# Who are Native Americans?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-native-americans/549918>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [August 11, 2010, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-native-americans/549918 "2010-08-11T06:40:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-native-americans/549918/101 "2010-08-19T09:20:30Z")

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I prefer to be called “wagon burner” myself, but that’s just me.

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**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-native-americans/549918/102 "2010-08-19T10:24:37Z")

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> [@qpw3141](#):
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> > [@BrightNShiny](#):
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> > Dictionary: A book where you can look up the meaning of words. See [here](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/dictionary) for definitions.
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> Good to know you now realise not only that they are available but how to use one to actually prove your point. 😉
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> As I said, I was wrong about this but, had I been on the other side of the argument, the **very first** thing I would have done was to check the dictionary and quote the definition that indicated the mistake.
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> Just imagine all the time that would have been saved all round if only someone had taken that obvious course.
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> Still, you got there in the end. Well done. 🙂

From now on, anytime you quote me, my response will be this: blah, blah, blah.

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**Author:** ![qpw3141](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/6bbea6/32.png) [@qpw3141](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/qpw3141)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-native-americans/549918/103 "2010-08-19T10:31:29Z")

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> [@BrightNShiny](#):
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> > [@qpw3141](#):
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> > Good to know you now realise not only that they are available but how to use one to actually prove your point. 😉
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> > As I said, I was wrong about this but, had I been on the other side of the argument, the **very first** thing I would have done was to check the dictionary and quote the definition that indicated the mistake.
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> > Just imagine all the time that would have been saved all round if only someone had taken that obvious course.
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> > Still, you got there in the end. Well done. 🙂
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> From now on, anytime you quote me, my response will be this: blah, blah, blah.

Perhaps you’d care to look up the words ‘juvenile’ and ‘petulant’ in the dictionary? 😃

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**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-native-americans/549918/104 "2010-08-19T10:45:06Z")

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> [@qpw3141](#):
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> > [@BrightNShiny](#):
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> > From now on, anytime you quote me, my response will be this: blah, blah, blah.
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> Perhaps you’d care to look up the words ‘juvenile’ and ‘petulant’ in the dictionary? 😃

Blah, blah, blah.

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**Author:** ![A\_Dodgy\_Dude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a87d85/32.png) [@A\_Dodgy\_Dude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_Dodgy_Dude)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-native-americans/549918/105 "2010-08-20T04:49:42Z")

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Anybody born on American soil is a “native American.”

The people who were here before the pilgrims arrived are “American Indians.”

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-native-americans/549918/106 "2010-08-20T04:57:03Z")

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> [@BrightNShiny](#):
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> From now on, anytime you quote me, my response will be this: blah, blah, blah.

> [@qpw3141](#):
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> Perhaps you’d care to look up the words ‘juvenile’ and ‘petulant’ in the dictionary? 😃

> [@BrightNShiny](#):
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> Blah, blah, blah.

You are both through with this exchange and you will not resume it in any other Great Debates thread.

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**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-native-americans/549918/107 "2010-08-20T11:11:38Z")

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Don’t forget that people make assumptions about words sometimes regardless of their context.

Sometime ago on these boards I posted about us Brits; describing ourselves quite accurately as the “natives of these isles”, do such and such.

Another Doper who is a Brit from an ethnic minority got quite huffy about my post believing me to be making a dig about non white people.

But back to the O.P., its common understanding that anyone who talks about “Native Americans” is talking by common accepted usage about Amerindians; not people who happened to be born in the U.S.

Quite often when people talk about “Masons” they are referring to men who are members of a fraternal organisation not people who work stone for a living.  
And I’ve yet to meet someone who DOES work stone for a living getting upset about the lodge members being described as such.  
(And yes I actually do know some stone masons)

Personally I can’t see why the debate has got so heated.

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