# Whitehouse releases Obama long form birth-certificate

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whitehouse-releases-obama-long-form-birth-certificate/579889>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [April 27, 2011, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whitehouse-releases-obama-long-form-birth-certificate/579889 "2011-04-27T13:47:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![BigDadWolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@BigDadWolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigDadWolf)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whitehouse-releases-obama-long-form-birth-certificate/579889/1 "2011-04-27T13:47:50Z")

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[http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog\_theticket/20110427/ts\_yblog\_theticket/white-house-releases-obama-birth-certificate](http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theticket/20110427/ts_yblog_theticket/white-house-releases-obama-birth-certificate)

There does not seem to be any surprising or incriminating information on the long form birth certificate. Why was this done now and why did he wait so long? I personally thought it was good thing to have the birthers wasting so much time on what was essentially a non-issue.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whitehouse-releases-obama-long-form-birth-certificate/579889/2 "2011-04-27T13:54:53Z")

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“Why does he bother?” is a good question. Anyone paying attention knows this was put to bed long ago. Why draw attention to it?

Those who still think BHO was born in Kenya aren’t listening anyway.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whitehouse-releases-obama-long-form-birth-certificate/579889/3 "2011-04-27T13:56:04Z")

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I wonder which forger they used. We should start checking who’s been pardoned recently.

😃

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**Author:** ![Yodalicious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yodalicious/32/8195_2.png) [@Yodalicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yodalicious)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whitehouse-releases-obama-long-form-birth-certificate/579889/4 "2011-04-27T13:56:37Z")

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Trump is taking credit for the reveal. From the article on [cnn.com](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/27/white-house-releases-obama-birth-certificate/?hpt=T1&iref=BN1), “Speaking to reporters Wednesday, Trump said, “I have accomplished something nobody else has accomplished.””

I don’t think this will shut the birthers up.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whitehouse-releases-obama-long-form-birth-certificate/579889/5 "2011-04-27T13:58:56Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> I wonder which forger they used. We should start checking who’s been pardoned recently.

Hmmm.. Anyone seen [this guy](http://thefilmwotiwatched.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/great-escape-3.jpg?w=400&h=368) lately?

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**Author:** ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whitehouse-releases-obama-long-form-birth-certificate/579889/6 "2011-04-27T14:00:45Z")

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> [@BigBadWolf](#):
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> [Yahoo News: Latest and Breaking News, Headlines, Live Updates, and More](http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theticket/20110427/ts_yblog_theticket/white-house-releases-obama-birth-certificate)
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> There does not seem to be any surprising or incriminating information on the long form birth certificate. Why was this done now and why did he wait so long? I personally thought it was good thing to have the birthers wasting so much time on what was essentially a non-issue.

I think he waited as long as he in order to give the crackpot faction  
plenty of time to expose itself at the top of its voice, leaving no doubt  
that it is, in fact, crackpot.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whitehouse-releases-obama-long-form-birth-certificate/579889/7 "2011-04-27T14:00:47Z")

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And to this:

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> Trump on Wednesday took full credit for the release.
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> “I feel I’ve accomplished something really really important and I’m honored by it,” Trump said at a press conference held during his pre-scheduled visit today to New Hampshire. Trump noted that people have long been requesting the document, but Trump was the only one who got the president to release it. Trump suggested Wednesday this development will boost his own potential presidential candidacy.
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> Trump said he and others are still going to have to assess the document’s authenticity. We’re “going to look at it. We have to see if it’s real, if it’s proper,” Trump said. But he added that he’s “sure it’s the right deal” and is looking forward to moving on to more important issues such as OPEC and China.

I just have to say: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whitehouse-releases-obama-long-form-birth-certificate/579889/8 "2011-04-27T14:00:50Z")

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If he was really Machivellian, he would’ve waited till the WH was about to have a bad news cycle and then release it, as I imagine silliness regarding his Birth Certificate will now dominate the news for the next 24 hours.

Doesn’t seem to be anything particularly damaging in the news though, so I guess thats an opportunity wasted.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whitehouse-releases-obama-long-form-birth-certificate/579889/9 "2011-04-27T14:06:11Z")

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OK, I have a question, why is it framed in paper that matches the form and what is to the left of the border that is left out? It looks like boxes with additional writing.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whitehouse-releases-obama-long-form-birth-certificate/579889/10 "2011-04-27T14:11:21Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> OK, I have a question, why is it framed in paper that matches the form and what is to the left of the border that is left out? It looks like boxes with additional writing.

The actual birthcertificate is in a bound book in some Hawaiian gov’t office, what we’re looking at is a photocopy signed by the State Registrar since Obama still can’t legally remove the original. The boxes on the left hand side are the persons Birth Certificate one page over from Obama’s. The framing is just the paper it was photocopied on.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whitehouse-releases-obama-long-form-birth-certificate/579889/11 "2011-04-27T14:12:19Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> OK, I have a question, why is it framed in paper that matches the form and what is to the left of the border that is left out? It looks like boxes with additional writing.

Aha! I think you’re on to something. You should investigate it further.

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**Author:** ![CyclopticXander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@CyclopticXander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CyclopticXander)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whitehouse-releases-obama-long-form-birth-certificate/579889/12 "2011-04-27T14:13:36Z")

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God I can’t wait to see all the cable shows tonight. Chris Matthews in particular I think may just blow up in excitement. Seriously these are the moments people, if you are at all entertained by politics then stop and cherish this.

It will be interesting to see how many birthers double down and add more conspiracy theories and how many just give up.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whitehouse-releases-obama-long-form-birth-certificate/579889/13 "2011-04-27T14:15:07Z")

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> [@CyclopticXander](#):
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> It will be interesting to see how many birthers double down and add more conspiracy theories and how many just give up.

See post #9.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whitehouse-releases-obama-long-form-birth-certificate/579889/14 "2011-04-27T14:17:06Z")

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Conspiracy theorists never give up.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whitehouse-releases-obama-long-form-birth-certificate/579889/15 "2011-04-27T14:17:40Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> OK, I have a question, why is it framed in paper that matches the form and what is to the left of the border that is left out? It looks like boxes with additional writing.

It’s the color of his toenail polish. I think it says “Deep Pink”.\*  
\*Daily Show joke

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**Author:** ![Scot\_Dutch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Scot\_Dutch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scot_Dutch)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whitehouse-releases-obama-long-form-birth-certificate/579889/16 "2011-04-27T14:23:58Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Conspiracy theorists never give up.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

This^. Personally I think this will only throw more gasoline on the birther fire.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whitehouse-releases-obama-long-form-birth-certificate/579889/17 "2011-04-27T14:24:12Z")

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What a dumb move, he just gave an out to people like Trump to move on from an issue that would completely sink them in a general election while at the same time allowing him to claim victory.

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whitehouse-releases-obama-long-form-birth-certificate/579889/18 "2011-04-27T14:24:12Z")

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This will accomplish absolutely zilch.

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whitehouse-releases-obama-long-form-birth-certificate/579889/19 "2011-04-27T14:33:58Z")

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Yeah, I’m pretty disappointed. This won’t have any affect on the birthers, and it sets a bad precedent. If anything, I think he should have waited until after the election.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whitehouse-releases-obama-long-form-birth-certificate/579889/20 "2011-04-27T14:39:05Z")

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I can’t help thinking he should’ve released the birth certificate the day of the Iowa caucuses or even a few weeks into the GOP primary cycle just to throw the whole thing into chaos. It would’ve been hilarious anyway. This makes several GOP candidates and pretend-candidates (Trump) look stupid, but they were doing that on their own. Stupid as all this is, it might’ve been good for Obama if he’d showed up at a debate and said “I’m proposing solutions for our economic problems and ending our dependency on oil and my opponent is arguing about the fine print on my birth certificate. Who are you going to vote for?” Now they’ll start talking about his college grades instead. The stupidity doesn’t go away.

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