# White Supremacy is not a rhetorical tactic, ZPG\_Zealot

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**Created:** [September 12, 2020, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-supremacy-is-not-a-rhetorical-tactic-zpg-zealot/920396 "2020-09-12T06:05:19Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-supremacy-is-not-a-rhetorical-tactic-zpg-zealot/920396/91 "2020-09-13T13:44:26Z")

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> [@damuriajashi](#):
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> Yes, and the statistics phd reassessed after I pointed out that there were actually peer reviewed studies so we didn’t have to rely on the back of the envelope calculations by pro-publica. I don’t know if you knew this but just posted this anyway or you were so eager to take a stab at me that you didn’t look further.

And I did, Buck pointed that there were more studies and also said that while more studies are needed, your conclusion that it was bullshit was not granted.

[quote=“Buck\_Godot, post:288, topic:821332”]

> [@Are accusations of raicsm/sexism/bigotry abused?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-accusations-of-raicsm-sexism-bigotry-abused/821332/260):
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> And now that you understand the data a bit more, do you think it is possible the data was cherrypicked?

Its possible, but I see no reason that it is necessarily so and even if it was its not enough to fully explain their results.

Well, I guess I should say that after the two studies, the calculation didn’t need to be made. It was fine to throw numbers around and stab in the dark before we had any real facts.

Yes, there is a difference if you ignore all other variables. Hell you don’t need to cherry pick the data to see statistically significant differences. The confidence interval is even better when you look at ALL the data. Peer reviewed studies saw these differences and they say that the difference is basically illusory. When comparing like to like, there is no difference between blacks and whites.

> [@Are accusations of raicsm/sexism/bigotry abused?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-accusations-of-raicsm-sexism-bigotry-abused/821332/260):
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> Do you dismiss those studies in favor of the pro-publica bullshit as well? Or even put the Pro-Publica factoid on the same level as those peer reviewed studies?[/quote]

And that, really does say that while not very formal, other studies are coming with similar results. what this tell me once again is that more studies are needed, not to just come out and declare them bullshit.

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