGat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JillGat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JillGat)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-smoke-we-have-a-pope/652838/89 "2013-03-13T19:51:17Z")

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“We”? Speak for yourself. I don’t acknowledge any pope.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-smoke-we-have-a-pope/652838/90 "2013-03-13T19:51:33Z")

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> [@Duckster](#):
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> He retired as archbishop because of his age. So he’s come out of retirement to accept the top spot.

Where are you getting that information? The wiki page on the [Archdiocese of Buenos Aires](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_Archdiocese_of_Buenos_Aires) has Bergoglia listed as the most recent archbishop, in place since 1998.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-smoke-we-have-a-pope/652838/91 "2013-03-13T19:53:06Z")

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> [@Gedd](#):
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> You’d think someone would have taken Pope Jesus by now.
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> Or would that seem a bit stuck up?

No, that would be a fine name for a Mexican pope. Maybe next time…

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-smoke-we-have-a-pope/652838/92 "2013-03-13T19:53:11Z")

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He already has a [wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorge_Bergoglio)page AS POPE.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-smoke-we-have-a-pope/652838/93 "2013-03-13T19:53:21Z")

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A 76 year old with only one lung taking the most stressful job in the world.

Is it too soon to start a new “Pick a new Pope” thread?

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**Author:** ![zev\_steinhardt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/97f17d/32.png) [@zev\_steinhardt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zev_steinhardt)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-smoke-we-have-a-pope/652838/94 "2013-03-13T19:54:38Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Where are you getting that information? The wiki page on the [Archdiocese of Buenos Aires](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_Archdiocese_of_Buenos_Aires) has Bergoglia listed as the most recent archbishop, in place since 1998.

Is it possible that he submitted his retirement papers at 75 (which, I believe, is when all bishops are required to submit them) but that the Pope allowed him to remain in office?

Zev Steinhardt

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-smoke-we-have-a-pope/652838/95 "2013-03-13T19:55:27Z")

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Don’t count out anyone on account of their age. John XXIII was 82 when he got the job and HE got Vatican II going!

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-smoke-we-have-a-pope/652838/96 "2013-03-13T19:58:55Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> He already has a [wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorge_Bergoglio)page AS POPE.

I like his red hoodie.

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**Author:** ![MoodIndigo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@MoodIndigo1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoodIndigo1)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-smoke-we-have-a-pope/652838/97 "2013-03-13T19:59:35Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> Don’t count out anyone on account of their age. John XXIII was 82 when he got the job and HE got Vatican II going!

True dat, everyone around was surprised that he was strong enough to face down the Curia as nobody else has done since.

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-smoke-we-have-a-pope/652838/98 "2013-03-13T20:03:26Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Where are you getting that information? The wiki page on the [Archdiocese of Buenos Aires](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_Archdiocese_of_Buenos_Aires) has Bergoglia listed as the most recent archbishop, in place since 1998.

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> Until last year, Bergoglio was the archbishop of Buenos Aires before stepping down because of his age. He is 76.

[http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/13/world/americas/latin-american-pope/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/13/world/americas/latin-american-pope/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-smoke-we-have-a-pope/652838/99 "2013-03-13T20:04:49Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Heh. Bergoglio’s Wikipedia page already redirects to “Pope Francis”.

I like the way they have a section in the article for his “Pre-papal career”. You know, as opposed to his Papal career that’s lasted the better part of an afternoon.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-smoke-we-have-a-pope/652838/100 "2013-03-13T20:05:45Z")

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Cool - thanks, Duckster.

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