# Who cares to debate the events of 9/11/2001 based upon the laws of physics? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 14, 2017, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-cares-to-debate-the-events-of-9-11-2001-based-upon-the-laws-of-physics/798861 "2017-10-14T21:40:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 54
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-cares-to-debate-the-events-of-9-11-2001-based-upon-the-laws-of-physics/798861/1061 "2017-10-17T17:28:51Z")
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-cares-to-debate-the-events-of-9-11-2001-based-upon-the-laws-of-physics/798861/1062 "2017-10-17T17:29:28Z")
I am with Jay Jay considering [gravity](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jODyhZVbTM&t=42s) is a [myth](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU-eoPUTTvA). ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-cares-to-debate-the-events-of-9-11-2001-based-upon-the-laws-of-physics/798861/1063 "2017-10-17T17:34:27Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > In conjunction with the Trilateral Commission, the Elders of Zion, Skull & Bones, the Freemasons and the Rothschilds, with technical assistance from the CIA, Interpol and ФСБ. Don’t forget the Rand Corporation and the reverse vampires. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-cares-to-debate-the-events-of-9-11-2001-based-upon-the-laws-of-physics/798861/1064 "2017-10-17T17:38:24Z")
> [@CurtC](#): > > Don’t forget the Rand Corporation and the reverse vampires. I’m supposed to suck their blood? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-cares-to-debate-the-events-of-9-11-2001-based-upon-the-laws-of-physics/798861/1065 "2017-10-17T17:45:36Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I’m supposed to suck their blood? No, they give free transfusions. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-cares-to-debate-the-events-of-9-11-2001-based-upon-the-laws-of-physics/798861/1066 "2017-10-17T17:53:23Z")
> [@Jay\_Jay](#): > > The cell phone calls were ALL bogus, you don’t make cell phone calls from an airliner (that is with state of the art 2001 phones, etc … ). Bullshit. If it was impossible to make cellphone calls from airplanes, they wouldn’t have to be banned, now would they? I’ve read several articles in IEEE publications about interference, and none said calls were impossible. Were all of the family members of the passengers lying? Why would they do so? Actors? And what happened to the passengers - including the person who was known at my work before 9/11? ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-cares-to-debate-the-events-of-9-11-2001-based-upon-the-laws-of-physics/798861/1067 "2017-10-17T17:54:18Z")
> [@Jay\_Jay](#): > > The big bamboozle is in full effect here and people refuse to even consider alternatives to the official lie on the subject. oops! You are so wrong on this point. You’re not the first 911 truther to show up here, you know. Far from it, you’re more like the eleventy-millionth. In actuality, people on this board HAVE considered all the alternatives, years ago, and multiple times since, and came to the conclusion that 911 truthers have no clue what they’re talking about and their hypotheses are full of crap, not science. Multiple people _in this thread_ have exposed all your misconceptions and provided actual evidence of how physics and the WTC building collapses worked, and you have refused to listen or have dismissed it as fake. There’s no talking to you. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-cares-to-debate-the-events-of-9-11-2001-based-upon-the-laws-of-physics/798861/1068 "2017-10-17T17:54:55Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > No, they give free transfusions. That’s what they _want_ you to think! You think it’s free, then the monthly credit card charges start. Damn it, sheeple - it’s all connected! Wake up! ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-cares-to-debate-the-events-of-9-11-2001-based-upon-the-laws-of-physics/798861/1069 "2017-10-17T17:58:45Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > Gotta love how all these videos were faked using 2001 computer technology. Have you \*looked \*at the state of the art in computer graphics in 2001? I am embarassed by the CG scenes Lucas added to the original trilogy when he rereleased it and tha is in a sci-fi setting. yet in 17 years of vastly improving computer technology the only people who can find errors in the videos are the cranks who use overly compressed vidoe files (the same thing that [David Ike lizard spotters use to ‘find’ lizard people](https://youtu.be/flBfxNTUIns)) and play with the levels until they see something that isn’t really there. Not to mention that the video came out almost immediately after the events. Kind of hard to do it before (how would you match the sky and the cloud cover.) I was working in the server business in 2001 and there is no way anyone had a server farm big enough to generate all that video so quickly - plus as you note it has features not easy to create back then. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-cares-to-debate-the-events-of-9-11-2001-based-upon-the-laws-of-physics/798861/1070 "2017-10-17T17:59:37Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > You are so wrong on this point. You’re not the first 911 truther to show up here, you know. Far from it, you’re more like the eleventy-millionth. > > In actuality, people on this board HAVE considered all the alternatives, years ago, and multiple times since, and came to the conclusion that 911 truthers have no clue what they’re talking about and their hypotheses are full of crap, not science. Multiple people _in this thread_ have exposed all your misconceptions and provided actual evidence of how physics and the WTC building collapses worked, and you have refused to listen or have dismissed it as fake. **There’s no talking to you.** And yet we do. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-cares-to-debate-the-events-of-9-11-2001-based-upon-the-laws-of-physics/798861/1071 "2017-10-17T18:08:42Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > And yet we do. 😃 Not no more! Now I’m talking to _you_. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-cares-to-debate-the-events-of-9-11-2001-based-upon-the-laws-of-physics/798861/1072 "2017-10-17T18:22:01Z")
A while ago, I read one of those big secrets books, full of articles about how everyone is lying to us. Not completely bogus, but somewhat. The book was published in 2000. The last long article in it was how Osama bin Laden was not a bad guy at all, and how the first WTC bombing was not really done by him. Whoops. Perhaps some of the Truther nuttery is not being able to admit they were wrong. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-cares-to-debate-the-events-of-9-11-2001-based-upon-the-laws-of-physics/798861/1073 "2017-10-17T18:27:31Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > No, they give free transfusions. I don’t know how many times we’ve gone over this, but, again, there IS no free lunch… ---
**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-cares-to-debate-the-events-of-9-11-2001-based-upon-the-laws-of-physics/798861/1074 "2017-10-17T18:38:55Z")
> [@Jay\_Jay](#): > > rather than telling me that I’m “torturing” science > please explain what I got wrong about this… Asking the same question yet again, this time with no question mark. Brilliant bit of subterfuge! ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-cares-to-debate-the-events-of-9-11-2001-based-upon-the-laws-of-physics/798861/1075 "2017-10-17T18:43:52Z")
> [@TreacherousCretin](#): > > Asking the same question yet again, this time with no question mark. Brilliant bit of subterfuge! It would actually be easier to list all the things Jay Jay got right since it’s a very short list. In fact…um…well, there might be no list at all, come to think of it… ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-cares-to-debate-the-events-of-9-11-2001-based-upon-the-laws-of-physics/798861/1076 "2017-10-17T18:47:06Z")
> [@XT](#): > > It would actually be easier to list all the things Jay Jay got right since it’s a very short list. In fact…um…well, there might be no list at all, come to think of it… He’s accepted that something happened on Sept. 11, 2001 so that’s one item. He knows there’s something called “physics”. That’s two. He accepts that something called The World trade Center existed. That’s three. Everyone, join in! ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-cares-to-debate-the-events-of-9-11-2001-based-upon-the-laws-of-physics/798861/1077 "2017-10-17T19:07:22Z")
Even the conservative Dopers who’ve been bashed here for their own theories for years don’t agree with JJ. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-cares-to-debate-the-events-of-9-11-2001-based-upon-the-laws-of-physics/798861/1078 "2017-10-17T19:10:44Z")
> [@XT](#): > > I don’t know how many times we’ve gone over this, but, again, there IS no free lunch… Yes there is in the office refrigerator as long as I go on my lunch break before anyone else. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-cares-to-debate-the-events-of-9-11-2001-based-upon-the-laws-of-physics/798861/1079 "2017-10-17T19:13:10Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > He’s accepted that something happened on Sept. 11, 2001 so that’s one item. > He knows there’s something called “physics”. That’s two. > He accepts that something called The World trade Center existed. That’s three. > Everyone, join in! He’s accepted that things fall down in the presence of gravity. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-cares-to-debate-the-events-of-9-11-2001-based-upon-the-laws-of-physics/798861/1080 "2017-10-17T19:13:48Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > My guess would have been The Spanish Inquisition. > [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition. Actually, as Stephen Fry at QI reported, “EVERYBODY expected the Spanish Inquisition - they were legally obliged to give 30 days notice”… [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o85NK1EEnMY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o85NK1EEnMY)🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-cares-to-debate-the-events-of-9-11-2001-based-upon-the-laws-of-physics/798861.md?page=53) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-cares-to-debate-the-events-of-9-11-2001-based-upon-the-laws-of-physics/798861.md?page=55)