# Who can tell me about Derek Chauvin’s hand?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-can-tell-me-about-derek-chauvin-s-hand/940455>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 21, 2021, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-can-tell-me-about-derek-chauvin-s-hand/940455 "2021-04-21T14:04:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-can-tell-me-about-derek-chauvin-s-hand/940455/21 "2021-04-22T16:19:44Z")

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They look quite practical, while still giving off that macho, don’t fuck with me attitude. Perfect for cops. Nitrile gloves don’t project the right aura of control.

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**Author:** ![Manlob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Manlob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manlob)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-can-tell-me-about-derek-chauvin-s-hand/940455/22 "2021-04-23T13:49:55Z")

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Last night one of the alternate jurors who had sat through the entire three weeks of testimony was interviewed on the news. She still thought Chauvin had his hand in his pocket. She was just an alternate juror, but it was kind of disturbing to learn she was paying so little attention to the trial.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-can-tell-me-about-derek-chauvin-s-hand/940455/23 "2021-04-23T15:55:15Z")

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> [@phs3](#):
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> They always strike me as overly agressive/macho, but I have friends who say that’s nonsense.

Considering how long it took to get wearing proper protective equipment to be accepted as normal in the workplace, by both workers and employers, I’m not going to quibble about them wanting it to “look cool”, if that’s what it takes to get them to wear it.

I grew up with a mother who was an operating room nurse, who occasionally regaled us with stories of people coming in to the hospital after getting fucked up on the job. Wearing some armor when needed isn’t a problem.

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**Author:** ![Ponderoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponderoid/32/19221_2.png) [@Ponderoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponderoid)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-can-tell-me-about-derek-chauvin-s-hand/940455/24 "2021-04-23T16:14:50Z")

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> [@Manlob](#):
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> She still thought Chauvin had his hand in his pocket. She was just an alternate juror, but it was kind of disturbing to learn she was paying so little attention to the trial.

Was it actually brought up during the trial? We know for sure because we’ve seen sites that explain it, but I think jurors would have been instructed not to look at those things?

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**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-can-tell-me-about-derek-chauvin-s-hand/940455/26 "2021-04-23T17:10:04Z")

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> [@phs3](#):
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> ? They always strike me as overly agressive/macho, but I have friends who say that’s nonsense.

When I was in the Army, I worked some law enforcement-adjacent details. I wore tactical gloves. It wasn’t to look cool. It was to protect my hands.

> [@silenus](#):
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> They look quite practical, while still giving off that macho, don’t fuck with me attitude. Perfect for cops. Nitrile gloves don’t project the right aura of control.

Nitrile gloves also don’t give you any protection against sharps, and abrasive surfaces will shred them, and they rip distressingly easily under field conditions. They’re great in a lab or other controlled environment to protect against accidental splashes, which is what they were designed for. In the field, not so much.

> [@Horatius](#):
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> Considering how long it took to get wearing proper protective equipment to be accepted as normal in the workplace, by both workers and employers, I’m not going to quibble about them wanting it to “look cool”, if that’s what it takes to get them to wear it.
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> I grew up with a mother who was an operating room nurse, who occasionally regaled us with stories of people coming in to the hospital after getting fucked up on the job. Wearing some armor when needed isn’t a problem.

Yes.

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**Author:** ![Manlob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Manlob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manlob)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-can-tell-me-about-derek-chauvin-s-hand/940455/27 "2021-04-23T19:01:32Z")

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> [@Ponderoid](#):
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> Was it actually brought up during the trial? We know for sure because we’ve seen sites that explain it, but I think jurors would have been instructed not to look at those things?

I don’t recall anyone in the trial mentioning the hand looking like it was in his pocket in that photograph. It was mentioned that he put the gloves on when arriving at the scene. From some of the body worn video that was shown, it can be seen that his gloved hand is resting on his upper thigh at times and lifted up at others. One of the lawyers implied Chauvin casually picked a pebble from the tire while holding down Floyd, but it was the ungloved hand of one of the other officers that did that.

I just thought it was interesting the photo that was widely publicized before the trial was so powerful that a juror was still convinced Chauvin’s hand was in his pocket rather than go by what was presented at the trial.

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**Author:** ![phs3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8491ac/32.png) [@phs3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phs3)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-can-tell-me-about-derek-chauvin-s-hand/940455/28 "2021-04-23T19:24:13Z")

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OK, fair enough. The case in question was a cop who was being abusive, so I was taking the gloves as a sign of hyperaggressiveness, but that’s probably not supported by the evidence.

Still, they should also come in pink 🙂

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**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-can-tell-me-about-derek-chauvin-s-hand/940455/29 "2021-04-23T19:34:37Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Nitrile gloves don’t project the right aura of control.

Except for these guys:  
[![](https://irishcinephile.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/tv-flashback-firefly-recurring-characters-hands-of-blue-played-by-dennis-cockrum-and-jeff-ricketts1.jpg) ](https://irishcinephile.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/tv-flashback-firefly-recurring-characters-hands-of-blue-played-by-dennis-cockrum-and-jeff-ricketts1.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-can-tell-me-about-derek-chauvin-s-hand/940455/30 "2021-04-23T22:44:13Z")

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> [@phs3](#):
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> Still, they should also come in pink

[They do](https://www.amazon.com/Nitrile-Exam-Powder-Free-Gloves-disposable/dp/B075F42N1K/ref=sr_1_5?crid=5NUL7TBWM7I5&dchild=1&keywords=pink+nitrile+gloves&qid=1619217829&sprefix=pink+nitr%2Caps%2C187&sr=8-5), and I see EMTs wearing all different colors.

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**Author:** ![phs3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8491ac/32.png) [@phs3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phs3)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-can-tell-me-about-derek-chauvin-s-hand/940455/31 "2021-04-24T00:35:21Z")

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Not those. Tactical gloves.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-can-tell-me-about-derek-chauvin-s-hand/940455/32 "2021-04-24T00:55:46Z")

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**Author:** ![phs3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8491ac/32.png) [@phs3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phs3)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-can-tell-me-about-derek-chauvin-s-hand/940455/33 "2021-04-24T01:15:24Z")

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Cool. Now show me a male cop wearing them… 🙂

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-can-tell-me-about-derek-chauvin-s-hand/940455/34 "2021-04-24T01:32:00Z")

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[![](https://missiontexas.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/IMG_0463-1.jpg) ](https://missiontexas.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/IMG_0463-1.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-can-tell-me-about-derek-chauvin-s-hand/940455/35 "2021-04-24T02:57:38Z")

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When I saw the video, I was ready to swear that twisted bastard was rubbing one out with his hand in his pocket. That has been debunked, Thank God! That thought was really sickening.

Just another case of me being so wrong, to make a right, I gotta go up a block and make three lefts. I’m used to it.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-can-tell-me-about-derek-chauvin-s-hand/940455/36 "2021-04-24T04:08:03Z")

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> [@phs3](#):
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> Cool. Now show me a male cop wearing them… 🙂

Get a room!

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-can-tell-me-about-derek-chauvin-s-hand/940455/37 "2021-04-24T05:51:43Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Get a room!

Hah!!! I’ll bet is was _you_ all those years ago!!!

_To the Lumberyard!_

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