# Who are the biggest islamophobes? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 3, 2012, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-biggest-islamophobes/633548 "2012-09-03T15:35:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-biggest-islamophobes/633548/21 "2012-09-04T04:28:55Z")
> [@stevenova](#): > > **Who are the biggest islamophobes?** Bob and Fred Smith of Omaha, Nebraska. Huge guys. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-biggest-islamophobes/633548/22 "2012-09-04T09:02:31Z")
So does the Rwandan genocide let american racists off the hook or what? ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-biggest-islamophobes/633548/23 "2012-09-04T10:27:12Z")
I’m thinking that if your [fear of Muslims is more important than the first amendment](http://www.npr.org/2012/09/03/159378918/fears-about-shariah-law-take-hold-in-tennessee?utm_source=NPR&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=20120903), then you win some sort of prize. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-biggest-islamophobes/633548/24 "2012-09-04T13:43:23Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > Al Qaeda is a sunni group that is anti-shi-ite. I think Al Qaeda in Iraq devoted more time to attacking Shiites than attacking US personnel by the time the war was winding down. > > In the book growing up Bin Laden, Bin Laden seemed to have a 5 step plan to take over the world (that is what I remember of it) > > 1. Conquer Afghanistan > 2. Conquer muslims he didn’t agree with > 3. Conquer Israel > 4. Conquer the west > 5. Conquer the world You left out: 1. Profit! ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-biggest-islamophobes/633548/25 "2012-09-04T17:22:42Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > You left out: > > 1. Profit! That comes way before step 6. After all, there is no god but Allah, and Mohammad is his profit. ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-biggest-islamophobes/633548/26 "2012-09-04T18:38:43Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Of course both of his examples are wrong. > > The biggest Islamophobes are the Jews who’ve been manipulating Christians and Muslims into slaughtering each other for centuries while the Jews wait in the shadows rubbing their hands and cackling with glee at the atrocities their minions in the form of the British monarchy, the CIA, the UN, the World Bank, the Masons, and, course, the Shriners, engage. You know too much, now we’ll have to do …something. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-biggest-islamophobes/633548/27 "2012-09-04T19:49:06Z")
> [@](#): > > Who are the biggest islamophobes? Islamophobes? To paraphrase the great sage, I dinna thin’ this word means what you thin’ it means, kimosabe. > [@](#): > > Often hear about islamophobia in the news, but only in the context of being in the west. Some guy with a NASCAR shirt looks at a muslim woman funny, so ever non muslim in the west needs to become more understanding and tolerant. I can’t remember the last time I heard about NASCAR shirted and checker panted Islamophobes or Islamophobia on the news, to be honest. I’m sure it happens, but your local news must be a lot different than mine if you are hearing about folks looking funny at ‘a muslim woman’ in your neck of the woods. > [@](#): > > However, for over 1400, muslims have been hating and killing each other for sectarian reasons. Sunnis and shiites each thing that their brand of Islam is the proper successor of the Prophet’s. They can however unify and put aside their hatred to to hate smaller sects even more, like Sufis and Ahmadis. See, here’s the problem…sectarian hatred is a lot different than fear. What’s most interesting here is the fact that you selectively capitalize different things based on some sort of random whim or dark, evil plan…I can’t tell which. I note that you didn’t mention the Pure blooded Space chipMunks, and their responsibility in the epic clash of NASCAR/Baseball Capped folks on the one side and funny looking ‘muslim’ women, or Shi’ia/Sunni adherents in the broader socioeconomic struggle of the proletariat. Interesting that omission… > [@](#): > > So I ask you, who are the biggest islaomophobes? At a guess, I’d say it would be a toss up between Europeans, Americans and possible (interestingly enough), the Japanese, with perhaps some Inuit in the running. That is, if we are limiting this purely to humans. If not, then I have my eye on the lizard peoplE. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-biggest-islamophobes/633548/28 "2012-09-04T22:12:34Z")
> [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#): > > I’m thinking that if your [fear of Muslims is more important than the first amendment](http://www.npr.org/2012/09/03/159378918/fears-about-shariah-law-take-hold-in-tennessee?utm_source=NPR&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=20120903), then you win some sort of prize. I covered that. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-biggest-islamophobes/633548/29 "2012-09-04T22:18:16Z")
Maybe Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, etc., living in muslim countries? ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-biggest-islamophobes/633548/30 "2012-09-05T01:20:18Z")
> [@stevenova](#): > > Often hear about islamophobia in the news, but only in the context of being in the west. Some guy with a NASCAR shirt looks at a muslim woman funny, so ever non muslim in the west needs to become more understanding and tolerant. > > However, for over 1400, muslims have been hating and killing each other for sectarian reasons. Sunnis and shiites each thing that their brand of Islam is the proper successor of the Prophet’s. They can however unify and put aside their hatred to to hate smaller sects even more, like Sufis and Ahmadis. > > So I ask you, who are the biggest islaomophobes? Some western guy who thinks negative thoughts about muslims, perhaps even puts bacon on a public park, or the daily hatred between different sects of islam for well over 1000 years? > > And why does one type get a lot more attention than the other? Nice try at moral relativity. Hate is hate. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-biggest-islamophobes/633548/31 "2012-09-05T01:21:20Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > That comes way before step 6. After all, there is no god but Allah, and Mohammad is his profit. Damn. Good one, LHoD. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-biggest-islamophobes/633548/32 "2012-09-05T01:40:31Z")
stevenova will play this “why aren’t the liberals tolerant” etc. game for months and months. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-biggest-islamophobes/633548.md?page=1)