# Who are the femme fatales in this image?

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**Created:** [November 23, 2023, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-femme-fatales-in-this-image/993565 "2023-11-23T01:26:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Oly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oly/32/8255_2.png) [@Oly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oly)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-femme-fatales-in-this-image/993565/1 "2023-11-23T01:26:40Z")

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On the left I think is Lauren Bacall, but who are the other two?

[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GzS51WWtEvg&pp=ygUPTGEgbm9pciBhbWJpZW50](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GzS51WWtEvg&pp=ygUPTGEgbm9pciBhbWJpZW50) /

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-femme-fatales-in-this-image/993565/2 "2023-11-23T01:32:39Z")

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From the comments,  
Images left to right: Lauren Bacall, Ann Savage, Ava Gardner.

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**Author:** ![Oly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oly/32/8255_2.png) [@Oly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oly)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-femme-fatales-in-this-image/993565/3 "2023-11-23T01:58:35Z")

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Wow! I glanced through the comments but saw nothing that made me smarter. Where did you find that?

And, thanks!

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-femme-fatales-in-this-image/993565/4 "2023-11-23T02:01:18Z")

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Sure that’s not Jane Greer on the right?

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-femme-fatales-in-this-image/993565/5 "2023-11-23T02:02:13Z")

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I did it the stupid way and scrolled down.  
Shoulda loaded all the comments and searched for Lauren!

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-femme-fatales-in-this-image/993565/6 "2023-11-23T02:04:21Z")

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> **[The Life of Film Star Ava Gardner in Photos](https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/g31018165/ava-gardner-life-in-photos/?slide=2)**
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> From her tumultuous marriages to her memorable on-screen appearances.

[![](https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/actress-ava-gardner-looking-demure-in-a-sleeveless-white-news-photo-1582222204.jpg) ](https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/actress-ava-gardner-looking-demure-in-a-sleeveless-white-news-photo-1582222204.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-femme-fatales-in-this-image/993565/7 "2023-11-23T02:05:51Z")

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You’re so right, a very young Ava

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-femme-fatales-in-this-image/993565/8 "2023-11-23T03:24:48Z")

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Just me being me: the correct term would be _femmes fatale_.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-femme-fatales-in-this-image/993565/9 "2023-11-23T03:29:51Z")

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That article mentions her marrying “Hollywood heartthrob” Mickey Rooney. It was a different time…

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**Author:** ![Kelby2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ebca7d/32.png) [@Kelby2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kelby2)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-femme-fatales-in-this-image/993565/10 "2023-11-23T17:51:15Z")

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I was just going to mention that…also described him as a “playboy”.

I’ve enjoyed many of Rooney’s on screen characters, but never saw him that way. Also don’t remember him being depicted that way…

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**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-femme-fatales-in-this-image/993565/11 "2023-11-23T18:25:20Z")

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At one time Mickey Rooney was famous for his many love affairs and marriages. That time was long ago.

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-femme-fatales-in-this-image/993565/12 "2023-11-23T19:10:37Z")

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Ann Savage looks a lot like Gloria Grahame in that picture. That’s who I thought it was at first.

[![](https://travsd.files.wordpress.com/2020/11/annex-grahame-gloria-cobweb-the_01.jpg) ](https://travsd.files.wordpress.com/2020/11/annex-grahame-gloria-cobweb-the_01.jpg)

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-femme-fatales-in-this-image/993565/13 "2023-11-23T19:24:03Z")

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Yeah, that’s a very young pic of Ava. Not styled the way I think of her “typical” look.

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**Author:** ![B.Serum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/b.serum/32/14266_2.png) [@B.Serum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/B.Serum)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-femme-fatales-in-this-image/993565/14 "2023-11-23T20:47:13Z")

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You mean circa [The Killers](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NW86-kOYAPE/Uu7n0b33rTI/AAAAAAAAV-8/3MUbNhUUSSk/s1600/Ava+Gardner+++The+Killers+black+dress.jpg)?

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-femme-fatales-in-this-image/993565/15 "2023-11-23T21:11:29Z")

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> [@Who are the femme fatales in this image?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-femme-fatales-in-this-image/993565/14):
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> You mean circa [The Killers](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NW86-kOYAPE/Uu7n0b33rTI/AAAAAAAAV-8/3MUbNhUUSSk/s1600/Ava+Gardner+++The+Killers+black+dress.jpg)?

Hubba

Hubba

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
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Perhaps you get more money for playing funny little guys.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-femme-fatales-in-this-image/993565/17 "2023-11-23T21:43:59Z")

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> [@B.Serum](#):
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> You mean circa [The Killers](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NW86-kOYAPE/Uu7n0b33rTI/AAAAAAAAV-8/3MUbNhUUSSk/s1600/Ava+Gardner+++The+Killers+black+dress.jpg)?

Yes, classic Ava Gardner.

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-femme-fatales-in-this-image/993565/18 "2023-11-24T02:52:40Z")

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Femmes fatales.

Gaudere’s Law strikes again.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-the-femme-fatales-in-this-image/993565/19 "2023-11-24T03:03:12Z")

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JRR Tolkien met an attractive younger American woman at an Oxford U. faculty party in the late Sixties. They hit it off and were having a very nice chat. A mutual friend came over, laughing, and said, “You don’t recognize each other, do you?”

It was Ava Gardner. She didn’t know him from his writings, and he didn’t know her from her movies.

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> [@suranyi](#):
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> At one time Mickey Rooney was famous for his many love affairs and marriages. That time was long ago.

There was a poem once in an issue of MAD Magazine that went something like

As I was on my way to St. Ives,  
I met a man with seven wives.  
I know this sounds absurd and looney,  
but the poor man was Mickey Rooney.

(Found on the web, I didn’t find an actual scan of the image.)
