# White teen fatally stabbed by black teen at track meet; racists come out of the woodwork **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 3, 2025, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-teen-fatally-stabbed-by-black-teen-at-track-meet-racists-come-out-of-the-woodwork/1016593 "2025-04-03T23:37:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-teen-fatally-stabbed-by-black-teen-at-track-meet-racists-come-out-of-the-woodwork/1016593/21 "2025-04-08T00:07:30Z")
It seems to me that the common thread is that sports make people violent. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-teen-fatally-stabbed-by-black-teen-at-track-meet-racists-come-out-of-the-woodwork/1016593/22 "2025-04-08T00:26:56Z")
As does testosterone I assume. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-teen-fatally-stabbed-by-black-teen-at-track-meet-racists-come-out-of-the-woodwork/1016593/23 "2025-04-08T14:16:34Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > There are now TWELVE Givesendgo accounts in Karmelo’s name, although most of them have no donations because it’s really obvious that they’re fraudulent. Apparently the dude’s various defense funds have raised 160k so far. Absolutely insane… I can’t imagine why _anyone_ would donate money to this guy. > [@Kimstu](#): > > But it also should go without saying that attendees at a sporting event should not be physically assaulting other attendees just because they’re sitting in the “wrong” part of the stands according to arbitrary turf-war boundaries between rival factions. If somebody is sitting somewhere they’re officially not allowed to be, you report them to security. Good point. I wonder if anyone stopped to check what the victim was wearing, too. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-teen-fatally-stabbed-by-black-teen-at-track-meet-racists-come-out-of-the-woodwork/1016593/24 "2025-04-09T02:55:36Z")
The main GSG is up to \>250K. I’d like to know who’s making all those donations. As for what the victim was wearing? Most likely, track shorts. Maybe he wouldn’t have been attacked if he’d been wearing something else, like street clothes (bad attempt at snark). Check out THIS GSG that is not pro-Karmelo. > **[Help bring justice to Karmelo Anthony](https://www.givesendgo.com/stopkarmelo)** > > Karmelo Anthony savagely murdered 17-year-old track star Austin Metcalf in cold blood at a Frisco, Texas high school event on April 2, 2025—a vicious act tha... ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-teen-fatally-stabbed-by-black-teen-at-track-meet-racists-come-out-of-the-woodwork/1016593/25 "2025-04-09T03:05:32Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > It goes without saying that there’s no excuse for fatally (or even non-fatally) stabbing somebody just because they physically assaulted you to try to get you to vacate your seat. In Texas? (Of course, a paper bag test is required to be certain if this was a totally acceptable stabbing or not.) ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-teen-fatally-stabbed-by-black-teen-at-track-meet-racists-come-out-of-the-woodwork/1016593/26 "2025-04-09T03:26:58Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > Check out THIS GSG that is not pro-Karmelo. That’s even weirder. I don’t know why you’d want to donate to this guy’s defense fund, but at least the concept of defense fund makes sense. Who ndonypu even donate to if you want to “bring someone to justice”? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-teen-fatally-stabbed-by-black-teen-at-track-meet-racists-come-out-of-the-woodwork/1016593/27 "2025-04-09T03:30:28Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Who ndonypu even donate to if you want to “bring someone to justice”? Someone that knows where to buy rope and how to tie a proper knot. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-teen-fatally-stabbed-by-black-teen-at-track-meet-racists-come-out-of-the-woodwork/1016593/28 "2025-04-09T18:30:52Z")
Apparently [there is a fair bit of malicious misinformation floating about online.](https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/austin-metcalf-karmelo-anthony-track-meet-frisco-20264971.php) > [@](#): > > Clashing narratives from family and police warning of misinformation around the teens involved in the deadly stabbing at a North Texas high school track meet on April 2 are fueling public reaction to the tragic incident. The Frisco Police Department confirmed they are investigating social media posts from a “fake account” pretending to be the police chief. > > Karmelo Anthony, 17, was charged with murder after he admitted to police that he stabbed 17-year-old Austin Metcalf in the chest after an altercation at the track meet. > > The arrest affidavit states that Anthony, unprompted, told police “I am not alleged, I did it,” when the arresting officer described him as the “alleged suspect” to another officer. Police said he was emotional when he told officers “he put his hands on me, I told him not to.” A second officer said in a statement that Anthony asked if his actions could be considered self defense. > > Anthony also allegedly asked the officer whether Metcalf is “going to be okay” when he was seated in the back of the police vehicle. […] > > Frisco PD Police Chief David Shilson issued a long statement on April 4, imploring people “to be cautious of the inaccurate information that is circulating related to this incident, and to only trust information that comes from official releases and verified sources.” […] > > The arrest affidavit says a witness told police that Anthony, an athlete for Centennial High School, was sitting in the tent for Memorial High School where Metcalf was a student. The witness said that “Austin had told Anthony that he needed to move out from under their team’s tent.” > > A second witness told police that “Austin and [Anthony] went back and forth and then Austin stood up and pushed [Anthony] to get him out of the tent.” > > The affidavit states that Anthony reached into his bag and told Metcalf to “touch me and see what happens.” The witness told police that “Austin proceeded to touch Anthony,” which prompted Anthony to warn Metcalf “to punch him and see what happens.” Police said that a short period of time passed before “Austin grabbed Anthony to tell him to move,” which is when the witness says he pulled out a knife and stabbed Metcalf in the chest. Stabbing somebody for punching and grabbing you is horrifically disproportionate and inexcusable. I’m glad to see that so many people are condemning this murderous escalation of the original (itself unjustified) assault. I hope they’re all agreed that it would likewise be inexcusable for a white guy to fatally injure a black guy for punching and grabbing him during a public altercation about who’s allowed to be sitting where in a sports arena. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-teen-fatally-stabbed-by-black-teen-at-track-meet-racists-come-out-of-the-woodwork/1016593/29 "2025-04-09T19:11:44Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Someone that knows where to buy rope and how to tie a proper knot. While buying rope is easy, tying knots is apparently hard: see the trump inspired gallows set up at the senate on Jan 6. A “hangmans noose” should tradionally have thirteen coils, and no central filler. But those guys managed to fuck up a very simple knot. I’m not saying we should all go out and lynch people, but I am saying if we threaten to lynch people, at least, make it a credible threat, not a complete joke. My child could tie a better knot. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-teen-fatally-stabbed-by-black-teen-at-track-meet-racists-come-out-of-the-woodwork/1016593/30 "2025-04-09T19:43:04Z")
“Doonesbury” had some January Sixers say, “We meant to say ‘Hang WITH Mike Pence.’” I’m thinking that the stabber was a budding serial killer, or mass shooter, who got caught the first time by doing it in a very public place. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-teen-fatally-stabbed-by-black-teen-at-track-meet-racists-come-out-of-the-woodwork/1016593/31 "2025-04-09T19:56:31Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > I’m thinking that the stabber was a budding serial killer, I’m been threatened with stabbing on two occasions (OK, I do live in #12 on Wikipedia’s list of murder rates/city) but both times escaped unscathed. First guy got away, second got arrested, but I dropped charges. (He was desperate, and stupid. But not a murderer, in my biased opinion, just a man who had run out of choices. I did not feel it was worth my while to make him suffer even more) I do know how to box, done some bare-knuckle boxing (also gloves) which brings reality to the idea of fighting real soon: it’s shit, sore and over very fast. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-teen-fatally-stabbed-by-black-teen-at-track-meet-racists-come-out-of-the-woodwork/1016593/32 "2025-04-09T23:53:15Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > I’m thinking that the stabber was a budding serial killer, or mass shooter, who got caught the first time by doing it in a very public place. …? Sorry, why are you thinking that? As far as I can tell from the information quoted from the arrest affidavit, this particular violent crime seems to have grown out of an altercation between two hot-tempered adolescents, in which one of them repeatedly physically assaulted the other because he didn’t like where he was sitting. And the assaulted teen then responded with horrifically disproportionate and excessive armed violence. That’s not the type of behavior that says to me “serial killer” or “mass shooter”, where a perpetrator cold-bloodedly plans a deliberate slaughter of a bunch of oblivious people just going about their own business. That says to me some West Side Story-style modern dueling bullshit, where a couple of pissed-off teens are physically fighting for no valid reason what-so-fucking-ever until one of them suddenly makes it murder. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2025, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-teen-fatally-stabbed-by-black-teen-at-track-meet-racists-come-out-of-the-woodwork/1016593/33 "2025-04-10T12:46:57Z")
What I (we?) don’t know is how much the rest of the crowd of the one school was either egging on, or getting ready to physically join in, the fight. If I’m getting hassled by some dude, and it looks like he’s got a few friends, and it looks like I’m trapped / surrounded, for damned sure I’m gonna escalate the force level. Because that’s the only way I’m getting out un-crippled or un-dead. ISTM the kid with the knife is both the winner of, and the innocent victim of, the larger scenario. There is nothing “horrifically disproportionate” about using potentially lethal force to defend yourself from what’s turning into a group attack. “Bare minimum” is more like it. Was everybody a stupid hot-headed teen? Sure they were. But hot-headed teens can kill you just as dead as can middle-aged career criminals or basic barroom bullies. This is a damned shame overall. Better it never happened. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2025, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-teen-fatally-stabbed-by-black-teen-at-track-meet-racists-come-out-of-the-woodwork/1016593/34 "2025-04-10T14:03:27Z")
I agree. No serial killer vibes from this incident to me at all. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2025, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-teen-fatally-stabbed-by-black-teen-at-track-meet-racists-come-out-of-the-woodwork/1016593/35 "2025-04-10T14:20:30Z")
This is Texas? Seems like a simple stand-your-ground defense to me. Oh, wait, sorry, the stabber was black. Death penalty it is! ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2025, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-teen-fatally-stabbed-by-black-teen-at-track-meet-racists-come-out-of-the-woodwork/1016593/36 "2025-04-10T14:36:46Z")
Sadly, you’ve accurately summed up the entire case in not even 2 lines. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2025, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-teen-fatally-stabbed-by-black-teen-at-track-meet-racists-come-out-of-the-woodwork/1016593/37 "2025-04-10T14:38:39Z")
But we still haven’t been told what drug the stabber was hopped up on or if he’s Muslim or BLM. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2025, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-teen-fatally-stabbed-by-black-teen-at-track-meet-racists-come-out-of-the-woodwork/1016593/38 "2025-04-10T14:47:05Z")
Rest assured RW media has supplied those answers to its audience. And as always with RW media, any connection between what they’re spewing and the actual truth is mere coincidence. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2025, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-teen-fatally-stabbed-by-black-teen-at-track-meet-racists-come-out-of-the-woodwork/1016593/39 "2025-04-11T07:59:59Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > If I’m getting hassled by some dude, and it looks like he’s got a few friends, and it looks like I’m trapped / surrounded, for damned sure I’m gonna escalate the force level. Because that’s the only way I’m getting out un-crippled or un-dead. I don’t know how you feel trapped when people are trying to make you leave. That seems like the polar opposite of being trapped. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2025, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-teen-fatally-stabbed-by-black-teen-at-track-meet-racists-come-out-of-the-woodwork/1016593/40 "2025-04-11T12:22:43Z")
I can quite easily imagine a feeling of entrapment in such a situation if I’m feeling threatened by the person asking me to leave and my “fight or flight” instinct kicks in. Really, use your imagination. I don’t think it’s that difficult to find a scenario that works. But we don’t know the full details, so I can’t say whether that is or is not what happened. We don’t know. I’d be curious to hear the full account when it comes up in court. Now, I’m not saying it makes it justifiable, but it may make it understandble to me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-teen-fatally-stabbed-by-black-teen-at-track-meet-racists-come-out-of-the-woodwork/1016593.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-teen-fatally-stabbed-by-black-teen-at-track-meet-racists-come-out-of-the-woodwork/1016593.md?page=3)