I can say for certain that airliners were not used as weapons
Please note that it is logically possible to know that a trick has been done
without having to explain how the trick was done.
Someone convinced you there was a trick. What convinced you?
Why was the trick done and who is responsible for this mass illusion?
“So you expect an instant breakup of the entire plane”
instantly, no, however given aprox 50 milliseconds to accomplish the task,
the airliner would be so seriously damaged as to deposit most of its mass down the side of the building falling to street level.
By the way, that would violate the laws of physics you so treasure.
What evidence is there that this is the case. Note that your personal incredulity is not evidence.
Please stop using the word ‘logic’ in your posts. You are employing none of it.
you seem to be stuck on speculation, you don’t need to speculate here
the proof positive that there is an offence ( that is something to bust "fearless leader "and all his minions for ) that we can take the ball and run with it to demand justice.
all of the clamoring for “who did it” and “how was it done” only serves to increase the noise level and produces nothing.
You are willing to go into all these minute details involving ghod knows how much research to show us what didn’t happen, but when it comes to what supposedly did happen we are supposed to buy that you have no opinions on the matter? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
That’s not important now. What’s important is, who pulled off this masterful illusion and why?
not my problem if you do not see the logic here
it is possible to see a trick done, and KNOW that it was a trick
without having to explain HOW it was done.
if you do not see logic here, like I said, not my problem.
Um, no. Ridiculous in fact. And this is the crux of most of the issue between reality and 9/11 Truthers…you have zero grasp of physics.
Let me take a different tack, however. You obviously know nothing about physics. But you have to concede that in the entire world, someone other than folks in the conspiracy knows something about it, yet? That someone could do basic calculations and understand something about the forces involved…yes? So, assuming you don’t think that physics is only allowed to people involved in your conspiracy theory, surely you can see that someone who knew what they were talking about would have stumbled onto this seeming obvious flaw…right? Literally billions of people have had access to the basic facts (weight of the plane, speed at impact, rough composition of the building, etc), and of those billions literally 10’s of millions of them have at least basic physics and can do a rough calculation and find out that the plane would have hit the building and stopped, dumping the passengers and luggage out like a cartoon. Yet aside from some loopy Truther types, none of those millions have come forth with their calculations to demonstrate this. Why is that do you suppose?
Right, of course you’re right. Now… which specific fearless leader and minions are we busting here?
50 milliseconds of the plane still moving at 500+ mph. even if the plane were instantly converted into tiny segements 1" across it would still be a huge mass moving at over 500mpg.
Why? What calculations have you done to show this is the case? Why would a mass moving at such a high speed striking that the fairly flimsy wall of the tower stop it cold?
How widespread is this conspiracy? Name names!
Please do consider the logic here,
it is possible to KNOW that airliners were not used as weapons.
with that information and that information alone
if the AMERICAN public wanted to launch action against
Bush, Obama, Trump (et all) for being complicit in a cover-up
this would be sufficient to get the case into court and I am convinced that
in any court with a Judge not already sold out, we could win a decisive victory.
I’d like to thank LSLGuy for bring this thread to my attention … I’m sure after reading my comments, everybody will be thanking him …
There was a conspiracy … and everyone is a co-conspirator …
The fact remains, fifteen of the nineteen hijackers on 9/11/01 were Saudi citizens, most likely bankrolled by other Saudi citizens … no one here or anyplace else are willing to admit that Saudi Arabia had more than just a hand in the attack … for cheap gasoline, it’s perfectly fine letting the Saudi royal family lop the heads off of wimin, right? … but God forbid the United States should stop playing patty-cake with the second most brutal and oppressive regime in the whole wide world … to the tune of 108 billion dollars in sales of advance weapons systems …
I’m not saying there’s financial or military connections between Saudi Arabia and ISIS … but there’s no argument there’s clear and convincing ideological relationship between the two … just how many members of that royal family agree with ISIS’ destruction of the “infidels” …
Conspiracy Theories will abound forevermore … we’ve at least 5% inconsistencies in the matter, more than enough for sustained breeding …
In those 50 milliseconds, the plane will travel 4 ft. You expect the entire plane to break up completely in that distance?
Where did you get 50 milliseconds?
Do you know what a millisecond is?
ETA: 40ft. Misplaced a decimal. My goof.
This is supposedly a thread based on physics, but people keep throwing out random physics equations with (apparently) no idea how to apply them.
In the equation F = ma, the a stands for acceleration. Acceleration is not the same thing as speed or velocity. Nevertheless, two people quoted above have erroneously used the speed of the plane in this equation instead of acceleration.
Magiver, you’re apparently (and erroneously) trying to use Newton’s 2nd Law (which calculates force, not energy) to calculate the relative kinetic energies (KE) of two airplane collisions. Force is not the same thing as energy (or kinetic energy).
The equation to calculate kinetic energy (KE) is KE = 0.5mv[sup]2[/sup].
Using Magiver’s figures above, I’m calculating that the plane that hit the WTC had more than 17 times the kinetic energy of the B-25 that hit the Empire State Building.
Not logical
Jim
Not logical at all …
and exactly how was that energy distributed?
how was it focused so as to ONLY affect the point where the airliner contacted the wall?
have you considered EQUAL & OPPOSITE REACTION?