# White supremacist finds out he has black ancestry **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 12, 2013, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-supremacist-finds-out-he-has-black-ancestry/673702 "2013-11-12T05:02:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Valgard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Valgard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valgard)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-supremacist-finds-out-he-has-black-ancestry/673702/1 "2013-11-12T05:02:02Z")
[http://blog.sfgate.com/hottopics/2013/11/11/white-supremacist-discovers-hes-part-black-on-talk-show/](http://blog.sfgate.com/hottopics/2013/11/11/white-supremacist-discovers-hes-part-black-on-talk-show/) BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-supremacist-finds-out-he-has-black-ancestry/673702/2 "2013-11-12T05:59:56Z")
Even if that were true it hardly has any bearing. His ancestry is not his choice. He’s a racist now, purely of his own choice. Notice also, the somewhat stupid behavior of the other speakers and the audience. I thought only racists ridicule people? ---
**Author:** ![Blackberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@Blackberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackberry)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-supremacist-finds-out-he-has-black-ancestry/673702/3 "2013-11-12T06:14:45Z")
> [@the\_diego](#): > > I thought only racists ridicule people? Why would only racists ridicule people? People who aren’t racist can still do everything else except be racist. ---
**Author:** ![WilyQuixote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f9ae1b/32.png) [@WilyQuixote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WilyQuixote)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-supremacist-finds-out-he-has-black-ancestry/673702/4 "2013-11-12T06:16:21Z")
Shame hey, that must have been horrible to find out. I feel sorry for the guy - no wait I don’t actually: > [@Valgard](#): > > BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-supremacist-finds-out-he-has-black-ancestry/673702/5 "2013-11-12T06:56:35Z")
> [@the\_diego](#): > > I thought only racists ridicule people? That’s a silly idea. Ridiculing somebody because of their race? That’s wrong. Ridiculing somebody because of their racism? That’s okay and it’s fun besides. Saying you have to treat black people and racists equally is as ridiculous as saying you have to treat children and pedophiles equally. ---
**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-supremacist-finds-out-he-has-black-ancestry/673702/6 "2013-11-12T07:47:04Z")
Please don’t compare racists with pedophiles. Racists choose to be hateful intolerant bigots Pedophiles were born that way and can’t control their thoughts ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-supremacist-finds-out-he-has-black-ancestry/673702/7 "2013-11-12T08:35:33Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > That’s a silly idea. Ridiculing somebody because of their race? That’s wrong. Ridiculing somebody because of their racism? That’s okay and it’s fun besides Gives a whole new meaning to “PALATR” : Point and Laugh at the Racist! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-supremacist-finds-out-he-has-black-ancestry/673702/8 "2013-11-12T10:32:17Z")
> [@the\_diego](#): > > Even if that were true it hardly has any bearing. His ancestry is not his choice. I think that’s kinda the point. The ancestry of the people against which he discriminates is not _their choice_ either. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-supremacist-finds-out-he-has-black-ancestry/673702/9 "2013-11-12T10:50:06Z")
Not really a point: if you go far enough back we all have black ancestry. Racism is stupid. ---
**Author:** ![ctnguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@ctnguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ctnguy)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-supremacist-finds-out-he-has-black-ancestry/673702/10 "2013-11-12T10:59:16Z")
Reminds me of the story of [the anti-Semitic politician in Hungary who discovered he was actually Jewish](http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/08/14/158773637/leader-of-anti-semitic-party-in-hungary-discovers-hes-jewish). ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-supremacist-finds-out-he-has-black-ancestry/673702/11 "2013-11-12T12:10:18Z")
> [@the\_diego](#): > > I thought only racists ridicule people? While not the silliest thing I’ve ever read on the internet (by far), this is the silliest thing I’ve read on the internet in the past 24 hours. ---
**Author:** ![gracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8e7dd6/32.png) [@gracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gracer)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-supremacist-finds-out-he-has-black-ancestry/673702/12 "2013-11-12T14:12:52Z")
> [@ctnguy](#): > > Reminds me of the story of [the anti-Semitic politician in Hungary who discovered he was actually Jewish](http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/08/14/158773637/leader-of-anti-semitic-party-in-hungary-discovers-hes-jewish). Wow. I would love to read about what exactly was going through his mind. These seem to be the basic steps: - I hate Jews. - I am Jewish, but if nobody knows I can comfortably go on hating Jews (?!) - OK, I am Jewish and everybody knows. - I am Jewish, it’s cool, I’ll go to Auschwitz to pay respect (?!) I want a documentary where he explains this! The (14%) black white supremacist seems to just ignore it, while the anti-semitic Jew turned around on the issue. An interesting comparison of two different ways of handling cognitive dissonance! ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-supremacist-finds-out-he-has-black-ancestry/673702/13 "2013-11-12T14:20:39Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > Not really a point: if you go far enough back we all have black ancestry. Racism is stupid. I would guess that most racists deny that particular fact, if they are even aware of it. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-supremacist-finds-out-he-has-black-ancestry/673702/14 "2013-11-12T14:47:06Z")
Does anyone know how accurate these genetic tests are at determining racial ancestry? ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-supremacist-finds-out-he-has-black-ancestry/673702/15 "2013-11-12T14:51:06Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > Not really a point: if you go far enough back we all have black ancestry. Racism is stupid. Not arguing about racism being stupid, but it’s not supported by your point. These guys are not saying anything about the color black. They’re saying something about the “races” as they have allegedly evolved over time and where they stand today. I mean, if you’re going to argue your point, why stop at blacks? For that price why not go back even further and say we all have non-human ancestry? It’s not like no racists can accept evolution. ---
**Author:** ![WilyQuixote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f9ae1b/32.png) [@WilyQuixote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WilyQuixote)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-supremacist-finds-out-he-has-black-ancestry/673702/16 "2013-11-12T14:58:08Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > Does anyone know how accurate these genetic tests are at determining racial ancestry? IIRC, reasonably accurate at ascertaining broad geographical origins. (such as Subsaharan Africa). Less so at breaking down into smaller groupings. I may be completely wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/848f3c/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_Dunlop)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-supremacist-finds-out-he-has-black-ancestry/673702/17 "2013-11-12T15:09:37Z")
> [@the\_diego](#): > > I thought only racists ridicule people? > [@PSXer](#): > > Please don’t compare racists with pedophiles. Racists choose to be hateful intolerant bigots > > Pedophiles were born that way and can’t control their thoughts > [@Wolf333](#): > > While not the silliest thing I’ve ever read on the internet (by far), this is the silliest thing I’ve read on the internet in the past 24 hours. It’s a whole thread full of unusually crazy ideas. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-supremacist-finds-out-he-has-black-ancestry/673702/18 "2013-11-12T15:33:50Z")
This whole thing is kind of disgusting. The premise is, “let’s get someone we all hate, and then point and laugh at him.” I am in no way standing up for this guy’s racism, but this was nothing more than an opportunity for a bunch of people to feel superior and let out some hate of their own. Not a pleasant sight. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-supremacist-finds-out-he-has-black-ancestry/673702/19 "2013-11-12T16:23:47Z")
nm - I have reading comprehension issues. Wouldn’t this be easy enough to research through a Mormon genealogy database or something? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-supremacist-finds-out-he-has-black-ancestry/673702/20 "2013-11-12T16:25:43Z")
Didn’t Chappelle do that sketch years ago? I can’t get with the program and laugh at the racist. If you read the article you will see that the revelation did not effect the guy in the least. He just believes the test is fake and he is still doing really scary things in North Dakota. Its not a laughing matter. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-supremacist-finds-out-he-has-black-ancestry/673702.md?page=2)