# Who are the boards 'thoughtful conservatives'? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [May 24, 2007, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-boards-thoughtful-conservatives/405310 "2007-05-24T03:06:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-boards-thoughtful-conservatives/405310/1 "2007-05-24T03:06:54Z")
I’ve seen the term used several times…most recently in a pit thread talking about the ranting conservative types vs the, er, other type I guess (contrasting the thoughtful liberals vs the other type usually). Anyway, who do you dopers think are thoughtful conservatives…or conservatives you may disagree with but still respect or listen too? At one time or another I’ve seen such stellar conservatives (well, IMHO) as Bricker even come under attack. So…I’m curious. 'Dopers…name your favorite conservatives. 😛 -XT ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-boards-thoughtful-conservatives/405310/2 "2007-05-24T03:12:53Z")
Gosh, where did that phrase come from? I’d rather not see any “contrast and compare” here. As in the recent “What posters do you miss?”, Iif you can’t say something positive, don’t say anything. We have a forum for that. ---
**Author:** ![Valgard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Valgard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valgard)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-boards-thoughtful-conservatives/405310/3 "2007-05-24T03:13:10Z")
Bricker. I don’t always agree with his opinions but he presents them extremely well, backs up what he says and he seems to stick to his philosophical guns. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-boards-thoughtful-conservatives/405310/4 "2007-05-24T03:18:11Z")
First off, those I think of as conservative may not think of themselves that way. Even when tearing my hair out, I pay attention to and value posters who challenge my thinking in an articulate, interesting, and honest way. **Bricker** , **Martin Hyde** , **xtisme** , **John Mace** leap to mind. I hasten to add, there are others. These are just the ones currently at the top of my must-read list. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-boards-thoughtful-conservatives/405310/5 "2007-05-24T03:22:06Z")
Most of the ones that **Frank** mentioned, and **Airman Doors, USAF**. Also, though he’s a long-lost at this point, **Gobear** , when he was here. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-boards-thoughtful-conservatives/405310/6 "2007-05-24T06:57:32Z")
**Sam Stone** , **FRDE** ’s too new but getting there. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-boards-thoughtful-conservatives/405310/7 "2007-05-24T10:02:36Z")
Is **Sarahfeena** conservative? Add her to the list. ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-boards-thoughtful-conservatives/405310/8 "2007-05-24T12:28:12Z")
[QUOTE=Valgard] Bricker. I don’t always agree with his opinions but he presents them extremely well, backs up what he says and he seems to stick to his philosophical guns. [/QUOTE] **Bricker** is a guy??? Anyway, what **Frank** said. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-boards-thoughtful-conservatives/405310/9 "2007-05-24T13:06:12Z")
I would like to have tosses **Manhattan** ’s name into the ring, but he left a while back. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-boards-thoughtful-conservatives/405310/10 "2007-05-24T13:11:58Z")
I second Sam Stone and Airman Doors. While I don’t consider him a conservative myself, John Mace certainly is someone I find thoughtful and who’s posts I enjoy listening too (though for my part its because I usually agree with them 😛 ). I don’t know if he’s still here, and he can be sometimes a bit controversial, by Scylla is also a poster who sometimes has some very interesting things to say. -XT ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-boards-thoughtful-conservatives/405310/11 "2007-05-24T13:20:26Z")
Is Lemur866 considered a conservative? I have no idea myself. Assuming he is, he should be added to the list IMHO. Maybe I should have just done an OP on WHO are the conservatives…just so I would know myself. 😛 -XT ---
**Author:** ![Sal\_Ammoniac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@Sal\_Ammoniac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sal_Ammoniac)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-boards-thoughtful-conservatives/405310/12 "2007-05-24T16:41:06Z")
I’ll get shit for this back at the Leftwing Ranch, but **Mr. Moto** gets points in my book for speaking in an indoor voice and not losing his temper. I rarely agree with him on political stuff, but _vive la différence_, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-boards-thoughtful-conservatives/405310/13 "2007-05-24T16:56:34Z")
Most of the doper conservatives I admired have left the boards for various reasons, or have given no reasons. As often as not these days I tend to think of those who take the “conservative” position in SDMB debates/arguements as more contrarians than conservatives. Less interested in advancing conservatism as a worthwhile worldview than in opposing the liberals who post here. Too mired in current politics and the attack or defense of the flavor of the day instead of stepping back to the broader view. Maybe it’s a symptom of how polarizing the political climate is now, but I’d rather discuss things in the abstract instead of going back and forth over the scandal du jour. Enjoy, Steven ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-boards-thoughtful-conservatives/405310/14 "2007-05-24T17:00:18Z")
**Bricker John Mace Sam Stone Mr. Moto xtisme Airman Doors Sarahfeena** ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-boards-thoughtful-conservatives/405310/15 "2007-05-24T17:03:29Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] **Bricker John Mace Sam Stone Mr. Moto xtisme Airman Doors Sarahfeena** [/QUOTE] I agree with this list except for Sarahfeena. Only because I have had fewer interactions with Sarahfeena. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-boards-thoughtful-conservatives/405310/16 "2007-05-24T17:08:23Z")
[QUOTE=Sal Ammoniac] I’ll get shit for this back at the Leftwing Ranch, but Mr. Moto gets points in my book for speaking in an indoor voice and not losing his temper. I rarely agree with him on political stuff, but vive la différence, eh? [/QUOTE] I like Mr Moto as well…he has some very interesting posts and views sometimes, IMHO. [QUOTE=Quartz] Sam Stone, FRDE’s too new but getting there. [/QUOTE] Sam is definitely top shelf. But is FRDE really considered a conservative? I never thought of him even remotely that way…not even from a ‘SDMB libertarian “conservative”’ perspective. Or do you consider him a conservative on the European mold? I’m just curious. -XT ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-boards-thoughtful-conservatives/405310/17 "2007-05-24T20:13:51Z")
[QUOTE=mswas] I agree with this list except for Sarahfeena. Only because I have had fewer interactions with Sarahfeena. [/QUOTE] Aw…sorry I didn’t make your list. Hope with further interactions, I can convince you that I am thoughtful. Thanks to those who mentioned me here. 🙂 As far as being conservative, I guess I am (to answer \*\*Revenant Threshold’s \*\* question). Definitely fiscally conservative. Tend to be anti-government in general, especially the federal government. But socially I tend to be liberal (or, I guess libertarian would be more accurate, since I personally lead a pretty conservative lifestyle, but really don’t care much what other folks do). ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-boards-thoughtful-conservatives/405310/18 "2007-05-24T20:32:51Z")
[QUOTE=Sarahfeena] As far as being conservative, I guess I am (to answer \*\*Revenant Threshold’s \*\* question). Definitely fiscally conservative. Tend to be anti-government in general, especially the federal government. But socially I tend to be liberal (or, I guess libertarian would be more accurate, since I personally lead a pretty conservative lifestyle, but really don’t care much what other folks do). [/QUOTE] Me too, but I didn’t make anyone’s list. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-boards-thoughtful-conservatives/405310/19 "2007-05-24T20:35:31Z")
[QUOTE=Jodi] Me too, but I didn’t make anyone’s list. [/QUOTE] Truthfully? I usually forget that you’re conservative. Mostly because you tend not to wade in with elbows flying on the threads that pit the liberals and the conservatives at each other around here… ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-boards-thoughtful-conservatives/405310/20 "2007-05-24T20:49:59Z")
How close **FRDE** is to me politically is uncanny. He’s to the Right of me, but not by much, and I’m well aware that I’m to the Right of many on the Dope. Still, it’s sobering to think that Margaret Thatcher would likely have been a Democrat in America. (NB She’s already a democrat 🙂 ) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-boards-thoughtful-conservatives/405310.md?page=2)