Prince George, Duke of Kent, (Queen Elizabeth II’s uncle) was reportedly bisexual.
John Mace, in regards to Eleanor Roosevelt, if you read her letters to Hickok…hooboy. Those things are STEAMY.
Prince George, Duke of Kent, (Queen Elizabeth II’s uncle) was reportedly bisexual.
John Mace, in regards to Eleanor Roosevelt, if you read her letters to Hickok…hooboy. Those things are STEAMY.
HA!
He wasn’t officially married to Mary Austin . Mary Astor was an actress who starred in “The Maltese Falcon,” among other things.
W.H. Auden.
This is rumor only, of course, as “I wasn’t under the bed,” but the marriages of Alfred Lunt and Lynne Fontanne, and 1920s/30s film stars Edmund Lowe and Lilyan Tashman were supposedly “friendly arrangements.” Alla Nazimova was openly bi, and married twice. Bert Savoy, The Gayest Man in the World, was married.
Rudolph Valentino (married twice) is generally presumed to have been gay or bi, but a bio came out a year or so ago which convincingly argues that he was probably straight.
Peter Ilyich Tchaikovsky.
Evidently, his wife (straight) had an enthusiastic liking for sex, so the marriage was doomed from the start and only lasted three months.
Eric Blore (great character actor of the 30s and 40s).
Well, to be fair, he wasn’t officially married to Mary Astor either.
No. And yes, rumor has it (and I personally know someone who claims first hand experience) that he’s gay.
Alexander the Great’s tendencies are no more rumor than any other biographical information about him are: the fact he kissed his eunuch Bagoas in front of his troops, his double entendres about Hepheastion, etc…
Eleanor Roosevelt: there are no incriminating pictures (thank God), but at least one of her children stated in an interview that she and Lorena Hickock (who was definitely gay) were lovers, then their letters leave you with no doubts whatever. (One of the few times that Eleanor ever completely refused FDR on a matter was when he told her he wanted Lorena to move out of the White House; essentially he had his live-in girlfriend and Eleanor had hers.)
Well that’s disappointing- he was so purty.
(Have you seen his house recently)?
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Alexander the Great’s tendencies are no more rumor than any other biographical information about him are: the fact he kissed his eunuch Bagoas in front of his troops, his double entendres about Hepheastion, etc…
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I realize that this isn’t exactly the place to debate the subtleties of ancient sexuality, but I would contend that Alexander’s bisexuality is only vacuously true. There is a great deal of evidence that the ancients used different categories of sexuality. While Alexander certainly enjoyed men, I seriously doubt he would have identified as bisexual or homosexual, hence I would be hesitant to use the label.
Julius Caesar
Tyrone Power
Alfred Lord Douglas
Leonard Bernstein
Robert Reed
Agnes Moorehead
Rainer Werner Fassbinder
Vladimir Horowitz
W.H. Auden and Erika Mann (married to each other)
Arthur C. Clarke
Aaron Copeland
A lot of the folks mentioned here, as far as I can tell, were homosexuals who happened to be married to somone of opposite gender. By that I mean, in a more tolerant and open society, they never would have bothered with such relationships.
One famous fellow who I think was a bona fide bisexual was Alfred Kinsey.
I remember hearing that Kurt Cobain was an acknowledged bisexual, and he was, of course, married to Courtney Love.
I think that puts him in a whole sexual catagory of its own.
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The same would hold true for a number of other historical figures as well ( William II Rufus would be another probable “bisexual” and is so labeled by at least one of his principal biographers, Barlow, though he never married - such was apparently not uncommon among the Anglo-Norman juvenes of the age, who in all respects were extremely promiscuous ). Labels like bisexual are quite modern in conception.
Still, I don’t think it is out of line to extend the label that far backward as long as you are aware that the term shouldn’t be presumed to imply the same cultural backage in different eras. As a simple identifier of people who indulged in sex with both genders for whatever reason, it has utility enough.
In that the circumstantial evidence for Alexander is pretty decent.
Vacuously?
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I would agree for the most part and raise you an Edward II as well. However, I would hesitantly take the position that medieval sexual categories are far closer to modern ones than their ancient counterparts. But then again, I might feel this way because Barlow (whom I greatly admire) is not as sensitive to these kinds of things as authors I read on ancient history.
I believe that any time modern sexual terms are used to categorize people remote from us in time and place, we do carry our cultural baggage with us. Even using the term bisexual carries with it an assumption of polarity. I am not sure how one can divorce the word bisexual from its context of lying midway between heterosexuality and homosexuality, concepts which are not helpful to understanding ancient sexuality.
mhendo, I misspoke. Vacuous truth is truth that conveys no information. Calling Alexander bisexual is strictly true insofar as the evidence indicates that he enjoyed a bit of man every now and again, but it connotes far more than it should to moderns.
Common rumor here in Cowtown (Kansas City, Mo) is that George Brett is
gay.
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I believe that any time modern sexual terms are used to categorize people remote from us in time and place, we do carry our cultural baggage with us. Even using the term bisexual carries with it an assumption of polarity. I am not sure how one can divorce the word bisexual from its context of lying midway between heterosexuality and homosexuality, concepts which are not helpful to understanding ancient sexuality.[/QUOTE]
Well, that’s a reasonable argument. Not sure I entirely agree, but reasonable :).
In this context I suppose it comes down to what this list is supposed to be implying - i.e. whether very modern assumptions about the nature of sexuality and marriage are being factored in as givens. For example it would certainly be hard to argue that an ancient figure like Alexander was a anything like a modern closet case, denying some preference for the sake of cultural expectations.
He was engaged to Steve Austin.
What he was engaged in was the inspiration for We Are The Champions.