# Who are the best sleasball actors?

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**Created:** [December 15, 2002, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-best-sleasball-actors/142838 "2002-12-15T03:11:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![David\_Simmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@David\_Simmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_Simmons)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-best-sleasball-actors/142838/1 "2002-12-15T03:11:36Z")

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I don’t go to movies much any more. I’m not all that interested in watching thing blow up.

The two best actors to play fourflushing grifters that I saw were Sheldon Leonard and the late Jack Carson.

Any new nominees?

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-best-sleasball-actors/142838/2 "2002-12-15T03:23:17Z")

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Joe Pesci.

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**Author:** ![Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soul_brother_number_two/32/3515_2.png) [@Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soul_Brother_Number_Two)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-best-sleasball-actors/142838/3 "2002-12-15T03:26:54Z")

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Richard Widmark, bar none.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-best-sleasball-actors/142838/4 "2002-12-15T03:32:02Z")

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Can’t get much sleazier than Mickey Rourke.

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**Author:** ![Global\_Citizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/46a35a/32.png) [@Global\_Citizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Global_Citizen)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-best-sleasball-actors/142838/5 "2002-12-15T03:47:30Z")

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I nominate [Peter Lorre](http://us.imdb.com/Name?Lorre,+Peter).

He was always so good playing creepy characters.

Global Citizen

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-best-sleasball-actors/142838/6 "2002-12-15T04:11:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by David Simmons \*  
> **I don’t go to movies much any more. I’m not all that interested in watching thing blow up.**

What about all the really good movies where things _don’t_ blow up? They far outnumber the movies where things do blow up.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-best-sleasball-actors/142838/7 "2002-12-15T04:14:24Z")

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Steve Buscemi, of course.

_Almost_ as wierd-at-a-glance as Peter Lorre.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-best-sleasball-actors/142838/8 "2002-12-15T04:15:13Z")

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Robert Mitchum

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-best-sleasball-actors/142838/9 "2002-12-15T04:39:43Z")

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I was thinking the other day how Joe Pantoliano is making a pretty good career for himself playing slightly to very sleazy characters: Risky Business, Midnight Run, Matrix, and more.

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**Author:** ![syncrolecyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f08c70/32.png) [@syncrolecyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/syncrolecyne)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-best-sleasball-actors/142838/10 "2002-12-15T04:55:08Z")

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While not as well known as the others, Jere Burns seems to play nothing but sleazeballs.

[http://us.imdb.com/Name?Burns,%20Jere](http://us.imdb.com/Name?Burns,%20Jere)

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**Author:** ![David\_Simmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@David\_Simmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_Simmons)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-best-sleasball-actors/142838/11 "2002-12-15T05:08:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Reeder \*  
> \*\*Joe Pesci. \*\*

Pesci was tremendous in _Goodfellas_, but I didn’t think of him as a phoney fourflusher.

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-best-sleasball-actors/142838/12 "2002-12-15T16:50:04Z")

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James Woods.

David Patrick Kelly.

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-best-sleasball-actors/142838/13 "2002-12-15T16:53:19Z")

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Bruce Dern…the worst

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-best-sleasball-actors/142838/14 "2002-12-15T16:54:46Z")

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I forgot to mention Eric Roberts

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-best-sleasball-actors/142838/15 "2002-12-15T17:11:00Z")

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Saverio Guerra

He plays Bob on Becker and played the sleazy bartender at the demon bar in Buffy the Vampire Slayer(the show).

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-best-sleasball-actors/142838/16 "2002-12-15T17:18:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Mahaloth \*  
> \*\*Saverio Guerra
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> He plays Bob on Becker and played the sleazy bartender at the demon bar in Buffy the Vampire Slayer(the show). \*\*

Oh yes, Bob on _Becker_ is what I had in mind. He’s a little too likeable and not quite as oleaginous as some of the characters played by my choices, but he’s pretty close.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Maximino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@Mighty\_Maximino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Maximino)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-best-sleasball-actors/142838/17 "2002-12-15T17:48:59Z")

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You didn’t mention that he had to still be alive – and I find it hard to believe that anyone could ever be sleazier than M. Emmet Walsh. (If you don’t believe me, go rent **Blood Simple**.)

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-best-sleasball-actors/142838/18 "2002-12-15T22:05:10Z")

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Second Steve Buscemi. See him in Ghost World and Reservoir Dogs.

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**Author:** ![David\_Simmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@David\_Simmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_Simmons)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-best-sleasball-actors/142838/19 "2002-12-15T22:37:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Mighty Maximino \*  
> **You didn’t mention that he had to still be alive –**

One of my choices was _the late_ Jack Carson. Probably a lot of you never heard of[Jack Carson](http://www.what-a-character.com/cgi-bin/display.cgi?id=982796997) so here is a site. And this one has[a picture.](http://us.imdb.com/EGallery?source=mptv&group=1206&photo=2172_2066.jpg&path=pgallery&path_key=Carson,+Jack)

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-best-sleasball-actors/142838/20 "2002-12-15T22:51:31Z")

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I have a few old-time radio performances by Jack Carson-- (with almost 1000 hours of archived material, not much of a surprise.)

I think my favourite is an episode of _Suspense_ called _The One Millionth Joe_, where he plays a murderer who has the mixed fortune of being selected as the millionth customer to walk through the doors of a big ol’ department store. So he gets a free “getaway” (and plenty of other goodies), but of course the store wants lots of publicity. Not so good.

He plays a good schemer, for sure.

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