# Who are your "Freebies" and who are your "MILF"'s

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 19, 2010, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-your-freebies-and-who-are-your-milf-s/554259 "2010-09-19T03:52:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![GoodOmens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@GoodOmens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GoodOmens)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-your-freebies-and-who-are-your-milf-s/554259/21 "2010-09-20T21:55:38Z")

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The MILF vote is easy: Diane Lane, every day and twice on Sunday.

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**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-your-freebies-and-who-are-your-milf-s/554259/22 "2010-09-20T23:11:48Z")

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Halle Berry  
Elizabeth Hurley

MILF (in the your-mom’s-age definition)  
Sophia Loren

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-your-freebies-and-who-are-your-milf-s/554259/23 "2010-09-20T23:30:02Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> > [@outlierrn](#):
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> > I always thought MILF was when your kids contemporaries want to fuck you, they’ve gotta be junior high at least.
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> It’s relative to your own age as well. The rule as I see it is she’s got to be old enough to be _your_ mom. Thus, a 40-year-old with a teenage kid doesn’t count unless you yourself are a teenage kid.

Exactly. It would be silly for me to call Jessica Alba a MILF when I’m old enough to be _her_ father.

Which I guess would make me a FILF. In more ways than one.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-your-freebies-and-who-are-your-milf-s/554259/24 "2010-09-20T23:56:37Z")

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> [@GoodOmens](#):
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> The MILF vote is easy: Diane Lane, every day and twice on Sunday.

Diane Lane’s only 45; at 38 I don’t think I can declare her a MILF. But I’d do her any day of the week that ends in Y.

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**Author:** ![snoopygal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b487fb/32.png) [@snoopygal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoopygal)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-your-freebies-and-who-are-your-milf-s/554259/25 "2010-09-21T15:28:33Z")

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What year is it?

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-your-freebies-and-who-are-your-milf-s/554259/26 "2010-09-21T15:58:03Z")

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> [@](#):
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> My “Freebies” (women I can sleep with and my girlfriend can’t get mad)  
> Michelle Kwan  
> Mariah Carey  
> Jarah Mariano  
> Eva Mendes  
> America Ferrera

I’m sorry – I don’t understand this concept at _all_. I’ve never heard “Freebies” in this context.  
Is it that your girlfriend can’t get mad at you for wanting to sleep with these women because she knows your chances of actually sleeping with any of them is zip?

Or is it that, were you to luck out unbelievably and actually sleep with Ms. Kwan or one of the others, she can’t get angry at you (for some reason that escapes me)?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-your-freebies-and-who-are-your-milf-s/554259/27 "2010-09-21T16:08:39Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> > [@](#):
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> > My “Freebies” (women I can sleep with and my girlfriend can’t get mad)  
> > Michelle Kwan  
> > Mariah Carey  
> > Jarah Mariano  
> > Eva Mendes  
> > America Ferrera
> 
> I’m sorry – I don’t understand this concept at _all_. I’ve never heard “Freebies” in this context.
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> Is it that your girlfriend can’t get mad at you for wanting to sleep with these women because she knows your chances of actually sleeping with any of them is zip?
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> Or is it that, were you to luck out unbelievably and actually sleep with Ms. Kwan or one of the others, she can’t get angry at you (for some reason that escapes me)?

That’s basically the idea. The idea is that if you ever had an opportunity to actually have sex with your favorite celebrity, it would be a virtual fantasy anyway so it wouldn’t “count”. It became popular after there was a _Friends_ episode about the concept.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-your-freebies-and-who-are-your-milf-s/554259/28 "2010-09-21T16:50:04Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> It became popular after there was a _Friends_ episode about the concept.

**Chandler:** Well, we have a deal where we each get to pick five different celebrities that we can sleep with, and the other one can’t get mad.  
**Ross:** Ah, the heart of every healthy relationship: Honesty, respect, and sex with celebrities.  
**Monica:** So, Chandler… who’s on your list?  
**Chandler:** Uh, Kim Basinger, Cindy Crawford, Halle Berry, Yasmine Bleeth, and, ah, Jessica Rabbit.  
**Rachel:** Now, you do realize that she’s a cartoon… and way out of your league?  
**Chandler:** I know, I know, I just always wondered if I could get her eyes to pop out of her head.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-your-freebies-and-who-are-your-milf-s/554259/29 "2010-09-21T16:57:57Z")

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We get three:

Salma Hayak  
Isla Fischer  
Scarlett Johansen

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-your-freebies-and-who-are-your-milf-s/554259/30 "2010-09-21T18:00:07Z")

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I don’t buy that a MILF’s status is based off of your own age. MILFs are ladies in their late 30s and beyond who have a child. When I’m eighty, I could and will lust after MILFs that are 38 - not 98. That’s ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![czarcaztic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ec9cab/32.png) [@czarcaztic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/czarcaztic)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-your-freebies-and-who-are-your-milf-s/554259/31 "2010-09-21T18:40:41Z")

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> [@drastic\_quench](#):
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> I don’t buy that a MILF’s status is based off of your own age. MILFs are ladies in their late 30s and beyond who have a child. When I’m eighty, I could and will lust after MILFs that are 38 - not 98. That’s ridiculous.

This^^^^

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-your-freebies-and-who-are-your-milf-s/554259/32 "2010-09-21T18:44:55Z")

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At the very least, I think that a MILF has to be old enough to be the mother of someone who could reasonably be sexually attracted to them. So probably late 30s at the youngest, more likely 40something.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-your-freebies-and-who-are-your-milf-s/554259/33 "2010-09-21T18:59:11Z")

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> [@drastic\_quench](#):
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> I don’t buy that a MILF’s status is based off of your own age. MILFs are ladies in their late 30s and beyond who have a child. When I’m eighty, I could and will lust after MILFs that are 38 - not 98. That’s ridiculous.

Oh, I’ll be lusting when I’m 80 too, don’t get me wrong. It’s just that I’ll be more inclined to call the 38-year-old a “young mother” rather than a “MILF.” 😉

I look at the whole “MILF” concept as sort of a high school thing, and once you become an adult yourself, that ship has pretty much sailed.

It’s just semantics, though, really…

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-your-freebies-and-who-are-your-milf-s/554259/34 "2010-09-21T22:23:08Z")

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> [@czarcaztic](#):
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> > [@drastic\_quench](#):
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> > I don’t buy that a MILF’s status is based off of your own age. MILFs are ladies in their late 30s and beyond who have a child. When I’m eighty, I could and will lust after MILFs that are 38 - not 98. That’s ridiculous.
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> This^^^^

Of course it’s ridiculous. That’s why you don’t hear eighty year old men talking about MILFs. As Wheelz wrote, it’s usually young men who talk about MILFs.

But the idea of a MILF not being age contextual is also ridiculous. Unless you have some fetish, there’s no difference in being attracted to a 38 year old woman who has a kid and a 38 year old woman who doesn’t. Saying one’s a MILF and one isn’t is silly.

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-your-freebies-and-who-are-your-milf-s/554259/35 "2010-09-21T23:04:26Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Of course it’s ridiculous. That’s why you don’t hear eighty year old men talking about MILFs. As Wheelz wrote, it’s usually young men who talk about MILFs.

You will (give me 50 years). It’s a very recent term. Most people were introduced to it in the first American Pie flick.

> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> But the idea of a MILF not being age contextual is also ridiculous. Unless you have some fetish, there’s no difference in being attracted to a 38 year old woman who has a kid and a 38 year old woman who doesn’t. Saying one’s a MILF and one isn’t is silly.

There’s a huge difference! You don’t think having kids profoundly affects a woman mentally and physically? Ignoring his comments on girls, I like Louis CK’s standard for a [woman](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdKlB0XqB-w)(read MILF).

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**Author:** ![anson2995](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c77e96/32.png) [@anson2995](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anson2995)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-your-freebies-and-who-are-your-milf-s/554259/36 "2010-09-21T23:42:55Z")

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I must be old… I don’t know who half of the people on the OP’s list are.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-your-freebies-and-who-are-your-milf-s/554259/37 "2010-09-22T00:03:04Z")

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> [@anson2995](#):
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> I must be old… I don’t know who half of the people on the OP’s list are.

“Freebies”  
1.Athlete  
2.Singer  
3.Model  
4.Actress  
5.Actress

“MILFs”  
1.Actress  
[2.TV](http://2.TV) Hostess  
3.Fashion Designer/Reality TV star  
4.Actress

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**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-your-freebies-and-who-are-your-milf-s/554259/38 "2010-09-22T01:00:27Z")

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My wife and I share a freebie: Jillian Michaels

(I’ll be in my bunk)

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**Author:** ![akrako1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c77e96/32.png) [@akrako1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/akrako1)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-your-freebies-and-who-are-your-milf-s/554259/39 "2010-09-22T21:20:46Z")

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“Freebies”  
Jessica Alba (of course)  
Mila Kunis  
Jessica Biel  
Scarlett Johannsen  
Megan Fox

“Milfs”  
Mary Louis-Parker (Rawr!)

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-are-your-freebies-and-who-are-your-milf-s/554259/40 "2010-09-22T22:42:06Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> > [@anson2995](#):
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> > I must be old… I don’t know who half of the people on the OP’s list are.
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> “Freebies”  
> 1.Athlete  
> 2.Singer  
> 3.Model  
> 4.Actress  
> 5.Actress
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> “MILFs”  
> 1.Actress  
> [2.TV](http://2.TV) Hostess  
> 3.Fashion Designer/Reality TV star  
> 4.Fitness Guru  
> 5.Actress

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