# Who are some liberal country singers?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 6, 2009, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-some-liberal-country-singers/509059 "2009-09-06T14:45:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-some-liberal-country-singers/509059/21 "2009-09-06T21:03:05Z")

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> [@runcible\_spoon](#):
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> John Prine is a country singer? I’d call that folk, myself, although it’s a fuzzy line, to be sure.

No, he’s not strictly a country singer, and it is indeed a stretch to classify him as one; there are similar elements of style, musically, though.

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2009, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-some-liberal-country-singers/509059/22 "2009-09-06T21:41:19Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> As opposed to Obama who…oh, wait. :rolleyes:

Irrelevant, off topic, and incorrect.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-some-liberal-country-singers/509059/23 "2009-09-06T22:53:20Z")

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> [@drastic\_quench](#):
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> Irrelevant, off topic, and incorrect.

Nope. Relevant, on topic and correct.

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2009, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-some-liberal-country-singers/509059/24 "2009-09-06T23:18:57Z")

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_fingers in ears_

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2009, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-some-liberal-country-singers/509059/25 "2009-09-06T23:32:38Z")

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> [@drastic\_quench](#):
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> _fingers in ears_

How are you typing with your fingers in your ears?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2009, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-some-liberal-country-singers/509059/26 "2009-09-06T23:43:49Z")

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[Loudon Wainwright](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudon_Wainwright_III). Might be a stretch for the same sort of reason that John Prine is, but still, worth a shot.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-some-liberal-country-singers/509059/27 "2009-09-07T00:03:33Z")

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Wasn’t Toby Keith’s problem with the Dixie Chicks rooted not in the fact that they stated a political opinion contrary to his, but rather the fact that they elected to state it on foreign soil to a foreign audience?

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-some-liberal-country-singers/509059/28 "2009-09-07T01:17:05Z")

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> [@Darth\_Sensitive](#):
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> I believe that Toby Kieth is a registered Democrat, though one from the Texas/Oklahoma strain of the party.

Yes, but hardly liberal. He recently got his ass chewed off by Kris Kristofferson for telling Kris not to perform “that lefty shit”.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-some-liberal-country-singers/509059/29 "2009-09-07T01:24:40Z")

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> [@Ogre](#):
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> Yes, but hardly liberal. He recently got his ass chewed off by Kris Kristofferson for telling Kris not to perform “that lefty shit”.

I am so sure that Kris’ “ass chewing” scared the shit out of Toby Keith.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-some-liberal-country-singers/509059/30 "2009-09-07T01:32:04Z")

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If Keith had any fucking shame, it would, since Kristofferson is 1) a better musician than Toby Keith will ever be, and 2) a veteran.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-some-liberal-country-singers/509059/31 "2009-09-07T01:35:02Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> I am so sure that Kris’ “ass chewing” scared the shit out of Toby Keith.

Sometimes you have to listen to your “dad” even after you can beat him up, though a pretty soft former semi-pro football player vs an older guy who was a rugger and a Ranger would be an interesting fight.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-some-liberal-country-singers/509059/32 "2009-09-07T01:36:35Z")

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> [@Ogre](#):
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> If Keith had any fucking shame, it would, since Kristofferson is 1) a better musician than Toby Keith will ever be, and 2) a veteran.

1. is an opinion…I personally never liked either of them. 2) is irrelevant to the question.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-some-liberal-country-singers/509059/33 "2009-09-07T01:37:37Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Sometimes you have to listen to your “dad” even after you can beat him up, though a pretty soft former semi-pro football player vs an older guy who was a rugger and a Ranger would be an interesting fight.

Somehow I don’t think Toby Keith thinks of Kris Kristofferson as his father or even a father figure.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-some-liberal-country-singers/509059/34 "2009-09-07T01:42:24Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> 1. is an opinion…I personally never liked either of them. 2) is irrelevant to the question.

Kristofferson’s amount of life experience, especially including his time as a Ranger and Army pilot, and as a legendary performer and songwriter, bears directly on his qualifications to tell a half-assed Hat Act like Toby Keith to shut the fuck up.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-some-liberal-country-singers/509059/35 "2009-09-07T01:46:33Z")

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Was the “ass-chewin’” delivered off-key?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-some-liberal-country-singers/509059/36 "2009-09-07T01:47:52Z")

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Well, DUH! But perfectly phrased.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-some-liberal-country-singers/509059/37 "2009-09-07T01:49:05Z")

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> [@Ogre](#):
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> Kristofferson’s amount of life experience, especially including his time as a Ranger and Army pilot, and as a legendary performer and songwriter, bears directly on his qualifications to tell a half-assed Hat Act like Toby Keith to shut the fuck up.

No, actually they don’t. An 80 year old bum who never worked a day in his life and beat his kids has 80 years of life experience, but it doesn’t qualify him to give much in the way of advice about life.  
His experience in the Army is admirable and I appreciate his service, but serving in the military doesn’t make you more correct about politics. If it did, Hitler wouldn’t have been a dictator and Lee Harvey Oswald wouldn’t have been a Communist and a presidential assassin.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-some-liberal-country-singers/509059/38 "2009-09-07T01:53:11Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> No, actually they don’t. An 80 year old bum who never worked a day in his life and beat his kids has 80 years of life experience, but it doesn’t qualify him to give much in the way of advice about life.  
> His experience in the Army is admirable and I appreciate his service, but serving in the military doesn’t make you more correct about politics. If it did, Hitler wouldn’t have been a dictator and Lee Harvey Oswald wouldn’t have been a Communist and a presidential assassin.

Pedantry. Kris Kristofferson has always had valuable, insightful things to say about politics. He was also a Rhodes Scholar, by the way, and earned a scholarship to Oxford University. For political discussion, I’ll take those qualifications over Toby Keith’s years of semi-pro football and oil-derrick experience any day.

Why wouldn’t I?

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-some-liberal-country-singers/509059/39 "2009-09-07T01:54:48Z")

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Toby Keith’s restaurant is better, though.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-some-liberal-country-singers/509059/40 "2009-09-07T02:11:17Z")

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So…

Total derail, eh?

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